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#161007 - 11/23/03 08:14 AM A/B Comparison up
trtjazz Offline
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So if you're interested in hearing the difference, the comparison is up. I will not say which is which so as not to bias the comparison until after we've had a chance to liten and perhaps post some comments.

Here's what I will say about the test:
Both recordings were done as they came off the Tyros, no effects or EQ added to either. They were then rendered into a single mp3 file to make sure the compression was equal for both at 128kbps.
http://imjazzed.homestead.com/currentwork.html

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts to see if they compare with my own.
Terry

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#161008 - 11/23/03 08:50 AM Re: A/B Comparison up
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Hey Terry,

Thanks for the demo...Something to do on a Sunday other than shovel snow (we're gettin' pounded with our first snow storm).

It's interesting because the more I listen, the more differences I hear. But to sum it up, sample A has a much wider soundstage and more bass, sample B has a closer, more focused soundstage, less bass, and more treble emphasis. Knowing that you left the EQ alone at the source shows the difference in electronic circuitry between the two recording devices. But I wasn't ready for the differences in soundstage. It's almost as if the phasing is being played with (not by you...the electronics).

Like I said, very interesting demo.

mike

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#161009 - 11/23/03 08:52 AM Re: A/B Comparison up
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Terry. Listening on high quality studio monitors. The instruments are panned differently.
A. Wide Stereo spread but leaves hole in the middle of the mix.
B. Good central image but still with L & R information.
Frequency response was equally the same for both A & B in my listening tests.

I prefer B.
Do I win the prize...Ha!!!!

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[This message has been edited by Graham UK (edited 11-23-2003).]

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#161010 - 11/23/03 09:23 AM Re: A/B Comparison up
Roel Offline
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Registered: 06/24/99
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Hi Terry,

I share Graham's results. The first sound image seems to have the 'spatial-effect'that Technics once implemented in the KN3000 (?)
Expand stereo-effect.

The instruments switched panning and B sounds much better/more direct.

During the first 0.599 seconds I hear noise that could have been eliminated Terry....

Roel

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#161011 - 11/23/03 09:46 AM Re: A/B Comparison up
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Just for the record L out of Tyros was panned hard left R panned hard right for both recordings.

Roel about the noise.....you should have heard how much there was before I cut it down. 0.599....only you Roel.
Terry

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#161012 - 11/23/03 09:51 AM Re: A/B Comparison up
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Quote:
Originally posted by trtjazz:

Roel about the noise.....you should have heard how much there was before I cut it down. 0.599....only you Roel.
Terry



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#161013 - 11/23/03 09:59 AM Re: A/B Comparison up
STAM Offline
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Registered: 10/27/01
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Loc: Brussels, BELGIUM
Hi Terry,
interesting test.

I prefer the second recording. The sound is more "open". It is difficult to define and maybe a personal taste.
Other than that I have not good monitors so for the global quality I don't hear a difference.

Thank you

STAM

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#161014 - 11/23/03 10:49 AM Re: A/B Comparison up
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
Hi Terrry!

Thanks for recording & posting the comparison demo. I agree with the comments made by the above others in my preference for the 2nd version. I found it 'surprising' to discover that BOTH of the takes were recorded straight out of the Tyros with no post eq/efx added on later.

I'm really anxious now for you to reveal which recording take was made on your Yammy AW4416(?) and which one was made using Sonar. - Scott
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#161015 - 11/23/03 10:59 AM Re: A/B Comparison up
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Hi Terry,

I prefer also the second ...
Greetings,
JJ

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#161016 - 11/23/03 12:49 PM Re: A/B Comparison up
zalmi Offline
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Loc: London, UK
To me, 'A' appears to be much more centered and balanced, compared to 'B', which sounds as though it's been panned more left.

Although B sounds brighter, I found A to have a more balanced, warmer, and in general pleasing sound.
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