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#434590 - 07/18/17 05:13 AM Cha Cha Tyros 5
Dnj Offline
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#434610 - 07/18/17 10:09 AM Re: Cha Cha Tyros 5 [Re: Dnj]
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If anyone decided to throw a “boring competition” this player would win hands down. When I saw the video was 6 minutes I expected to hear some great improvising like I heard in the “Quizas, quizas, quizas video. All I heard was the same chordal riffs over and over again and too much with the “”stapping“ at the keyboard. There were no “fill’s” in the song even. After 3 minutes that style got on my nerves. The whole thing is a MIDI file if I’m correct.

His interpretation of the tune is way too busy. Most people know this song and they have a pretty good idea of the words. One of the best things I learned from another musician, many years ago, was “learn the words of a song first before you learn the song..” Reason being folks are remembering the words and reciting them in their minds. The words need to match the melody line of the song they’re listening to. The listener goes into temporary confusion if that is not happening. The professional way of doing songs like this is to play the melody straight the first time around so people get the feel of it and then go off into the world of improvisation. Not sure if I said that right but you get my drift.

The positive side of the video is……..that’s the kind of cha-cha style I’m looking for. Just not six minutes and 27 seconds of it without a break!

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#434612 - 07/18/17 10:40 AM Re: Cha Cha Tyros 5 [Re: Mark79100]
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Originally Posted By Mark79100

The positive side of the video is……..that’s the kind of cha-cha style I’m looking for. Just not six minutes and 27 seconds of it without a break!


I don't admire any arranger player who doesn't use his "fill" options. That's what makes YOU own the song. How you manipulate the breaks. Almost anyone can play a tune fairly well if you get amnesia and forget there's a "fill" button there for a reason. The good players are the one who can work perfectly timed "fills" into what they're playing. Another way of saying: it's easy enough to play a tune if that's all you're thinking of (playing the tune). The players who rise to the top are the ones who are simultaneously thinking how to work the "fills" into what they're playing. That means "musical multi-tasking which ain't easy.

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#434617 - 07/18/17 11:59 AM Re: Cha Cha Tyros 5 [Re: Mark79100]
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Originally Posted By Mark79100

The whole thing is a MIDI file if I’m correct.


I'm fairly certain it's a Yamaha style. I have the same style that I purchased for my psr 950.
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#434620 - 07/18/17 12:51 PM Re: Cha Cha Tyros 5 [Re: Mark79100]
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Originally Posted By Mark79100
Originally Posted By Mark79100

The positive side of the video is……..that’s the kind of cha-cha style I’m looking for. Just not six minutes and 27 seconds of it without a break!


I don't admire any arranger player who doesn't use his "fill" options. That's what makes YOU own the song. How you manipulate the breaks. Almost anyone can play a tune fairly well if you get amnesia and forget there's a "fill" button there for a reason. The good players are the one who can work perfectly timed "fills" into what they're playing. Another way of saying: it's easy enough to play a tune if that's all you're thinking of (playing the tune). The players who rise to the top are the ones who are simultaneously thinking how to work the "fills" into what they're playing. That means "musical multi-tasking which ain't easy.


I'll agree,...what my pet peeves are is an arranger kb player who only uses Piano 99% of the time as his lead voice..
and has bad timing..


Edited by Dnj (07/18/17 01:01 PM)

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#434622 - 07/18/17 01:15 PM Re: Cha Cha Tyros 5 [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
I'll agree,...what my pet peeves are is an arranger kb player who only uses Piano 99% of the time as his lead voice..
and has bad timing..


OK, so why did you post it, then? confused

Also, I was waiting for him to play, and or sing, Todo Todo Todo, which never happened. This would be a great song for an arranger keyboard.



Gary cool


Edited by travlin'easy (07/18/17 01:18 PM)
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#434625 - 07/18/17 01:21 PM Re: Cha Cha Tyros 5 [Re: Dnj]
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Gary I posted it for discussion.....we can all learn good & bad technics by watching others...

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#434626 - 07/18/17 01:23 PM Re: Cha Cha Tyros 5 [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By travlin'easy


OK, so why did you post it, then? confused



Because he's....Donny. Does he need a reason? He has a posting addition and withdrawal would kill him smile smile.

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#434627 - 07/18/17 01:29 PM Re: Cha Cha Tyros 5 [Re: cgiles]
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Tyros SWAY.........



Edited by Dnj (07/18/17 01:31 PM)

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#434628 - 07/18/17 02:01 PM Re: Cha Cha Tyros 5 [Re: Dnj]
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And here is the way it should be played................

https://youtu.be/0ZECRi91s5A?t=247

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