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#378838 - 12/20/13 08:47 AM Midi Question
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How is one able to use the GM set in my keyboard as a sound source for my Notation Midi sequencer on my PC. I have modules like SD2 I can use, but maybe I don't have to carry it. I have some special songs I play over, and want better quality that WAve synth.

I am not sure how to get the program to recognize the keyboard.
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#378843 - 12/20/13 10:29 AM Re: Midi Question [Re: Bernie9]
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Does your pc s. Souncard have a physical midi out?
Does your arranger support midi over usb?
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#378846 - 12/20/13 10:59 AM Re: Midi Question [Re: Bernie9]
rosetree
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If you only want your keyboard GM sounds to play the file from the PC sequencer program, I don't think the program needs to recognize your keyboard, but the keyboard just has to receive the correct midi messages, so (besides the proper usb/midi connection) you need to select the correct MSB/LSB/PC (bank number/program change) for each track/part. These values are normally indicated for each sound in the sound list of the keyboard. I don't know if this addresses your problem?


Edited by rosetree (12/20/13 11:01 AM)

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#378848 - 12/20/13 11:29 AM Re: Midi Question [Re: ]
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Hello:

Providing that the midi file has embedded the program and controllers for the tracks/channels, any keyboard should play correctly.
As an example, the Yamaha keyboards have all the GM, XG, GM2 plus the Panel tone generation, (besides other banks like Legacy, sound banks from previous models, this is what keeps compatible any midi file made from an older model to the newer, does not necessarily means that are better sounds on the new model, simply, is playing the same voices/sounds from the previous model.
Some people edit their midi files by Re-voicing each track (make a Program change) of the Midi file with the better or newer tone generation from the newer keyboard.

That is why in the Program change of each Channel/Track has the proper bank and patch number that is assigned. Most professional SMFs have this data.

I hope this helps you. keys
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#378861 - 12/20/13 01:28 PM Re: Midi Question [Re: Bernie9]
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Thanks guys.

I did get my Yamaha S910 to play the midi using my Midisport with midi in and USB. I sure don't have the knowledge to do any track editing, and I am sure my results would be better than what I got.

It was partially better, but the wrong drums were used, etc. The SD2 module is the best solution for me, but I wanted to try anyway.

Thanks for your time.
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#378870 - 12/20/13 02:01 PM Re: Midi Question [Re: Bernie9]
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Bernie, I don't know anything about the S910 but most synths need to be put into GM mode to automatically play the correct voices (including drum kit). Maybe you could check that out.

chas
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#378872 - 12/20/13 02:27 PM Re: Midi Question [Re: Bernie9]
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Bernie, it's pretty easy with the S-910 and I'll give you a call.

Gary cool
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#378922 - 12/21/13 01:53 AM Re: Midi Question [Re: Bernie9]
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Yamaha's might have some issues with basic GM drum kit mappings, but on the whole, shouldn't be much of a problem.

Thing is, unless the program ASKS for Variation sounds, it should just play the Capitol sound if all it sees is a PC#, so no problem there.

Overall, Bernie, I'd just hook them up via MIDI and see if there's an issue before you go looking for help. You might be pleasantly surprised!
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#378929 - 12/21/13 02:43 AM Re: Midi Question [Re: Diki]
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Diki

Thanks, but I did hook it up with midi and reported as such. Maybe I missed something.
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#378931 - 12/21/13 02:50 AM Re: Midi Question [Re: Bernie9]
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You got any other programs working with MIDI yet?

I'm a Mac man, so you need to ask a PC guru here about getting the PC to recognize the MIDI in.

Help them out. What OS and hardware do you have?
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