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#170590 - 09/18/07 10:04 AM
Re: One more CRAZY LOVE - swing
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
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Cass, man, I really enjoyed your bb swing rendition, perhaps, even better than your original. Rather than Buble, your vocals gave me the impression of how Van Morrison might deliver a swing jazz standard. Originally posted by cassp: It seems no matter how many times I play thru a song, as soon as I touch 'record' everything goes wrong. You'll hear them here - harmony on verses - what's that; flubbed fills and even a lukewarm organ solo Yeah, I too often experience that anxiety filled 'everything go wrong''rec button' activated feeling. Nonetheless, whatever minor imperfections heard on your song, they didn't bother me in the least. I think this your best song submission here so far. Thanks for sharing. Scott
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#170594 - 09/18/07 01:23 PM
Re: One more CRAZY LOVE - swing
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Registered: 03/21/03
Posts: 3748
Loc: Motown
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I sure do appreciate the positive vibes. As for the style, it's not one I would choose for this song, but I can imagine a lot of guys (I don't want to call them lounge singers) who do this quite often, and don't even know it. Plus, I wanted to highlight the G70 style. I think the Yamahas are equally good in this genre, but I love the warmth I hear from Roland
I'm getting comfortable with the G70, for sure, but it's a lot of work setting up songs. I guess that's what those UPGs are for, hey? Unfortunately, I'm a very "on the fly" guy and I may never do a particular song twice. Especially with my midi-laden songlist, arranger tunes are few and far between right now. But I know enough now to save some of these settings to avoid the frustration.
So I guess this forum has really helped me get comfortable in my arranger hat.
[This message has been edited by cassp (edited 09-18-2007).]
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#170598 - 09/19/07 11:17 AM
Re: One more CRAZY LOVE - swing
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14201
Loc: NW Florida
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The thing about harmonies is... It isn't often that close-voiced four part harmony works very well, even with REAL singers. The trick, just like horn voicings, string voicings, you name it, is to spread the voicing wider. But this will often stretch a pitch transposer further than it wants to comfortably go.
Especially if you are a baritone or lower. You have to make sure all the harmonies are higher than your voice. Most pop music, at most you'll hear two harmony parts and the lead (if they are blocking around the melody). Often just the one. Try for a simpler harmonizer setting, and you may up with less mechanical sounding backing. One, maybe two voices ABOVE your singing, cassp, might help.
But, of course, good pitch is important, but flies away from the need to phrase like Van, who is anything but precise in his pitch! What's a boy to do?
For me, sadly, until these things can totally fool ME (I don't care if anyone else notices!), I can't bring myself to use the harmonizers...
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