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#49408 - 08/26/03 03:04 PM One Missing Feature since KN3000
fmlk4u Offline
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Registered: 08/23/03
Posts: 190
Loc: Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Hello Fellow KN7000 players,

As you can read on the KESO site in my biography I have played KN1000, 3000, 5000 and now 7000. There is one great feature I miss in the keyboards since KN3000; it was in KN1000, 2000 and 3000. Yes, you know it by now? DYNAMIC ACCOMPIMENT. I loved that feature on the KN3000 playing live. It made especially the music much more realistic. Does anybody know why it's taken out since then. Every keyboard should be downward compatible, isn't it?

Kind Regards, Fred

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#49409 - 08/26/03 04:45 PM Re: One Missing Feature since KN3000
Bill Norrie Offline
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Registered: 01/16/02
Posts: 2330
Loc: North Yorkshire UK
I agree with you Fred, as do many other members of the Forum. It was a great feature and it would be good to have it reinstated in a future instrument......
ARE YOU LISTENING TECHNICS ?????
The subject has been discussed at length in earlier threads on this Forum... Have a look here : http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum25/HTML/000815.html


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#49410 - 08/26/03 07:01 PM Re: One Missing Feature since KN3000
Walt Meyer Offline
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Registered: 10/02/02
Posts: 437
Loc: Silver City, NM USA
Bill,
I'm afraid that Technics is not listening, at least not here in the USA. Their employees are prohibited from monitoring the forums in the work place and in that case I doubt that they would have any incentive to monitor on their own time.

It's too bad but they could get some real insight into how their products fair in the market place. In most part they would be thrilled with the accolades given to the KN7000, and by looking at the "wish" lists, they could see how to improve their product in the future.
However, Technics is succesful in spite of appearing that they have their head in the sand. I wonder where they really get their ideas from? It would be interesting to know.
Walt

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#49411 - 08/26/03 08:39 PM Re: One Missing Feature since KN3000
lahawk Offline
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Registered: 06/28/01
Posts: 2781
Loc: Lehigh Valley, Pa.
I still have a 3000 and thought I would give the Dynamic Accompiment a try.

Maybe it's me, but I don't notice any difference with it ON or OFF.

Could be that's why Technics nixed it

Larry Hawk
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#49412 - 08/27/03 10:40 AM Re: One Missing Feature since KN3000
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Registered: 06/09/02
Posts: 3163
Loc: Pensacola, Florida, USA
Hello

I used to have a KN1000 and although the book said something to the effect that by stiking the keys harder in the left hand that some changes would occur in the accompaniment making it more like peforming in a live band. But, I'll have to admit, I never heard any change, even though I tried it on a number of occasions. But yes, the way they described the way it should work would be an excellent idea. I know some keyboards the backround will change according to the chords one is playing. I don't know if the 7000 does that because I have never seen one.

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Scott Langholff

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#49413 - 08/27/03 11:10 AM Re: One Missing Feature since KN3000
fmlk4u Offline
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Registered: 08/23/03
Posts: 190
Loc: Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Hello Lahawk and Scott,

On my KN1000 in the old days I had similar problem that is was not very noticable. But also my aftertouch was not working. It appeared just a simple potmeter setting in the keyboard, done for free by my retailer, and on my KN3000 it worked just great. The SwingRock pattern was my favorite. I had dyn. Accomp. always on. I have sent the links of these forum pages to panasonic. I think they should hear it over and over again. Maybe it could be added to the KN7000 as a patch or so.
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#49414 - 08/27/03 12:22 PM Re: One Missing Feature since KN3000
Gunnar Jonny Online   content
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Registered: 04/01/01
Posts: 4333
Loc: Norway
[QUOTE]Originally posted by lahawk:
... Maybe it's me, but I don't notice any difference with it ON or OFF.[QUOTE]

Depends a bit of your "playing style" Larry.
Try press a bit harder when play a chord in
left hand when the autocomp are going, and
you'll hear the different ways of variations
or other "break" types, a kind of more "live"
feeling when playing.
I miss it, thought it was a nice "goodie".
Happy playing.
GJ

Btw, if I don't remember it wrong, it is also
possible to adjust how hard you have to strike
the keys before any changes will happen.
Somewhere in the settings......

[This message has been edited by Gunnar Jonny (edited 08-27-2003).]
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#49415 - 08/27/03 12:43 PM Re: One Missing Feature since KN3000
tony mads usa Offline
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Registered: 01/16/02
Posts: 14376
Loc: East Greenwich RI USA
I had it on my kn1000 and really liked it ...can't figure why you guys couldn't hear a difference on yours ... I was disapponited when I saw it was NOT on the kn6000 ....
also, I really liked the 'applause' variation on the kn1000 where it would go into a rhythmic beat as if at a rock concert... I was sorry that was gone as well .....
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#49416 - 08/27/03 01:48 PM Re: One Missing Feature since KN3000
rikkisbears Offline
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Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6020
Loc: NSW,Australia
Hi,
I must admit I tried using it too ( on kn3), and didn't notice any difference. Maybe I didn't play the keys hard enough.

best wishes
Rikki
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#49417 - 08/27/03 01:59 PM Re: One Missing Feature since KN3000
lahawk Offline
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Registered: 06/28/01
Posts: 2781
Loc: Lehigh Valley, Pa.
Gunner, and all the fine KN'er's

On my old 3000 you hold the Dynamic Accomp button down, and you get a choice of
Heavy
Normal
Light
Extra Light

I tried all 4 and no matter how hard I played the chords, I still don't hear any difference in any setting.

In the Instruction Manual: It changes each accompaniant pattern of the Auto Play Chord, depending on the condition of the performance, each ACCOMP part changes. (Don't you just love Technics Manuals)

Also on a side note, I was told by a Technics Dealer, that Dynamic Accompaniment was not needed on later keyboards, especially the 7000. Since I do not notice a difference with Dynamic Accompaniment on the 3000, and the 7000 Accompaniment already sounds dynamic to me, I'll have to agree with him. Simply no need for it.

Larry Hawk
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