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#97598 - 12/09/04 08:20 AM
Re: What's going on with Ketron?
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Originally posted by frankieve: I think the SD1 is a amazing sounding arranger, but it's gotten a little old, and it has been along time since it has been released. Frankieve I couldn't help thinking how ironicly funny your statement struck me. because even after 18 years of ownership, I continue to think my Steinway B piano an 'amazing sounding' instrument, and have no interest in trading it for something else, yet even though I too feel my Tyros still sounds fantastic, I'm admitedly always anxious to see what Tyros II or another arranger will offer as well. Interesting how 'electronic arranger keyboard instruments' don't tend to satisfy over the 'long haul' the way their acoustic counterparts (pianos, guitars, horns, brass, reeds & sax instruments, etc) do. Then again, I suppose it's because acoustic instrument manufacterers don't release new model improvements every year either. Acoustic players typically purchase a specific instrument to which they develop a 'life long' playing relationship with. Just words for thought. Scott
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#97603 - 12/10/04 01:22 AM
Re: What's going on with Ketron?
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Registered: 10/27/03
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Loc: CA
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Originally posted by Scottyee: Interesting how 'electronic arranger keyboard instruments' don't tend to satisfy over the 'long haul' the way their acoustic counterparts (pianos, guitars, horns, brass, reeds & sax instruments, etc) do. Then again, I suppose it's because acoustic instrument manufacterers don't release new model improvements every year either. Acoustic players typically purchase a specific instrument to which they develop a 'life long' playing relationship with. Just words for thought. Scott I think the 'key' to this whole scenario is sound. An excellent acoustic instrument such as a Steinway Grand, a Les Paul Guitar or a Stradivarius Violin, etc. is something that is yet unachievable (sound wise) in an electronic keyboard. But if you are an audiophile and want authentic (realistic) reproduction of an acoustic instrument's sound you would tend IMO to continue in your pursuit of 'perfection' of the real thing. That is why IMO so many electronic Keyboard players continually upgrade to the latest greatest. They want the absolute best sound they can get for their money and newer and newer keyboards with newer and newer technology, i.e. "sounds and features alike" get better and better sound wise and also feature wise. >> Except Roland Arrrangers unfortunately... That is why I bought a Tyros. Even though it doesn't have internal speakers which I would have liked, it has really wonderful sounds in it. And it has many great features too. But foremost, GIVE ME THE SOUNDS!!! >> The features, yes; but give me the SOUNDS!! NEVER IMO substitute 'features' for sounds. Sounds should have top priority IMO. If you get the sounds you want plus the features you want then the features are the gravy. But the sounds are the meat and potatoes. But me and many of my colleagues still seek the holy grail, i.e. "THE MOTHER OF ALL ARRANGERS"... Same goes for traditional Workstation Keyboardists. When you hear the real thing, e.g. a Steinway Grand, a Stradivarius Violin, a Les Paul Guitar, etc., the ear knows what it hears. That's why those instruments get such rave reviews and people love them so much. Because they sound sooooooooooo good!! Any keyboardist who knows the difference between mediocrity and excellence would IMO choose excellence if they had the choice. As the saying goes: "Build it and they will come". That is why people keep buying and upgrading their keyboards or other Music related gear. They're looking for the "ULTIMATE" in sound reproduction.. Tyros II anyone?? But of course the proof is in the puddin' as they say. What new Arranger keyboard will be the next hot ticket item? The Tyros II or.....???? Time will tell. But I say again to the Manufacturers: "Build it and they will come". My 2¢ Best regards, Mike [This message has been edited by keybplayer (edited 12-10-2004).]
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#97607 - 12/10/04 10:55 AM
Re: What's going on with Ketron?
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Registered: 10/08/00
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Loc: West Virginia
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Posted by DonM
I feel that traditional pianos will virtually cease to exist before too many more years. Sure, a few elite will still want one to put in their entertainment rooms but as digital and electronic pianos continue to improve, there will be no real reason to spend all that money on a traditional piano, and then have to maintain it properly. Scott, you can keep yours and maybe buy a harpsichord to go with it! DonM P.S. That should liven things up a little. ------------------------------------
Don I have to agree with you. Most homes that I know that own a piano have purchased a digital rather than an acoustic. It's the size, weight, sound, features, and NO TUNING that really attracts buyers now. One of the administraters I know at my college just dumped a Baldwin Acoustic for a Roland Digital. He hasn't regretted the change since. Your statement got me thinking to an episode of Star Trek I saw several years ago. The Captain was playing a digital piano of (their) time. It was a completely flat keybed. Totally smooth and the keys did not move. He just touched the keys and they sounded and even lit under his fingers.
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