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#96806 - 08/25/04 09:59 PM When would one use a mic pre-amp?
Bill in Dayton Offline
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Just wondering...

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#96807 - 08/26/04 01:34 AM Re: When would one use a mic pre-amp?
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If you aint got a mixer and you are getting hiss from the mic channel because you have to turn everything up?
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#96808 - 08/26/04 05:32 AM Re: When would one use a mic pre-amp?
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If you rhave a psr you'll get hiss no matter what you do. The mic input is not very clean.

Preamps work wonders for digital recordings, and can add some "oomph" to a somewhat average mic. Studio applications mostly, but certain live situations can benifit as well.
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#96809 - 08/26/04 05:55 AM Re: When would one use a mic pre-amp?
Bill in Dayton Offline
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Uncle Dave-

So, for the most part, if I'm clearly pleased with my live sound as is...it wouldn't be a significant improvement to look at adding a mic pre-amp, true?

The subject came up in my openign discussions with the sales tech when I was looking for new pa speakers...The tech felt with a mic pre-amp, it might enhance the vocals to where my old yamahas might have been acceptable. Regardless, it wouldn't have addressed any of the instrument sound reproduction...

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#96810 - 08/26/04 06:22 AM Re: When would one use a mic pre-amp?
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Bill,

Are you singing through the keyboard? If so be sure the switch on the back is set to mic--not LINE.

Dave, I don't get any hiss at all with the 3K using the Crown 311 or Sennheiser, but this may have something to do with the way I have the mic EQ set.

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#96811 - 08/26/04 06:26 AM Re: When would one use a mic pre-amp?
Bill in Dayton Offline
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Gary-

No, not using Tyros for any vocals at this point...

I'm running my Sure 57a into my digitech VR, then taking its stereo outs into a stereo channel on my mixer...

I'm not hearing any hiss or noises at all...

I guess I had never used a mic preamp, and wasn't sure if it was anything I ought to be looking at, that's all...

Bill
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#96812 - 08/26/04 06:47 AM Re: When would one use a mic pre-amp?
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Bill, I haven't used a preamp either, but I think even the VR would qualify as a preamp to some degree. My understanding is that a preamp can help boost/lower some of the characteristics of a mic to give a beteer or different sound. In a live situation I don't feel a preamp is usually necessary, at least not in our situations.
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#96813 - 08/26/04 07:11 AM Re: When would one use a mic pre-amp?
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#96814 - 08/26/04 07:54 AM Re: When would one use a mic pre-amp?
DonM Offline
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No mic hiss for me with any of the PSRs.
Sometimes I run the mic straight into the keyboard, sometimes I use a mixer and a "send" to the keyboard. No hiss.
All the demos on my website were made live with the mic through the keyboards. No hiss.
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#96815 - 08/26/04 08:34 AM Re: When would one use a mic pre-amp?
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Trust me, they hiss. If the EQ is set to anything higher than flat ..... you get hiss. Granted, it's not horrible, but maybe your situations and/or hearing loss mask it to a degree.
If you use the Noice gate - it becomes very clear just how much hiss the unit generates. It's not the mic input alone ... it's the general amp.

The Tyros may not have the same noise ratio. I'm just talking psr here.
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