Here is a message I just posted on the Yahoo Style forum:
I hve just discovered, from George Kaye, that the PSR2000, although
advertised as upgradeable through Flash Rom, is indeed NOT supported
in that matter.
Yamaha still has this claim on their website, and it seems to be
blantantly untrue. Had I known this, I would not have purchased the
2000, as good as it is. I would most likely have gone to a 9000 Pro.
In addition, I have influenced four local people to purchase this
keyboard, and God knows how many over the internet.
I wish I were a lawyer or had the resources to pursue THIS matter.
The styles "thing" is a bother, but the upgrade LIE is another thing
entirely.
Oh, I'm sure there is a disclaimer from Yamaha somewhere in the small
print, but this is another instance of this large corporation doing
exactly what they want, with no consequences, then having the
unmitigated gall to complain that we want to share styles.
Simply amazing. I will be just as vocal "dissing" this company as I
have been for many years promoting it.
DonM

"Specifications and appearance are subject to change without prior notice."


Bob


PS: Don, if you need some relief:

1. Take two Tylenol

2. Read: http://www.nolo.com/humor/jokes.cfm (right side of page),
or http://www.duhaime.org/jokes.htm

3. Consider a remedy in your local Small Claims Court.

On Bob's forum a user mentioned that he will be covering the Yamaha logo on his board when performing for an audience. I will follow suit, ( that's if I even decide to keep the 2000 ) but I will not cover the logo for my PA80. Should anyone ask, I will explain ( privately most likely ) the reasons for this.

"Korg" AJ


[This message has been edited by Bluezplayer (edited 01-30-2002).]

Just because "specifications are subject to change" does not justify a misrepresentation regarding a feature used to entice people to buy the keyboard. You can't advertise a keyboard as having 48MB of sample ROM, but ship keyboards with 2MB of ROM and just say the specifications changed, see the fine print.

In this case, the PSR-2000 was advertised (I assume) as having its operating system in flash ROM so you would not have to take your keyboard in to have it upgraded. Obviously, this is an attractive feature, especially to a Pro who makes a living with the keyboard. I think Don is justifiably upset that he will have to give up his keyboard to have it upgraded.

I tend to view the world through Rose-colored glases, and I am assuming Yamaha made an honest mistake. I assume they put some code in ROM that they thought would never have to be changed, where the part that might have to be changed was put in flash. Then, it turned out something in ROM had to be changed. So, while Yamaha's mistake might be upsetting, it does not reflect anything nefarious. I think the efforts to punish Yamaha are misdirected and futile.

I might add that it may well be that most upgrades will probably be in the form of software updates. I doubt a firmware upgrade will be required everytime.




[This message has been edited by Clif Anderson (edited 01-30-2002).]

I can't punish Yamaha. This company is so big that anything I would or could do would be totally insignificant. But neither do I have to support or promote them, or use their products, if they do not act to rectify the situation.
The reason the Harmonizer issue is so important to me is that I am working with the guy who did "I Like Bread and Butter". The guy who did the high part is not a part of our act, so I must do it, using the Karaoke Girl setting. Now I have to take the old PSR8000 instead of my brand new 2000 if I want to perform this song.
There are other remedies, such as external harmonizer, but that shouldn't be necessary since the keyboard I bought is supposed to have this feature. It probably is not that important to anybody else in the world.
DonM

I think your partner should get his own harmonizer to do that high part, so you can do the backups in harmony .... the way it was on his record.

Actually, lately we've been taking both the 8000 and the 2000. He plays the 8000 and does exactly that!
Only thing is he is a piano player, and doesn't like to worry about chords, so we are working with the best way to to set up the 8000.
Don

Don,

I would suggest to everyone using a Yamaha musical instrument to cover-up the Yamaha name with tape. Clif Anderson is exactly correct in his take on the whole issue. Specs subject to change does not mean a major revision of what has been advertised. Yamaha should make the product as advertised and give you owners the oppertunity to exchange your non spec keyboards for the new ones.

Don if you need to sing the high part have your partner give you a wedgie just before the song starts. Just a thought ......

Tom

I did not pay much attention to the issue, not having bought one, but my dealer told me he had to send many of the early 2000s back to Yamaha for modification.

why do this if it could be flash upgraded?

[This message has been edited by technicsplayer (edited 01-30-2002).]

Oh man I nearly laughed my @&% off. Thanks for the light moment Tom,

" Korg " AJ