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#95164 - 10/20/02 09:00 AM Re: possible (expensive) portable kb monitor
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Originally posted by trtjazz:
I thought there was this entire issue about the Tyros, because the speakers were not internal and now there is all this chit chat about seperate monitoring systems? Why not just go with the Tyros ones?
Terry



Hi Terry: The reason I brought this up is because I had heard that the Tyros ones are not that roadworthy (rugged). For home/studio use, fine, but I need something that is can be easily transported in ONE unit and set up fairly quickly as well. The Model Twelve all in one system (including carrying case) seems like it might be easier to transport than the Tyros speaker system. Steve Deming even admitted that the Tyros speaker system may not be rugged enough to handle a lot of gig transporting.

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Originally posted by nardoni2002:
scott,the speaker system looks cool but the specs don,t say what the power output is ,any idea? mike


Mike, GOOD Question. I was wondering that myself. I'll try to stop by a Cambridge Soundworks showroom next week and try to find out.

As far as the Model Twelve setup time goes, my guess it would not take any longer than setting up the Tyros speakers. Of course I'd prefer a kb with built in speakers too, but I realize this would add to the weight considerably, but my guess is that both the Tyros speakers and the Model Twelve would sound better than any internal kb speakers could provide . . . . that is unless you have the kb weighing in at 59 lbs, like the Genesys.
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#95165 - 11/15/02 05:53 PM Re: possible (expensive) portable kb monitor
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Originally posted by nardoni2002:
scott,the speaker system (Cambridge Soundworkd Model Twelve) looks cool but the specs don,t say what the power output is ,any idea? mike


Hi Mike,

I finally got the chance to check out the Model 12's out in a local Cambridge Soundworks store:

I thought the sound was'nt too bad considering it has only a 13 watt 6" sub woofer, and the 2 satellite speakers are 2 way type: 3" & 3/4" each. Each satelite speaker draws 7.3 watts. This makes the total system 27.6 watts at 8 ohms. Not a heck of a lot of power, but still at least equal to (or better ) than the built in speakers provide in my PSR2000. Of course you can't really make any kind of honest comparison without actually audtioning both side by side.

The big disadvantage of the Cambridge Model Twelve System is that the speaker wires are not the 'plug in jack' type, but instead, bare tipped copper wires that must to be feed into tiny holes with spring connectors, certainly not idea for quick setup/breakdown. The other thing is, that in addition to the speakers themselves, you have to connect everything up to a separate control box. Is all this hassle worth the convenience of a single 27lb built in carrying case transportable system? If you own an arranger keyboard without built in speakers and 'personal' monitoring is important, the Model Twelves may be worth considering. Still, because the Model Twelve is of the a PC computer type (2 tiny satellites & a sub),it lacks a bit in the mid range frequencies, and probably doesn't even sound as good as the Yamaha Tyros PC computer type speaker system.

In conclusion, the big selling point about the Model Twelve is the one box combo carrying case/built in subwoofer design which makes transporting this system a breeze. It's hooking the system up AFTER you get it out of the box that seems more inconvenient than necessary. - Scott


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Originally posted by Uncle Dave:
I just bought a Bose Acoustic wave radio/CD player. I'll let you know if it's a contender!I have a strong feeling that it just may be the answer to those tiny room scenarios that need a little extra ooomph without the bulk and ugliness of concert setups. Crossing my fingers now ..............


Uncle Dave, Did you finally get a chance yet to test out the Bose Acoustic Wave system out with your Keyboard? What's your impression after testing?. Scott
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#95166 - 11/15/02 09:44 PM Re: possible (expensive) portable kb monitor
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I've got a Peavey Escort system on trial this weekend. I used it tonight at a supper club, and it sounded very good. It's only 75 watts per side, but everything sounds crisp and clear. I would prefer a little more bass at high volume, but it's pretty good.
The best thing is that it's completely self-contained and has wheels. Everything fits inside including mics, cords, stands and speakers.
I will use it again tomorrow night and then decide whether to keep it.
DonM
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#95167 - 11/16/02 12:16 AM Re: possible (expensive) portable kb monitor
Uncle Dave Offline
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I thought the Escort was a little heavy, but it DOES have wheels. I also thought the bass response was good at moderate levels, anyway. The sattelight cabinets are pretty small and light, yet the book says it can produce lows to about 40 or 50 hz. Is that possible?

BTW- the Bose hasn'r left my bedroom since that first night. I'm so spoiled by the sound in that room ....... I fall asleep to it every night.
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#95168 - 11/16/02 08:19 AM Re: possible (expensive) portable kb monitor
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Actually the manual says 25 to 50.
It does seem to reproduce all the sounds. The only limitations that bother me are the overall volume (while it is fine for small rooms, it definitely wouldn't play a very large venue), and the apparent lack of "sends".
I generally run my mic into mixer, then a send to the PSR. Last night I plugged the mic directly into the PSR.
More after tonight.
Don
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#95169 - 11/16/02 10:03 AM Re: possible (expensive) portable kb monitor
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25 !!! Wow ...... I'd be surprised if it REALLY reproduces those lows, but it DOES have a good, solid bass. Most 18" woofers only go down to 30 or so. Hartley might have oedipal issues too.
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