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#86879 - 12/08/05 01:17 AM Can an 8 year old really play guitar ?
Nigel Offline
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=jQZW1WNj8uQ

Oh yeah ......


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#86880 - 12/08/05 12:23 PM Re: Can an 8 year old really play guitar ?
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That's it!!!
I'm selling all my guitars...

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#86881 - 12/08/05 03:48 PM Re: Can an 8 year old really play guitar ?
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Thank you Nigel!

Makes my 40-something heart beat afresh - uncanny ability at such a young age - and reminds me of the seemingly unbelievable (at the time!) stories surrounding a 14-year-old Steve Vai (and his mum, if the rumours are correct) trying to persuade Frank Zappa to take him on tour in the late 70s-80s (I think this is right . . ? . . .)

Apparently Frank wouldn't allow it til Steve was 16 - bummer. . . . .

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#86882 - 12/08/05 11:21 PM Re: Can an 8 year old really play guitar ?
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When you see something like this it makes those Steve Vai stories quite believable. I guess the kid in this video will be quite capable of touring by the age of 14. Damnit the kid is only 8 .... how long can he have been playing for?

I never saw Zappa and Vai play together unfortunately though I have seen them both live separately. I saw Frank Zappa & The Mothers Of Invention a couple of times back in the 70s with Jean Luc Ponty ( violin ), George Duke ( keyboards ), Ian & Ruth Underwood ( sax/xylophone ) and Ansley Dunbar ( drums ). Amazing stuff. Oh and of course Frank Zappa conducted the band and played lots of "in-yer-face" guitar. I saw Steve Vai about 10 years ago at Ventura Theater. I have seen a quite a few good guitar players at that local venue up the road from my home in Ventura including Larry Carlton, Joe Satriani and Kenny Wayne Shepherd. There always so much more to learn lol. And I'm getting so old you'd think I should have it all down by now. Then young kids really make me open my eyes and I go back to practicing. By the time I die I should be a pretty good player by then


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#86883 - 12/09/05 07:01 AM Re: Can an 8 year old really play guitar ?
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The kid had a nice technique but the trick will be to turn that into something musical, i.e. melody, beat, chord changes.
When I worked in the music store there was a ton of young kids that came in and played all these memorized licks and riffs but none of them could play a song, or make music they could only copy.
Nigel I'm sure you could copy those licks, but you play in a band so you know the real trick is to make that a useful part of the song.
If you played that all night everynight it would get old fast.


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#86884 - 12/11/05 07:52 AM Re: Can an 8 year old really play guitar ?
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Is there another link to see this , I can't get into it in the reg-link and I would like to see it....thank you..
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#86885 - 12/12/05 09:25 AM Re: Can an 8 year old really play guitar ?
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mikeathome1....
Your observation is quite valid. The lightning licks are impressive, but they do get old very fast. Our guitarist, Bill, always impresses me with his ability, and it's not because of his intricate finger work, but more...he knows how & where it's needed, and he never over does it. So again, I know where you're coming from. Unless you can make out some sort of melody or chord progression, it's gonna get stale real quick, but I do admire the young man's dexterity.

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#86886 - 12/12/05 09:40 AM Re: Can an 8 year old really play guitar ?
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Tell the truth Nigel, that was really you when you were 8 wasn't it?

Do you think the kid can play in the key of Eb?

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#86887 - 12/12/05 10:09 AM Re: Can an 8 year old really play guitar ?
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I wanna see it....wwaaaa
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#86888 - 12/12/05 10:27 PM Re: Can an 8 year old really play guitar ?
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It's a real pity you can't see it Tony. What OS are you running ? though I know people with Windows and MacOS that were able to see it. Have you tried it again since and left it for while before giving up on it ? It's a shame it can't be saved locally or I'd download to my hard drive, but I can only view it.

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#86889 - 06/12/08 12:05 AM Re: Can an 8 year old really play guitar ?
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tony Rome:
I wanna see it....wwaaaa
TR


You can see this clip on YouTube nowadays at http://youtube.com/watch?v=jQZW1WNj8uQ

Even 3 years later it still makes me crack up watching that baby shredding away. No matter what you think of his ability it is so very cool to watch. I still have fun with it.



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#86890 - 06/12/08 12:33 AM Re: Can an 8 year old really play guitar ?
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Gosh it's easy to lose time on YouTube lol. I was looking at links next to the 8 year old's video and ended up watching this guy ... what fun. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfqu4YEufYc&feature=related

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#86891 - 06/12/08 01:09 AM Re: Can an 8 year old really play guitar ?
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This 9 year old is pretty fun to watch as well. It's good to see kids that do something constructive with their time !!!!! http://youtube.com/watch?v=b7e8vQT4hZA&feature=related

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#86892 - 06/12/08 08:20 AM Re: Can an 8 year old really play guitar ?
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Fun stuff! I think you've got to give it to the kids for great effort. Of course, just playing memorized parts isn't really proof of in-depth ability, but it sure is a start. I'm teaching a very promising 9 year old now, and was performing in an Officers club in Fairbanks at age 10.

Believe me, what these youngsters lack in an underestanding of structure, etc. will come with time.

The majic of music! It sure changed my life (and got me laid in the process)!


Gotta love it!


Thanks, Nigel!


Russ

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#86893 - 06/12/08 07:07 PM Re: Can an 8 year old really play guitar ?
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One of the Masters playing what is probably my all time favorite song ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWa6aChSf1w&feature=related

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#86894 - 06/13/08 08:06 AM Re: Can an 8 year old really play guitar ?
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Tony, Ella Fitzgerald introduced be to Joe in 1963. He had just quit drinking and was religious (some thought obnoxious-going to jobs, etc.) about "converting" other musicians to a life of sobriety.

Sat in with him on upright somewhere in LA...can't remember much...sadly, I was 3/4 "in the bag" at the time.

One of my all-time favorite tunes, too!


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#86895 - 06/13/08 02:31 PM Re: Can an 8 year old really play guitar ?
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Russ ... You have led a very interesting life !!!
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#86896 - 06/14/08 12:24 PM Re: Can an 8 year old really play guitar ?
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Tony, the only problem is the self-induced "fog" that causes memory lapses now. I THINK I enjoyed the hell out of it!


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#86897 - 06/16/08 06:38 PM Re: Can an 8 year old really play guitar ?
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I was thinking about this thread as I was driving down to NJ this weekend ... I was in awe of you (Russ) meeting Joe Pass, and then it struck me that you were introduced to him by ELLA FITZGERALD !!!!!
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#86898 - 06/16/08 09:16 PM Re: Can an 8 year old really play guitar ?
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Russ is a very special guy. But it has nothing to do with the people he has met though that is awesome. Russ is special just because of who he is. Our good friend !!!!!

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#86899 - 06/17/08 07:51 AM Re: Can an 8 year old really play guitar ?
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Thanks, guys. I'm really fortunate. Ella had just divorced my all-time favorite musician and mentor, Ray Brown when I met them as a "wet behind the ears" kid of 16 in the fall of 1962. They were still friendly, and Ella would sing lead lines for me to help with melodies and changes. We had upwards of 50 informal sessions like this.

Of course, Ray was a lifetime friend. We kept in touch right up until his death a few years ago. Until he died, he would give a free lesson to a promising player in every town he visited before he played...usually in his motel room.

He was a man of strong ethics and a real humanitarian. Even in his later years, he was politically savy and in touch with leading edge music trends.

I couldn't think of a better role model.


I miss him.


R.

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