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#81145 - 03/31/06 06:57 AM cost of gas is double ..how has it changed your spending ?
DanO1 Offline
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Here in the USA, we have suffered through historical fuel increases during the aftermath of Katrina and the prices just haven't gone down..today, gas was $2.55 a gallon....

How can todays economy be compared to years previous when the cost of fuel has risen so much ?

I don't want a polictical debate, but just some comments on whether the cost of fuel has made you think differently about how you spend your money ....

I rented a large pick up truck for 7 days while my Honda Passport was being fixed.
The extra cost of gas, just to drive around town was over $80.00 a week ... eeks


Many people on this forum may have steady gigs, how much of a increase did you seek to compensate for fuel increase ??


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#81146 - 03/31/06 07:44 AM Re: cost of gas is double ..how has it changed your spending ?
DonM Offline
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In 1965 I was making $50. a week. Gas was around .26 a gallon.
Gas has increased x10, not as much as income, but of course everything else has gone up also. Bread was .20 a loaf, so the 10x figure is close there. A 12-ounce Pepsi Cola was a nickel. It has gone up 10x as well.
We've been getting a very good deal on gasoline for decades. However, I can't see any reason for the high prices except that the oil companies know that we have to pay whatever they ask. Of course taxes on fuel now are more than the total cost 30 years ago.
I had a 57 Chevrolet in high school. It got 9 mpg. Now my Chevy Venture van gets 26 mpg, so at least cars are more efficient. Even my Yukon gets more than twice what the muscle cars did.
Another factor is that as a rule we drive a lot more now. Cities are larger, everything seems to be 30 minutes away.
To answer your question, I have recently increased my asking price for private parties by $50. When I go very far out of town, I ask for expenses, and it usually isn't a problem, because everybody understands that fuel is higher now.
I think it will soon get to the point where we will finally be allowed to develop and use alternate energy sources.
Just rambling.
Good subject.
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#81147 - 03/31/06 08:36 AM Re: cost of gas is double ..how has it changed your spending ?
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Loc: Florida, USA
Simple math could make you feel a little better about mileage. For instance in DonM's case, he gets 26 miles per gallon. Price per gallon locally, today, is $2.55. That works out to just less than 10cents per mile.

In urban areas where there is heavy waiting in traffic and a lot of traffic lights and other delays, the actual cost per mile will increase from burning gas while stopped.

Like Don, I have increased the fee for out of town private parties...but I do it by adding 50cents per mile both ways...and, so far, no complaints.

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#81148 - 03/31/06 08:50 AM Re: cost of gas is double ..how has it changed your spending ?
DanO1 Offline
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This recent gas stuff wasn't just a gradual rise with inflation..... it was caused by a natural disaster, compounded by corruption and greed.

Americans can be happy that we haven't had to pay more money in the past, but the fact is, the gas factor has to play a roll with how I judge or forecast my business plan for the rest of the year.

I don't think many american workers have seen an increase of $1.30 an hour to compensate for gas prices ?
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#81149 - 03/31/06 11:52 AM Re: cost of gas is double ..how has it changed your spending ?
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Registered: 01/02/00
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I was just by the chevron gas station down the street and the prices posted were 2.80, 2.90, and 3.00 per gallon of gas.
My new motorhome gets 7.5 Miles per gallon of fuel compared to the old on that got about 5. This motorhome weights 26,000 pounds and the old one weighed 12,000 pounds. We used to climb hills in low gears but now the Allison does all the shifting if any and we climb the hills at hiway speeds.
However we are not doing much motorhome traveling this year. We are mostly going to a local park that is 39 miles each way when we used to go to one that was 200 miles each way. I guess our fuel costs then are about the same for motorhome trips.
Think on this:
I became privvey to a 1905 Sears and Roebuck Catalog a few years back and I looked at the prices of everything even including a complete Kraft home either prefabbed or built on your lot.
I then talked to some really old dudes and found out what they were earning at that time.
Then I sit down with my calculator and this is what I discovered. It took the same amount of hours worked in the early days as it did recently to buy the same things. The only thing that changed was the value of the dollar also called inflation. You had to work the same amount of hours in those good old days to buy a car that you have to work in these good new days.
How about that?
Bebop
PS: I just went out to dinner with wife and passed two Chevron Stations and the Ethyl gas was 3.11 per gallon. How about that?

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#81150 - 03/31/06 01:41 PM Re: cost of gas is double ..how has it changed your spending ?
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
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Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Something has got to give...I play 3 nights a week down the Jersey shore[200+ miles a night]...If I ask for mileage fees, they would say they have a hundred people that would want my job....they may find out soon!!!
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#81151 - 03/31/06 11:55 PM Re: cost of gas is double ..how has it changed your spending ?
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I'm in Chicagoland. today, common price was 2.65 (87octane).

What I can't understand is the traffic thats on the streets,hiways,tollways, everywhere.

I have different starting times and different company offices that I travel to and from so i'm seeing this at all hours of the day, not just the typical 6-8 am and 4-7 pm. This is not the norm. This has been going on for several weeks with no road/construction work to speak of. And except for a day or 2 in the last week, the weather has been cold, in the 30s to 40s.

The gas prices don't seem to be changing anyone's style around here.

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#81152 - 04/02/06 07:18 AM Re: cost of gas is double ..how has it changed your spending ?
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Registered: 06/28/01
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Loc: Lehigh Valley, Pa.
It doesn't affect my SPENDING as much as it affects my FEES. Being in a service buisness, I need to pass on the increased price of gas to my customers.

Something needs to be done ...



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#81153 - 04/02/06 04:41 PM Re: cost of gas is double ..how has it changed your spending ?
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Registered: 07/25/00
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Loc: Laguna Beach, California, Unit...
It's our demand for fuel that keeps the price escalating. I sold my car that had a V12 in it once I researched it (and got tired of feeding my tank) It's $3.05 to $3.15 for premium here in Laguna Beach, California. I said I would sell it before it hit 3 bucks a gallon and I barely did.
The less we use, the less it will cost. Locally, regionally, and nationally.
That's my opinion.
Hydrogen has the greatest potential for fuel. there is hydrogen in just about everything and it is not in any limited source by any means. We simply must convert as soon as we can. Vehicles that run on hydrogen are not slow moving either. In fact, as a fuel, hydrogen has much greater efficiency per dollar potential, and power potential.

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#81154 - 04/02/06 05:44 PM Re: cost of gas is double ..how has it changed your spending ?
DanO1 Offline
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Wow $3.05 a gallon ..

I agree with the fuel technology...definately important..
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#81155 - 04/03/06 12:50 PM Re: cost of gas is double ..how has it changed your spending ?
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Loc: netherlands
How does this sound;

We pay euro 1,41 p/liter!
1 euro = 1,2125 us$
1 gallon = 3,7854118

That's 1,41 x 1,21 x 3,78544118 = $ 6,458291 per gallon.

I think UK is even higher....
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#81156 - 04/03/06 01:07 PM Re: cost of gas is double ..how has it changed your spending ?
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I'd be much healthier because I'd be walking everywhere.

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#81157 - 04/03/06 07:02 PM Re: cost of gas is double ..how has it changed your spending ?
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Loc: San Jose, California
Quote:
Originally posted by freddynl:
How does this sound;

We pay euro 1,41 p/liter!
1 euro = 1,2125 us$
1 gallon = 3,7854118

That's 1,41 x 1,21 x 3,78544118 = $ 6,458291 per gallon.


I think UK is even higher....



Your gas price is all taxes, our is not
Bebop

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#81158 - 04/05/06 06:31 PM Re: cost of gas is double ..how has it changed your spending ?
DanO1 Offline
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It is interesting that this thread hasn't had much feedback...


Gas was $2.65 a gallon today here in Maryland.
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#81159 - 04/06/06 03:58 PM Re: cost of gas is double ..how has it changed your spending ?
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Join the resistance!!!! I hear we are going to hit close to $4.00 a gallon by next summer and it might go higher!! Want gasoline prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united action. Phillip Hollsworth offered this good idea.

This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain day" campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by refusing to buy gas. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them.

BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work. Please read on and join with us! By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about $1.50 is super cheap. Me too! It is currently $2.79 for regular unleaded in my town. Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at $1.50 - $1.75, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace..... not sellers. With the price of gasoline going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their gas! And, we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. How? Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But we CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to force a price war.

Here's the idea:

For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.

But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon and Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple to do! Now, don't wimp out at this point.... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people.

I am sending this note to 30 people. If each of us sends it to at least ten more (30 x 10 =3D 300) ... and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 =3D 3,000)...and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth group of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers. If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!

Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all. (If you don't understand how we can reach 300 million and all you have to do is send this to 10 people.... Well, let's face it, you just aren't a mathematician. But I am, so trust me on this one.)

How long would all that take? If each of us sends this e-mail out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!!

I'll bet you didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you?

Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on. I suggest that we not buy from EXXON/MOBIL UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $1.30 RANGE AND KEEP THEM DOWN

THIS CAN REALLY WORK.

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