Hi to all of you,
Last week I bought me a Apacer card reader. after install it succesfully on my PC with Windows XP without the demo of Fred's SD Explorer.
I put a SD card in the reader, it contents styles and some midifiles.
When I look on my PC in removeable disk and open then the files PRIVATE-TECHNICS and KN7000 I can see all the styles.I don't format anything.
Now I close all the files and take my SD card out of the reader and put them into my KN 7000 keyboard.
It give me a fright when I see that the SD card is empty while the display says that 2% of the 128MB card is still used.
How can I make the styles in my keyboard visible again.
I know that this has noting to do with Fred's SD Explorer, his tool is OK.

Jack

Jack, if you put the card back into your reader in the PC, do you see that all of the files are still there?
What I am worried about is that not all card readers can be "hot switched". This means that not all readers allow you to remove the reader or the card from the PC without first turning off the reader by using some sort of software routine, else data loss may occur.
I have two readers. One I can just remove without problems, the other one I have to remember to "eject" using the right mouse button in Windows Explorer. With the reader connected, look and see if there is an "eject" option in the Explorer menu (right mouse click on "Removable Disc" icon).
Walt

[This message has been edited by Walt Meyer (edited 11-10-2004).]

[This message has been edited by Walt Meyer (edited 11-10-2004).]

Hi Jack; Styles are in the CUSTOM folder. Unless you have the following setup the KN7000 will not see them. PRIVATE/TECHNICS/KN7000/CUSTOM. Without this structure the KN7000 will think the SD card is empty of styles. Files (songs) with a MID file extension will not show on the KN7000. The MIDI files have to be copied to the SD card through -- SD TOOLS - SD-SOUND TOOLS - COPY FROM DISK. Hope this helps. Dick

Hi Folks,

In the future we plan to implement handling MIDI files, CST (Custom Styles) and even SD-Audio (mp3) with SDExplorer. However much of these plans depend on the amount of customers.
At the moment w.r.t. the current "installed base" we will release a Version 1.10, with Win98/ME beta compatibility, Alphabetical searching, Progress bar during Verify, and some more features and fixes, and leave it at that stage. We have spent so much time that although we don't need to live on it, like some ROI for the hobby.

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Kind Regards, Fred

Does the above mean that these new facilities will incur extra costs over and above the present cost of the programme
or will these be as upgrades for present owners ?

Johnnie,

The developers of this tool spent many hours to put it together so we who could not do the same, can benitit from their expertise.

I spent $50 for what I now have and it is, in my opinion well worth the investment for software that can save me hours of time. This investment assured me of on line support for what I purchased. If there are upgrades and they are usable to me, I will pay the cost.

Freeware and Shareware are wonderful, but they depend on the honesty of the user. When I find a shareware program that I can use, I share in the cost in making a donation to the creater of that software.

I support Fred in his endevours and if enough folks would support ($50), I am sure any upgrades, within reason would be included.

Fran in Florida

Fran
I was not exactly asking what you felt about Fred's SD explorer tool or what it does for you or if you are satisfied with it's results & how much it cost you , I already have this information from Fred himself.
If you read my post you will see it is in direct response to Fred's post & was directed to him.

Johnnie,

"If you read my post you will see it is in direct response to Fred's post & was directed to him."

Sorry if I offended you. In the future I will make sure I do not reply to any of your posts.

Fran in Florida

Hi Walt,
Yes, when I put the SD cart in my PC again it would be show the same as before, PRIVATE,TECHNICS, KN7000 and 3 TLFD files that I can open.
When I klick the right mouse on the SD exchangeable disk there is a "eject" but it does't do anything.

Jack

Jack,

On my XP, in the tool tray there is an icon for safe disconnect. When you click the drive it turns off power to the reader. The red light goes out.

Fran in Florida

Jack, I suggest you try this: Locate all the styles on the card. Copy this files and paste it to a folder on the desktop. Put the SD card into your card reader and the GREAT SD-Explorer program will start automatic. Then drag the styles from desktop to your card (SD-Explorer window). Then try the SD-card in your KN7000.

Kind regards
Ken www.kn7000.net

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jack:
[B]Last week I bought me a Apacer card reader. after install it succesfully on my PC with Windows XP without the demo of Fred's SD Explorer.
I put a SD card in the reader, it contents styles and some midifiles.
When I look on my PC in removeable disk and open then the files PRIVATE-TECHNICS and KN7000 I can see all the styles.I don't format anything.
Now I close all the files and take my SD card out of the reader and put them into my KN 7000 keyboard.
It give me a fright when I see that the SD card is empty while the display says that 2% of the 128MB card is still used.
How can I make the styles in my keyboard visible again.
I know that this has noting to do with Fred's SD Explorer, his tool is OK.
Jack

Kenneth,
The way I read this, it doesn't actually say that Jack was using the SDExplorer tool. If not then I don't think that your answer would be applicable. Joan

I have had a similar problem using the SD explorer. I am able to create and update the listing, and everything looks good while in SD Explorer, but when I plug the card into my 2600 it shows nothing and that xx% is used. If I format the card inthe keyboard and save one file to it, then restore the data tot he card using SD Explorer, it will show several "missing" or "bad" files. I say delete those files and then I cna read and use the card in the keyboard.

My guess is that the info file is getting corrupted somehow....but that is just a guess.

Bill

Hi there Bill
I haven't had this problem - I have a KN7 - not that that should make any differance. I believe Fran is successfully working the Explorer with the KN2600. When you say you are not getting anything do you mean you cannot see the names. and xx% is used. Do you mean literally that or does it show some number? Have you successfully used it at all? Joan

The 7000 Explorer works perfect with the 2600. 2600 and 7000 SD files are exactly the same. SD files saved on the 2600 make no reference to 2600, only 7000.

My only problem now is with my Computers USB 2. The write speed is not consistent.
However, even at the longest write speed it is the best way to manage SD's.

I will be changing the USB card in my computer.

Fran in Florida

I agree about the speed of the USB, as far as I am concerned this is something I will gladly accept as the ease of the rest of it is so good. Joan

Joan

The display in the 2600 shows no files, no folders, nothing available on the card. The top lines displays % used (for example 52% used).

I agree the card reader is also a factor. I have been more successful using a PNY reader (single) than a multi-reader of generic manufacturer. Perhaps this is a timing issue.

Bill

Bill

You say you have been more successful using a PNY reader (single). Can you clarify whether you have actually been able to use the SDExplorer then with this method or are you speaking generally? Joan

Bill,

I just formated an SD in the 2600 and saved a Test Song. I always format the SD on the 7000 or 2600 before using.

Put it in the computer reader and it reads Private, Technics, KN 7000 and Test Song.

I made some tests for Fred when he was developing the tool on my 2600. It was confusing to Fred and I when no 2600 came up. Technics used the same 7000 SD format for the 2600.

I changed from a dual reader Sandisk USB 1 to a PNY USB 2, SD and MMC reader. On first use it restored a 128 in about 1/2 hour, 5 times faster than the Sandisk USB 1. On my second use restoring the same 128 it took over 2 hours.

I know my problem lies in the computer USB card and not in the reader or 7000 Explorer. My computer is 2 years old and the USB has been a problem from the start.

It is important that your computer have a USB 2 card and the reader used also be USB 2. A miss match in card and reader speed will reduce the read times substantially.


Fran in Florida

Hi Bill,
It seems that you have the seem problem as that I have.
I suppose that we both use de reader only as reader, without the SD explorer demo.
I am curious what would be the solution, maybe that Joan of one of the other Technics fans can help us.
When this problem is solved,I buy me Fred's SD explorer

Jack

Hi Jack - I don't understand your thinking.

You say:

"It seems that you have the seem problem as that I have.
I suppose that we both use de reader only as reader, without the SD explorer demo."

EXACTLY - you are using the reader - only as a reader without the SD Explorer.

Send me the data you are trying to read - I will look at it in SDEX. Joan

Yes Joan, I think that I have problems with the reader first.
How should I send you ( by e mail )the data of the SD card, must I select all the items after opening the files PRIVAT-TECHNICS-KN7000 or should I send you the complete file PRIVAT ?

Jack

Hi Jack - send me the PRIVATE file - zip it first. If it is too large let me know at my email address. Joan

Joan,
I have been able to use the SDExplorer with the PNY reader. I have also been able to get some use out of the multi card "generic" reader. The PNY seems more reliable.

Fran,
The trick does seem to be to ALWAYS format the SD card in the keyboard and save one file to it, then use the SDExplorer to edit and save the files on the card. When I initilaized the card in the SDExplorer and did a restore, the 2600 could not read the card. It acted just fine in the SDExplorer. Whn I formatted the card in the keyboard and did the restore with the SDexplorer, the keyboard had no trouble reading the card.

I have found the tool extremely useful, just not without "quirks", perhaps all self induced. So far I have been able to find "work arounds"

Bill