Bert,
I may be wrong, but I think your problem is your moving of files on the computer. The 7000 needs a control file to properly load data. This is included when editing on the 7000 or, I am told, using Techmanager7000 software to edit.

I had similar problems using the computer to edit files. I now do everything on the 7000 with no problems but it is much slower.

This topic was discussed by Alec and others on this forum. A search should give you the answer.

I look forward to Alec's new book on the 7000 so that I will have a better understanding of the 7000 system and will probably order the Techmanager7000 Software at that time.

cheers,

Fran in Florida

What a complicated mess ! Most people reading this stuff would NOT buy a KN7000 as it sounds as though you need to be a rocket scientist to figure it out.
The KN7000 is a relatively simple machine to operate unless you get into all this mumbo jumbo. There are easy set-ups to satisfy the most fussy player.
It seems that in this modern world it is better to take the simple and make it complicated ! Lloyd

Hi Lloyd,
I agree,
it is a really simple keyboard to operate, but , it has some really great functions, that aren't (unfortunately) explained too well in the manual. We've been left to work some things out for ourselves.

It's a great keyboard that can be used just as is, but I suppose some of us want to explore it's hidden potential so that that we can set it up the way we want.

best wishes
Rikki

Hi Bert,
I haven't used the Custom Stylist, but I just loaded my Country files in, and I don't appear to have the problem.

Try pressing the following buttons
Program Menu
Control Menu
Music Style Arranger Mode
and see if it's set to " Sound & Rythm".
If not, try setting it to that, and see if it works then.
I accidently set mine to " Panel Memory " the other day, and ended up with it not working properly.

If it still doesn't work, email me privately and we'll try and work out what's gone wrong.

best wishes
Rikki

My guess is that the customs loaded are relying on the panel mems and/or sound mems which are not the same as on the creators board. I don't use styles much and only use ones I create in a,b,and c. mems So I am not a pro at this. But thats my input. When I load in tech mode The style in a,b,orc I load all panel mem, sound mem, everything with each tune. Custom has not been my favorite way of using styles. limited.
Tony

Just for your info Rikki, You don't need to go through the Program Menu, Control Menu, Music Style Arranger Mode sequence to set the MSA Mode - just press and hold MSA for a couple of seconds and the same screen will be displayed. It's one of the many useful shortcuts.

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Willum

When reloading a group of .ast custom styles into the custom memory I find it rather time
consuming. So as I load up each group now, I go through each of the 20 or less styles, decide which of them I know I shall use often.

Go to Programmme menus, select composer, next select custom style copy,then from the custom style box to memory bank a/b/c box, copy the first three desired styles into my composer memory. Before saving to my SD Card,I copy the registrations for each style from the variations 1-4 into Panel Memory A/B/C, 1-4.....on to the next three.

I no longer have to wait to load an .ast file
Just select the named file from the SD card
and it loads in seconds.

Incidentally, this can work in reverse. Select your favourite styles from your SD Card, load then into the composer memories a/b/c. Using the same procedure but reverse direction of the custom style box and memory
bank box and place the styles into custom 1/2/3 and so on. This method you can mix styles from previous KN's with commercial
styles saved on the SD Card.

Just an alternative way of using custom styles. Hope I have made this quite clear and keeping my fingers crossed it isn't a
repeat of another posting(g)

Shirley.

Shirley,

Good to see a post from you. It’s been a long time since I have heard a peep out of you. You sound just like Ruthie. Sometimes I take simple things and with my great analytical mind and wonderful power of deduction and I get screw up in my thinking. That is when I cry Ruthie, Oh RUTHIE! The magic word, Ruthie. Tightening her apron strings she comes to my side and says, ‘now what’? In my frustration I reply: Those crazy tech writers, I don’t think they understand all they know about this. Look, see if you can make heads or tails of this stupid thing and you’ll see what I mean. Now now my sweets, lets go to the kitchen table and take a look at the problem. OK, but I wish their boss would fire them and get somebody who can write these things in plain english so an ordinary guy could understand them. What jerks! Come on, sit. relax. Let’s see what the book says. Is this what’s got you so up tight? Hmmmm. Are you sure you read this. Yes, two or three times. Well hun, let me go back to the composer page like it says cus I don’t quite understand that and we’ll go from there. Well ya, sure. That makes sense. OK, lets go back and see if we can put it all together now. Well now, seems logical, lets go over to your baby for the acid test. Let me pull up a chair and we’ll give it a try. Let’s see, the book says this first. OK now push this button. Next? You got the disk in? OK. Now this, this and this! It works? Slowly rising from her chair Ruthie looks at me and says. I got other things to do. Next time read the book, not half of it. Now Shirley, comes your Quote. The quote that I think all girls either have learned in school or have been taught by their mothers. Quote: “Hope I have made this quite clear”.

Thanks Shirl, could we ever get along without a woman's touch?

Grandpa Doug

It is good to see that many response. This is a great forum!
Lloyd: it may look complicated to you but in fact it is very simple. I just want to use all the great possibilities of this keyboard. Music stylist is one of the features that should make the keyboard simple to operate. In my keyboard it does not work for grouped custom styles that are derived from different KN sources. I want to find out if this is a problem just in my keyboard or in all kn7's.
Rikki:
Yes, my MSA mode is "sound & Rythm". Please note that MSA works fine. The problem only occurs when I select from custom stylist. Maybe it is not a problem and just not possilble to use custom stylist with grouped custom styles from different KN sources. I can live with that but I like to know. I use your system of grouping styles so I will email you for some more comparison.
Shirley:
Thank you for your suggestion. Going through composer it is indeed the way for a quick load of preferred styles. I know this procedure but I want to have all available styles on my 128MB SD Card grouped into rythm groups to have them available when I look for the best suitable style for a song.

Please not that it is not such a big problem for me, I just want to learn all about my keyboard.
Bert

Hi Bert
I think I've found an answer to your problem. Custom styles loaded into Custom Memory are OK providing you dont use Music Stylist (Which I don't)
If you want Music Stylist to work correctly, then you need to load the Custom Style in No. 1 position and save the MSA variations into Panel Memories 1,2,3, & 4. Then copy the custom files into Composer A - then simply copy it back into Custom Panel. Then repeate for each Custom Style. Afterwards the Music Stylist will identify the correct Custom Style.
It's a long winded process but it WORKS.
I couldn't understand why my own favourite Custom Styles responded correctly when using Music Stylist - then I realized that they had all been copied from Composer to Custom Panel using my own settings in Panel Memories 1,2,3, & 4. not just downloaded straight in Custom Panel.
John