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#506046 - 06/28/22 11:28 AM First Korg Pa5x Video
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#506048 - 06/28/22 02:41 PM Re: First Korg Pa5x Video [Re: MusicalMemories]
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Please post the plain URL for this…
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#506049 - 06/28/22 02:47 PM Re: First Korg Pa5x Video [Re: MusicalMemories]
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#506053 - 06/30/22 12:29 AM Re: First Korg Pa5x Video [Re: MusicalMemories]
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#506054 - 06/30/22 12:33 AM Re: First Korg Pa5x Video [Re: MusicalMemories]
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Korg PA 5X Demos

I have just posted the links as not everybody can see embedded video.

Enjoy

Bill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny9sN1CTNRE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQaJklT5bUQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB2J4d-9H9U
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#506055 - 06/30/22 03:12 AM Re: First Korg Pa5x Video [Re: MusicalMemories]
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#506056 - 06/30/22 06:14 AM Re: First Korg Pa5x Video [Re: MusicalMemories]
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No longer worth posting links as you can just type Korg PA5x into YouTube and find a boatload available.
Had a listen to some of the videos (Using a sound system and headphones) and the sounds are fantastic, and this combined with the editing facilities should allow you to get whatever you want from them.
The sounds no longer cut off when changing them is good (But as most other manufactures have had this capability for years, it’s not exactly ground breaking) but 160 note polyphony seems rather low in this day and age. (Should be good enough for arranger play though)
Extra inputs, will the user actually use them when there are so many top notch mixers (With effects) available for a reasonable cost.
As to the rest of the keyboard, for me it’s just meh, with nothing screaming at me saying try me out. (I will of course try it out at some time)

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#506057 - 06/30/22 11:56 AM Re: First Korg Pa5x Video [Re: abacus]
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Originally Posted By abacus
No longer worth posting links as you can just type Korg PA5x into YouTube and find a boatload available....


Probably a good point of wiev, but I dare to post a couple more that may have some interest:

"Meet the KORG Pa5X" Video (21 minutes long)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2InFUgORHEo

KORG Pa5x Video Manual (10 parts)

Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwsyS-nWV2k

Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_0_LPr3RP4

Part 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RV2MR-KT38

Part 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmL3O5kO77s&t=4s

Part 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE0Uom3NNpE

Part 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydv3XglPwPQ

Part 7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hORggX_apfs

Part 8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePIALFotzhY

Part 9: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StLmcgfWygU

Part 10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVZqwMlvZvA

Sud Claviers demo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFlHXE4rI9Y

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#506059 - 06/30/22 12:57 PM Re: First Korg Pa5x Video [Re: MusicalMemories]
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I think the dual style player feature is pretty groundbreaking, especially when combined (if possible, I’ve yet to confirm this) with seamless style switching.

Of course, I don’t think any style makers have fully realized its implications, but it is the death knell for the old ‘4 variation and some fills’ paradigm that has ruled arrangers for decades. Rather than switching or blending between very different styles, this opens up the ability to have more subtle variation changes, more variety of fills, and even things like half-time and double time options without giving up your available variation changes.

Of everything I’ve seen so far, this is the only one I’d label TRULY ‘groundbreaking’. And unless Korg are hiding their light under a bushel, I don’t think they realize the implications of it themselves. For years I’ve been kind of ‘meh’ when it comes to styles, simply because four patterns and some fills rarely matches the variety of expression in real live and recorded music (at least in legacy music… modern music seems content with a far more restrictive selection!).

But literally unlimited style change live (because of seamless load style switching) and thanks to two style blending, in effect EIGHT Variations and eight fills and two breaks active at any one time - that’s quite the step up.

Like I said, I’m not sure style creators have yet realized this implication, but for those willing to roll their own, it’s not too technical a deal to take an existing style and change a few things, alter some fills, change a guitar pattern to one from another style, change a bassline or comp, save as a new style, then load that into one of the Player slots. And voilá! A far more diverse style to jam with…

Just speculating at this point until the things get used by real people, but if the Songbook can load both Players seamlessly on the fly (this is what I'm unsure of right now - I can see how loading one while another plays is doable, but what if both styles are playing?) it would be easy to extend this idea almost limitlessly.

I have to admit, this has got me curious. Anything that helps alleviate the boredom of repetitive styles is good in my book! I’ve been saying for decades that four variations don’t cut it. FINALLY someone fixes it. And hasn’t yet quite realized how it could change the landscape… 🎹😎
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#506065 - 06/30/22 10:06 PM Re: First Korg Pa5x Video [Re: Diki]
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Originally Posted By Diki


But literally unlimited style change live (because of seamless load style switching) and thanks to two style blending, in effect EIGHT Variations and eight fills and two breaks active at any one time - that’s quite the step up.


In case you missed it, Groovyband Live! (since 2018) has styles with NATIVE structure comprising 8 main variations, 8 fills and 2 breaks (as well as 3 intros and endings).

You can easily create your own custom variations by mixing patterns from other variations for each part, applying mutes, changing voices (including edits) and DSPs to every single part of each variation (or fill, break, intro, ending).

On top of this it has 8x2 OTSes, as well as seamless OTS switch. It also allows 2 series connected insert DSPs on all parts (on Genos and Montage who have enough DSP power).
It also has many other features that probably PA5X (and any other arranger) does not have. Everything editable in realtime from the touch UI.

Groovyband Live! plays on MODX/Montage and any other half-decent Yamaha arranger (PSR, Tyros, Genos), being an effective upgrade for those users.

There is also a clear and well written online manual which is responsive: it adapts to any screen size (by reorganizing the page layout) so that it can be read from smartphones to desktop monitors.

In one thing Groovyband Live! cannot compete: marketing money.
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