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#500536 - 09/04/20 04:48 PM Re: Korg Pa1000/ PA4X being replaced soon? [Re: rolandfan]
rb293 Offline
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I agree with you Nick G. I said it in an earlier post the Yamaha just sounds thin to me no matter what you do.. The Korg has a fuller sound and that is the reason I got rid of the Genos... Ron

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#500537 - 09/04/20 06:57 PM Re: Korg Pa1000/ PA4X being replaced soon? [Re: rb293]
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Ron, I agree with you about Yamaha having the thinner sound. My needs are not for playing out, but for home use; I like a thinner richer sound for my home.

If I were to play out again, I would have another Pa4x.
John C.

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#500575 - 09/09/20 03:59 AM Re: Korg Pa1000/ PA4X being replaced soon? [Re: Nick G]
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Originally Posted By Nick G


In my opinion where Yamaha arrangers fall short is that the overall sound lacks "guts" and "punch"... its a "soft" sound that just cant be "fixed" in anyway. It may work for other genres such as acoustic, easy listening unplugged type music, but for EDM its not good enough no matter how you look at it - all I can assume is that the samples them selves are compressed and stripped of their quality to shave off the amount of data and computing power required in PSR and Tyros/Genos keyboards... and all this becomes very much more evident when you turn off the insert effect and also route the sound through a decent PA system or monitoring speakers/headphones (not the speakers that come with the keyboards).

Where Yamaha falls short as above - Korg shines. overall it has that punch, that clarity, that overall "oomf" that is required in the sound, BUT... sadly it does lack the overall variety of content that you get in the yamaha for EDM... The PA4X doesn't have enough of the modernly used samples such as Hooks, stabs, plucks, leads, pumping pads etc- where yamaha have nailed it.




I agree with this. In amongst the variety & quantity of EDM / Dance & Disco type styles on Yamaha's boards, it doesn't make up the fact that they sound artificial to me, and I still think it's mainly in the drums though I think the blandness of only having 4 bar'd styles, bass line seem basic & repetitive compared to Korg & Ketron. Even with how much Yamaha have improved in the drums, to my ears they still sound unrealistic, unnatural & plastic sounding when comparing them to others. I didn't really notice this as much until I started to own and use more than one brand. The Yamaha's do have some fantastic sounds and I think that's where Yamaha's strength has always been.

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#500576 - 09/09/20 04:06 AM Re: Korg Pa1000/ PA4X being replaced soon? [Re: 124]
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Registered: 12/09/99
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Originally Posted By 124
Korg's TOTL cycle was every four years. i30 in 1999, Pa1x in 2003, Pa2x in 2007, Pa3x in 2011, Pa4x in 2015. So here we are five years on, but still no new board from them. Either they've been hindered by the pandemic, or have tended to focus on lower models, EK-50, new i3 etc., or they've got something a bit special up their sleeve. As always, only time will tell.


You may have to squash the PA80 in there somewhere as I went from the i30, to the PA80 then PA1x.

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#500580 - 09/09/20 08:58 AM Re: Korg Pa1000/ PA4X being replaced soon? [Re: rolandfan]
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Ah yes, I'd forgotten the Pa80. When did that appear? I remember thinking that the Pa80 looked toy-ish after the pro look of the i30. Still got my i30, btw.

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#500582 - 09/09/20 11:07 AM Re: Korg Pa1000/ PA4X being replaced soon? [Re: rolandfan]
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You need a certain volume of sales to maintain a set schedule for new models. And Korg rather upset that schedule with the NEXT OS which could have legitimately been simply a new model (it’s amazing how little new sound or style content arranger players are willing to accept in a new model) and no-one would be talking about an overdue schedule...

I think, were I a Korg user, I’d just be grateful Korg gave me a new arranger for free (and a bunch of really good styles as freeware)!
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#500747 - 09/22/20 02:22 AM Re: Korg Pa1000/ PA4X being replaced soon? [Re: rolandfan]
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quiet a few fake videos of a pa5x have appeared online.

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#500750 - 09/22/20 02:56 AM Re: Korg Pa1000/ PA4X being replaced soon? [Re: rolandfan]
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#500752 - 09/22/20 11:53 AM Re: Korg Pa1000/ PA4X being replaced soon? [Re: rolandfan]
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Registered: 09/20/02
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After 6 years on the 3X, I sold and moved to the 1000 (needed something new and access to styles). I miss the key bed, but this little board has so much power. And yes, Korg creating free styles is just fantastic.
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