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#498723 - 06/14/20 08:09 AM Re: Younger generation no interest in arrangers [Re: Steve A]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By Steve A
Originally Posted By dud
STEVE you can make your own styles if you are creative enough . sequencer and looper are basicly the same basic idea 'you can add voices in the loop technic which is uniq in the looper ,byt thats is.


I'm sure I could, but where to start? I bought the board SO I WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT...



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#498724 - 06/14/20 08:25 AM Re: Younger generation no interest in arrangers [Re: Dnj]
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#498725 - 06/14/20 08:27 AM Re: Younger generation no interest in arrangers [Re: Dnj]
W Tracy Parnell Offline
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Donny,

So, are you getting a looper instead of an arranger then?

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#498726 - 06/14/20 08:30 AM Re: Younger generation no interest in arrangers [Re: W Tracy Parnell]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By W Tracy Parnell
Donny,

So, are you getting a looper instead of an arranger then?


Nope not me, ....just showing Steve alternatives in
creating songs with today's gear such as the looper.
I have come to the conclusion for my needs it will
always be an arranger with vocals.

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#498727 - 06/14/20 08:38 AM Re: Younger generation no interest in arrangers [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj


A looper is a great option and I hope the include them in arranger keyboards. But I do feel a looper such as the one in the video is good for songs that have only a few chords and no bridges or chorus. There's plenty of modern songs fit that structure though.
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#498728 - 06/14/20 08:38 AM Re: Younger generation no interest in arrangers [Re: montunoman]
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#498732 - 06/14/20 09:13 AM Re: Younger generation no interest in arrangers [Re: Dnj]
Bill Lewis Offline
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Originally Posted By Dnj


You know I just watched that and said "so what" Same thing could be done with a simple Style, maybe not exact bass line but close I'm sure. As I said there is a guy here with a two neck bass/guitar who does that and its entertaining to watch but not for long.
And what happens when you go to the Bridge, Intro, Ending ? No flexibility.
Whatever happened to multitrack recorders?
Am I missing something ???


Edited by Bill Lewis (06/14/20 09:14 AM)
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#498733 - 06/14/20 09:47 AM Re: Younger generation no interest in arrangers [Re: Dnj]
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I do what my generation did with music. The next generation will do what they will do with music. What they do doesn't, and won't, concern me. I've had a lifetime of fun out of it, and I hope they'll achieve the same.

On looping and such, in the words of Shania Twain, "That Don't Impress Me Much."

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#498738 - 06/14/20 10:26 AM Re: Younger generation no interest in arrangers [Re: Bill Lewis]
Fran Carango Offline
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Originally Posted By Bill Lewis
Originally Posted By Dnj


You know I just watched that and said "so what" Same thing could be done with a simple Style, maybe not exact bass line but close I'm sure. As I said there is a guy here with a two neck bass/guitar who does that and its entertaining to watch but not for long.
And what happens when you go to the Bridge, Intro, Ending ? No flexibility.
Whatever happened to multitrack recorders?
Am I missing something ???




Bill I am in total agreement with you..

With the same type of effort, using the arranger style composer you can duplicate this and easily add variation for verses, bridge etc.

Even if you want a sparse drums and bass line style.


Nothing annoys me more than a 1-4 measure loop.. the folks think are so great.. To make a song worth using you would have to arrange multiple loops together.

This is why workstations are called workstations.. The pattern based sequencer is the heart of the high end workstations.. in conjunction with an arpeggio feature.. (yuk, yuk, yuk).

Bill your BK9 would outshine everything in that video. smile
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#498739 - 06/14/20 10:35 AM Re: Younger generation no interest in arrangers [Re: Fran Carango]
Dnj Offline
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The problem is that you have to first get the younger generation to buy an arranger keyboard which isn't going to happen and there lies the problem otherwise you could talk to your blue in the face..

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