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#498457 - 06/10/20 01:25 PM
Re: Now We WAIT !
[Re: TedS]
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Registered: 11/12/08
Posts: 2457
Loc: Bluffton/Hilton Head SC USA
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It would be neat if they were to finally integrate Steven Kay's "Karma." Or at least SOMETHING, with some degree of randomness.
I'm not talking about playing random wrong notes. Just some paramaters to humanize the arranger's performance. As far as I know, none of the brands have ever attempted this. If it sounded a little different every time, or "evolved" in some random way, I might be tempted to keep practicing, just to see what happened next. And obviously a way to turn it off, for studio musicians or live performers.
When the instrument inspires you to keep playing, you know that you have something
very special! I asked this same question a while back. My old Roland CR80 drum machine had an adjustable random function which alterted the timing and drum hits. Not a lot but helped give it a live feel. Why can't Arrangers take the next step and add something more powerful in Styles. Seems simple to do to me ???
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#498471 - 06/10/20 04:16 PM
Re: Now We WAIT !
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 11/11/04
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Loc: Russia
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As I can see it, Yamaha has the most success with PSR-S670 as an arranger, MX61 as a synthesizer, P125 as a piano and DGX-660 as a hybrid. These products are below $1000 and offer convincing sound. For less than $500 Roland offers XPS-10 as a synthesizer and GO:Piano as a very portable piano, and people appreciate it. KORG decided to go into entry-level as well, EK-50 and i3 are the result of that decision. Casio has always been an entry-level player; somehow they know how to get their keyboards to the shelfs of stores which are not musically-oriented. Perhaps Casio is the most popular “my first keyboard”.
Today we see some development in entry-entry level which is reincarnation of Casiotone and Yamaha PSS, these are below $300…
Those who work mostly in studios are now all about VST, this is not news; for young enthusiasts “FL Studio” is like where everything starts.
Personally I often want a new arranger, sometimes it even makes me angry and jealous that I don’t have one, which is my weak and dark side (weakness and darkness do go hand-in-hand); but I also notice that I already have too much arrangers in my life and when I put my PSR away and leave only guitar and digital piano (I see my Juno DS 76 as one) I feel much better and occupied. I’m not going to get rid of an arranger, but it’s nice not to be dependent on it.
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#498474 - 06/10/20 04:41 PM
Re: Now We WAIT !
[Re: Kabinopus]
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Registered: 09/21/00
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As I can see it, Yamaha has the most success with PSR-S670 as an arranger, MX61 as a synthesizer, P125 as a piano and DGX-660 as a hybrid. These products are below $1000 and offer convincing sound. For less than $500 Roland offers XPS-10 as a synthesizer and GO:Piano as a very portable piano, and people appreciate it. KORG decided to go into entry-level as well, EK-50 and i3 are the result of that decision. Casio has always been an entry-level player; somehow they know how to get their keyboards to the shelfs of stores which are not musically-oriented. Perhaps Casio is the most popular “my first keyboard”.
Today we see some development in entry-entry level which is reincarnation of Casiotone and Yamaha PSS, these are below $300…
Those who work mostly in studios are now all about VST, this is not news; for young enthusiasts “FL Studio” is like where everything starts.
Personally I often want a new arranger, sometimes it even makes me angry and jealous that I don’t have one, which is my weak and dark side (weakness and darkness do go hand-in-hand); but I also notice that I already have too much arrangers in my life and when I put my PSR away and leave only guitar and digital piano (I see my Juno DS 76 as one) I feel much better and occupied. I’m not going to get rid of an arranger, but it’s nice not to be dependent on it. Good thoughts been there many times but always seem to return to an arranger... A 76 key arranger fits all the spaces.. if you don't want the arranger just shut off the auto Styles and play it as a piano, etc, ...
Edited by Dnj (06/10/20 04:42 PM)
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