Currently Arranger-less & in a crunch had to sell my PA 4x...Was gonna reorder one yesterday & guess what? The credit limits for Company I use went down OVERNIGHT from 4k to 3k because of the crisis. PA 4x 76 is now priced out of budget. Gonna get the PA 1000 and accessories which takes you to 3k...I've come to grips with the budget....

BUT, I think it is in the Master plan..I wanted speakers since we are all at home and grandkids are at that age to appreciate music.

Plus as a Songwriter I know the new instrument has songs in it waiting for me to create. Songwriting WILL BE THE MAIN FUNCTION...

My question is...what will I miss?

It looks like no E-5 foot switch input which I still have...So no foot pedal at all for fills?

I'm sure keybed is different as I had a 76...

Will I miss too much?

Buying sight unseen and I'm sure I'll find out more...But my main use is as a SONGWRITER ...

Any deal breakers I should consider?

Steve,
I am a 4x owner, and like you, I thought the 1000 would be a suitable "baby" version. I can only speak for myself, but I was very unimpressed with the 1000. I WANTED to love it, but just didn't. The keybed was squishy .... not even as good as my PA900, and I had serious doubts about letting others play it for fear they'd press too hard and damage the keys. The overall sound was good, but not stellar. The lack of an EC5 jack presented issues for triggering certain effects. The 1/4" jack didn't work as I wished for harmony trigger either. One good improvement is the touch screen. It's as responsive as my iPads. I hated the color ... and I usually LOVE all things red - in any shade. This one is more plum than burgundy, and it just matches ..... well, NOTHING. I hate to poo poo on your upcoming decision, but you asked. The harmonizer is on par with the 900, but not the 4x. The build quality of the case is about the same as the 900, but again .... the 4x is a solid, roadworthy beast. My biggest concern was the keybed, and the sound system just didn't have the "wow" factor for me. To be honest - except for the screen, I preferred my 900 over the 1000. Just my thoughts - your milage may vary. Good luck with your choice.

Just wait a new KORG is on the Horizon.

+1 agree with Dave I had two 1000's and a 700 too.

I had the 4X (a couple times) and a 1000. The 1000 is a very good board, but the keys are nowhere near the 4. The girth is very large and I felt was more difficult to transport. As a piano player your are, not sure you would like the keys. A lot of guys on here love the board though.

Not to get in trouble again for asking a question, but where are you getting this info?

Hi Zuki,
Bachus mentioned something about it on one of the sd7 threads, not sure which one.
Maybe check Korg forums, Ithink that’s where he mentioned he heard some chatter.

There's ALWAYS something new on the horizon ...
My advice: do your research and make a decision based on what's available today. Nothing is promised for tomorrow. Not just now - that's always the way it's been.

I did like the keys on the 1000, but I don't like heavy keys.
I never got it to sound like I wanted it to sound. I missed many of the controls on the 4x.
The VH was o.k., but not nearly as good as 4x.
I really tried to like it but never came to terms with it. I had the 900 sounding better, but maybe it was just me.
Scott Yee LOVES the 1000.
No doubt it's a fine arranger, and if I hadn't previously had the 4x, I might have kept it longer.

So I lost the Superstar model (PA 4X)...Now what do I replace her with?

Potential Lifetime Partner? (TOTL Arranger) Just like a life partner I ain't got the money for a top end anything...I AIN'T LOOKING TO GET LOCKED DOWN

Steady Girlfriend...PA 1000, OR YAMAHA SRX 900..Knowing she ain't the top model but is close enough & better yet, I can afford her...I would have no problem walking away from her

Booty Call, CHEAP & always available........YAMAHA SRX 700 ? YAMAHA BK 5 ? EA7....PA 700 ??? etc etc....

Hi Rikki,

Yes, I remember Bachus' info and I haven't checked in at the other forum yet, but no hurry anyway. I have my hands full trying to return the DOA recorder I bought arggg. More interested in recording these days instead of learning another board (although I am interested in the EA-7). I think I'm just bored

Hi Steve, I now own my 3rd Pa4x, and a Yamaha Sx900. Your question is based on individual needs and desires.
Dave and the others offer good impute. Let me share you mine.

Pa4x: I have another pa4x for two reasons.
1-It is such a fantastic keyboard; it offers so much ---- for playing gigs!
2-Right now am using the Pa4x to save me from lock down; boredom.

I had a Tyros2 years ago. My all-time favorite was the Technics Kn7000, so you know where I am coming from. I owned the Korg pa800, Pa900, Pa1000, and the Pa4x. One thing I notice after buying a Sx900, is that most of my recordings/sequences were not done on my Korg keyboards; they were done with a Yamaha Psr2100, and a Tyros 2.

Yamaha has the most styles available, and the best support system. The instrument sounds are fantastic. Years aga they compared Yamaha’s sound like listening to a high-quality CD. I agree with that. The Sx900 is giving me a feeling to create. I do not get that same feeling with a Korg product. I no longer play out, so the next best thing is to create. (my opinion)

Prices: Buy a pre-owned keyboard from a reliable dealer, or someone you know. You get so much more for the same dollars. Buy with a return privilege.

Steve, if you were to post one of recordings/sequences, your question would be better answered. We need to know more about you.

Hope this opinion helps, John C.

This Song was written on & was done ALL on the PA4 X except for the Acoustic Guitars & electric lead guitar, maybe one pad in introduction from an old Triton Extreme...

Originally was thinking of grabbing the Yamaha PSX 900 and ALMOST lead the thread with that...LOL...I've only owned Korgs my whole life, never a YAMAHA. I know the Korg OS...

I Give My Life To You

Hi Steve,
really happy with my Sx900. Styles suit me better than the Pa4x ones did.

I have my yamaha p121 connected via laptop/midi to Sx900, only because I prefer fully weighted keys, plus it gives me 73 notes vs 61.

Only time I miss Pa4x is when I need a technology fix ( recovering style junkie),
the style editing functions on korgs brilliant, Yamaha not so good.

Try and check one out before you decide. If deciding between Sx900/SX700, there are some differences, so check those out too.

Hi Zuki,
did you ever get additional styles for your pa3x? I had a library floating round somewhere. I could check and see if I can find it.
Maybe doing some style editing , or something might give you something different to try, while stuck at home.

Sorry to hear your recorder didn’t work out.

That is why if the difference is too great between the PA 4X & the PA 1000 I may just wanna go with a different type of girl & go Yamaha 900 PSX

Hi Steve,
My main keyboards since 2008 have been the 3 korgs , pa 800, pa3x, Pa4x.
I had a psr s950 during those years, but , never really played it much, I just used it as a source for converting styles to Korg.

I was vaguely familiar with operating system, but, really just learnt the basics to give me what I needed, ie load a style, create a song in step time that I then imported into the korg to create a Korg style.

I decided I actually wanted to start playing, Yamaha styles were the ones that suited me best, so decided to get the keyboard who’s styles I liked, rather than keep on going trying to turn my Korg into a Yamaha.

Took me a couple of weeks to familiarise myself with the Yamaha operating system, because it had changed even from the psr s950 I previously owned.

The korg and the Yamaha do sort of have some things in common .

The one thing I thought I would really miss was my ec5 pedal board. I’m not the fastest at pressing buttons , for variations and fills etc so I used the board.

The Yamaha only has the 2 pedal inputs.

Anyway , the great thing I discovered on the yamahas are the registrations. I was able to save the data I needed for a song on up to up to 8 different registration buttons, and a registration sequence, and I just needed the one pedal, to get me thru a song.

I think over the years on the forums, I came across more Yamaha players that had difficulty adapting to korg’s , than vice versa.

You really should try one first, or find a store that will take returns if you don’t like it, just in case you don’t like it.

You have Yamaha fans, you have Korg fans, some adapt nicely, some don’t.

Good luck with your hunt.

Steve, thank you, voice is excellent, and the arrangement sounds good.

Went to you tube, played three different versions. Each version had the type of sound I hear in the churches I have been in: a lighter sound with strings or choir, a surround type of sound.

No judgement here, which sounds better is up to the person who is recording the song.

My take on what I am hearing:
The Pa4x is a darker heavier sound, The Yamaha is more like what I heard on YouTube. But you are right, there is a learning curve to deal with.
It would be nice to hear your thoughts on this.
John C.

I know me and it looks like neither the Yammy or the PA1000 will make me happy. I think I may go back to the ole workstation as I have some songs that maybe need a more modern sound....

This ROLAND FATHOM 6 looks GREAT for Songwriting & has all the latest stuff and will see a DAW...

Maybe I can get it for 3K?? I have credit with them for 3K, so I won't be buying used at this time...

Oh it also has rthym patterns I can use...Not an Arranger, but man this is so, so powerful. Just keeping an open mind....Look at how you create songs if you check out the videos...I think I can do this and update the sound for worship

ROLAND FANTOM 6

Steve your best choice yet The NEW Roland Fantom
is a songwriting dream come true.Good luck.

https://www.roland.com/us/products/fantom_series/

Definately did...

People on Korg forums claim to have seen the next Korg arranger as long back as early 2019.. ithey where at the sound design phase..

Cant imagine it to be planned much later then Musikmesse, which was supposed to be this week..

But then with the whole corona situation in Italy, you can not be sure about anything really..

I wouldn't count on ANYTHING scheduled to remain ON schedule, due to the tremendous delays that are caused by the state of the world economy.
I'm an eternal optimist, and I'm not crying "the sky is falling" ... I'm just saying that I wouldn't be surprised if almost everything that has been planned doesn't go through at least a slight modification to those plans. Stay flexible, but be realistic - this is a whole new ball game for all commerce.

Musikmesse is cancelled this year I would think also?

Musikmesse been cancelled for a month or so

However this should not influence the release date
Yet Corona probably does..

Its probably save to asume that it shall be September or later before we see any new products from Korg Italy

Probably summer Namm
2020 also canceled too

Hi Rikki, I have a lot of styles floating around here too, but mostly from the Korg site. Always happy to take a look at styles for the 3X. Honestly, I haven't gone through a lot of the onboard ones yet, although I do use quite a few, in weird ways sometimes Thanks for your generosity

Yes, the seller is ignoring me, so I had to file a claim. It was DOA and she said I screwed it up (please). Thank goodness I only spent $150 to recoup. I don't go for big ticket stuff anymore from eBay - too risky, not to mention awful fees.