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#491305 - 03/10/20 01:33 PM
Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru
[Re: Scott Langholff]
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I just had one cancel. One resident came down with flu like symptoms,and before they knew,they were nearly all sick. I miss my hugs and handshakes,but I guess that is the way it will be for a while.
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#491314 - 03/10/20 02:58 PM
Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru
[Re: Scott Langholff]
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Isn't it amazing how the media hype goes absolutely nuts trying to instill fear in people with something they know the average person has absolutely no control over the situation. When I was working in the media world, the old saying was "If it bleeds - it leads." Keep in mind that over my lifespan there have been far more infections diseases that got little of no press coverage to speak of. For example, there is nothing more contagious than TB, and Baltimore held the title of have the highest rate of TB than anyplace on the planet back in the 1960s when I was first married and working in the medical field. Once a week, I traveled to one of Baltimore's TB Sanitariums to draw blood and do blood gas analysis on TB Patients in Mount Wilson Hospital. The mortality rate at that time was horrendous, patients spend on average at lest a year in the hospital and some, including one of my aunts, spent 2 years there. She managed to survive. When I went to draw blood at Mount Wilson, I wore a scrub suit, gloves, special mask, hat, booties, gown and changed gloves between each and every patient contact. After doing all the bloodwork, I then went into a decontamination room, stripped down, took a hot shower and all my work clothes were bagged and incinerated. Then I walked into another room where my street clothes were in a locker with an ultra-violet light inside it. Yes, TB is that contagious. Keep in mind that in the history of this nation we have lived through yellow fever, typhoid, TB, swine flu, mad cow disease, Ebola virus, you name it, it has been here, and for the most part, managed to survive pretty much unscathed. Eventually, someone comes up with a vaccine and the virus is pretty much eliminated until it morphs into a new and more deadly virus. Nursing homes in my part of the world usually close for a couple weeks every year, mainly because of another highly contagious disease - C-Diff. C-Differential is a highly contagious infection of the colon that kills thousands of elderly people ever year. It is very, very contagious, most people that contract this disease are placed in isolation rooms where they go through the most horrendous bout of dysentery for up to a month, loose enormous amounts of weight and dehydrate. It's a horrendous disease - I should know, I've been through it. I had enough music jobs though that loosing one or two a month just didn't amount to a hill of beans. This virus is contagious, but not nearly as contagious as others we've experienced. Just use a common sense approach, wash your hands and face frequently, and stay away from individuals that have symptoms of a URI and you will likely go unscathed with this one as well. Good luck, Gary
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#491315 - 03/10/20 03:02 PM
Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru
[Re: Scott Langholff]
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I read this online, and make no claims to it's validity, but I like the jist of it.
"I'm a doctor and an Infectious Diseases Specialist. I've been at this for more than 20 years seeing sick patients on a daily basis. I have worked in inner city hospitals and in the poorest slums of Africa. HIV-AIDS, Hepatitis,TB, SARS, Measles, Shingles, Whooping cough, Diphtheria...there is little I haven't been exposed to in my profession. And with notable exception of SARS, very little has left me feeling vulnerable, overwhelmed or downright scared.
I am not scared of Covid-19. I am concerned about the implications of a novel infectious agent that has spread the world over and continues to find new footholds in different soil. I am rightly concerned for the welfare of those who are elderly, in frail health or disenfranchised who stand to suffer mostly, and disproportionately, at the hands of this new scourge. But I am not scared of Covid-19.
What I am scared about is the loss of reason and wave of fear that has induced the masses of society into a spellbinding spiral of panic, stockpiling obscene quantities of anything that could fill a bomb shelter adequately in a post-apocalyptic world. I am scared of the N95 masks that are stolen from hospitals and urgent care clinics where they are actually needed for front line healthcare providers and instead are being donned in airports, malls, and coffee lounges, perpetuating even more fear and suspicion of others. I am scared that our hospitals will be overwhelmed with anyone who thinks they " probably don't have it but may as well get checked out no matter what because you just never know..." and those with heart failure, emphysema, pneumonia and strokes will pay the price for overfilled ER waiting rooms with only so many doctors and nurses to assess.
I am scared that travel restrictions will become so far reaching that weddings will be canceled, graduations missed and family reunions will not materialize. And well, even that big party called the Olympic Games...that could be kyboshed too. Can you even imagine?
I'm scared those same epidemic fears will limit trade, harm partnerships in multiple sectors, business and otherwise and ultimately culminate in a global recession.
But mostly, I'm scared about what message we are telling our kids when faced with a threat. Instead of reason, rationality, openmindedness and altruism, we are telling them to panic, be fearful, suspicious, reactionary and self-interested.
Covid-19 is nowhere near over. It will be coming to a city, a hospital, a friend, even a family member near you at some point. Expect it. Stop waiting to be surprised further. The fact is the virus itself will not likely do much harm when it arrives. But our own behaviors and "fight for yourself above all else" attitude could prove disastrous.
I implore you all. Temper fear with reason, panic with patience and uncertainty with education. We have an opportunity to learn a great deal about health hygiene and limiting the spread of innumerable transmissible diseases in our society. Let's meet this challenge together in the best spirit of compassion for others, patience, and above all, an unfailing effort to seek truth, facts and knowledge as opposed to conjecture, speculation and catastrophizing.
Facts not fear. Clean hands. Open hearts. Our children will thank us for it."
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#491319 - 03/10/20 03:35 PM
Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru
[Re: Scott Langholff]
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Registered: 12/22/02
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Loc: NSW,Australia
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Hi Dave, That post says it all.
We’ve had 3 deaths here, and they were all elderly. Roughly in their 80’s /90’s.
The young kids and babies haven’t been affected, and that’s one age grouping that they usually worry about with flu.
What the media doesn’t tell you over here, is the survival rate, the amount of people who have actually gotten over it. They just just want to keep spreading the fear, by telling everyone how many got it overnight and how many died around the world.
If the Chinese are actually telling us the truth, woke up this morning and heard on the news that their rate of contracting the disease and deaths , is going down rapidly. More of a seasonal problem, and that things might be improving with warming weather. Hopefully not a lie.
Same crazies over here, hoarding toilet paper, hand sanitizer and tissues. Had a mother and daughter charged with brawling in a supermarket the other day.. Trolley stacked to the brim with toilet paper, and some other poor woman just wanted a pack. They started to beat her up. Limit was 4 packs, but they had a trolley full., limit now is 1 or 2 packs . Crazy part is they make the stuff in Sydney, a few miles away.
Kind of reminds me of these zombie horror movies , humanity going nuts,
Half expected my grocery delivery guy to be carrying a shotgun, just in case the delivery truck got hijacked for the toilet paper, might become a more dangerous job than driving an armoured truck , full of cash. ( just joking, we aren’t allowed to own firearms).
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#491323 - 03/10/20 04:44 PM
Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru
[Re: Scott Langholff]
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Loc: English Riviera, UK
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Follow medical advice as they will be the best to tell you what is going on.
All of the above say that youngsters are sound, as are fit people, however if you have underlying medical problems then make sure to take precautionary measures, as you are a high risk category.
The biggest problem is that you can be infected and contagious for 5 days before you show any symptoms, thus you can pass it on without even knowing about it.
Like all these things it is fine balance between what you do, and don’t do, and is very difficult to get 100% right.
As I said at the beginning, follow the medical expert’s advice and we should get through it.
Bill
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#491358 - 03/11/20 10:55 AM
Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru
[Re: Scott Langholff]
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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What I find amazing is that more than 10,000 people just returned home from the Conservative Political Action Conference, one person there tested positive for Carona Virus, yet no one other than that person has become ill. Ironically, the old press moto "If it bleeds -it leads" is still going strong. Nearly every channel on TV is beating on this drum 24/7 and now you cannot purchase hand wipes on Amazon or in the grocery stores - they're sold out! Kinda like the weather forecast when the forecaster calls for snow. Yep, gotta stock up in bread, milk and toilet paper before that snow hits. Snow must make people poop more than usual. Gary
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#491401 - 03/12/20 07:48 AM
Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru
[Re: sparky589]
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Who wants to go to a flyers game anyway? Most of you know I'm not a pro sports fan, but this game is a Christmas present from my son, and he, and HIS son, and I went last year, too. It was a blast! Major league hockey games are like full scale rock concerts with incredible audio and light shows. For me - it's all about the boys. My grandson is a big rime Gritty fan, (Flyers mascot) and watching his excitement is super contagious. (poor choice of words, given the reason for this post?) Anyway - it's not about the game - it's about the grandson, the son, and the LIGHTSABERS!!!!!!! Now, I'm sad again.
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#491418 - 03/12/20 11:53 AM
Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru
[Re: Uncle Dave]
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#491437 - 03/12/20 09:52 PM
Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru
[Re: Scott Langholff]
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Well now it looks like I'm going to have even more time to practice and put together a show! Just wonder how long do you all think this is going to last?
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#491446 - 03/13/20 08:12 AM
Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru
[Re: Scott Langholff]
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#491466 - 03/13/20 01:10 PM
Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru
[Re: btweengigs]
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Registered: 01/14/02
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Loc: Buffalo, NY
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Just got a call from one under lockdown wanting to know if I could do a "virtual show" using a computer, ipad, phone, etc. They said they have a hook up from their computer and can project to a large movie screen. Now that is thinking outside the box. They haven't told me what platform they use....could be Hangouts, Facebook Messenger, maybe Facetime. I have to find out more. Intriguing. Ed This virus will probably have companies thinking of new and cheaper ways to conduct business over the internet. With faster internet speeds 5g, etc. there will be less travel, more telephone and video conferencing, and now entertainment. Our local music store has downsized into a smaller place, and doing business over the internet. I am using them to sell off all my unused equipment on line. I take it to them, agree on a price and collect when it is sold. No hassle, no shipping and no one coming to my house. All the local food stores and restaurants are offering online ordering and delivery, and drive-thru pick up. I ordered a pizza the other day, and never saw or spoke to a live person. When I picked up my pizza it was in a hot display case. I punched in my order number, the door opened, and out came my pizza. The times they are a changing. Jerryghr
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#491485 - 03/13/20 06:42 PM
Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru
[Re: Scott Langholff]
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I've gotten email notices from three different service companies that their offices/service centers will be closed to walk-in customer service (paying bills, etc.) and that all such customer services will now have to be done online. This doesn't really affect me personally or the more tech-savvy seniors that populate this particular forum, but many elderly customers are not so tech-savvy (some don't even own computers) and still pay their bills, voice their complaints or requests for service, in person. Grandkids to the rescue, I suppose . Of course this will also affect the people who work in these service centers as well. I stopped by the local Walmart early this morning hoping to beat the store traffic. No luck. The parking lot was filled to overflow at 8:30am. Shelves half bare, some totally bare. No toilet paper but plenty of ExLax (apparently nobody needs that ). Boy, sure hope this passes quickly (the virus, I mean - poor choice of words ). Stay safe everyone, wash your hands often and don't touch your ugly mug . chas
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#491493 - 03/13/20 07:52 PM
Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru
[Re: tony mads usa]
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We did some everyday shopping today ... One thing I don't understand is the run on paper products like paper towels, napkins, toilet paper ... shelves in Walmart and a super sized market were BARE !!! +1 Tony - I went to Walmart yesterday looking for anything resembling hand sanitizer.... ha ha… fat chance of that. It was like a war zone in there. Bare shelves everywhere and 8-10 people lined up to ask the pharmacist questions. I was going to try to make my own homebrew sanitizer - 2 parts Alcohol, 1 part Aloe Gel... but neither item to be found at Walmart for my experiment! Fortunately, on the way home, I took a chance and stopped at a Dollar Tree store... and it was my lucky day - they had just put out a case of 2-packs of the 2 oz hand sanitizer bottles... $1 a piece for 2 bottles! Bonus! I got several of them at a great price. One of the clerks said they had stocked 22 cases yesterday and I got the last few packages. What is really scary is the self-proclaimed "entrepreneurs" who are cleaning the shelves as quick as items are stocked - and then listing $3 bottles of Purell for $149 a pop on Ebay. Very very sad indeed. Scary times these are. Be safe out there y'all!
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#491510 - 03/14/20 10:22 AM
Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru
[Re: Scott Langholff]
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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Just how contagious is the Carona Virus? Keep in mind that one of those gigantic cruise ships that ended up circling offshore for several days had just 21 cases, 19 of which were crew and 2 passengers tested positive. This out of more than 4,000 passengers crammed into a floating sardine can. Nearly everyone came in contact with an infected person, yet only 2 passengers actually tested positive. One of the medical professionals stated yesterday that the mist from a contagious cough would only carry about 5 feet and 6 feet at best, then dissipate. Additionally, there have been no mortalities in people over 50 years of age, worldwide.
The actual mortality rate is an unknown factor at this point, mainly because at the present time, it is only based upon reported cases. Medical specialist stated that there are likely many times more unreported cases, due to the fact that this merely mimics the common cold, for which people rarely see a physician, stay home, take aspirin and allow it to take it's course. After 10 days, the patient feels OK and goes about their regular, daily routine.
There seems to be more arm-chair specialists with absolutely no medical background or training making brash statements about this disease, especially in the press, where the motto is "If it bleeds, it leads."
Gary :cool
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#491511 - 03/14/20 11:08 AM
Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru
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Just how contagious is the Carona Virus? Keep in mind that one of those gigantic cruise ships that ended up circling offshore for several days had just 21 cases, 19 of which were crew and 2 passengers tested positive. This out of more than 4,000 passengers crammed into a floating sardine can. Nearly everyone came in contact with an infected person, yet only 2 passengers actually tested positive. One of the medical professionals stated yesterday that the mist from a contagious cough would only carry about 5 feet and 6 feet at best, then dissipate. Additionally, there have been no mortalities in people over 50 years of age, worldwide.
The actual mortality rate is an unknown factor at this point, mainly because at the present time, it is only based upon reported cases. Medical specialist stated that there are likely many times more unreported cases, due to the fact that this merely mimics the common cold, for which people rarely see a physician, stay home, take aspirin and allow it to take it's course. After 10 days, the patient feels OK and goes about their regular, daily routine.
There seems to be more arm-chair specialists with absolutely no medical background or training making brash statements about this disease, especially in the press, where the motto is "If it bleeds, it leads."
Gary :cool
Don’t know where you get your news from, (I hope it’s not Fox News as probably 90% of stuff on there is fake) but the mortality worldwide is a hell of a lot (Do some real research) with most being elderly or with complex health problems. Don’t bury your head in the sand, as while there is a lot of hype and sensationalism in the news media it’s a serious problem. (Many countries are literally closed (And these are 1st world countries) with movement restricted and the US looks like it could follow a similar route due to its lethargic response at the beginning) Bill
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#491514 - 03/14/20 11:29 AM
Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru
[Re: travlin'easy]
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Additionally, there have been no mortalities in people over 50 years of age, worldwide.
There seems to be more arm-chair specialists with absolutely no medical background or training making brash statements about this disease, especially in the press, where the motto is "If it bleeds, it leads."
Gary :cool So whom do we believe?!? I don't know ... : https://abcnews.go.com/Health/learn-americans-died-coronavirus/story?id=69588942"What we know and don’t about the Americans who died from coronavirus At least 23 of the Americans who have died were over 70."https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/m...-at-the-numbers… "and people aged over 50 experienced the highest rate of deaths"https://www.vox.com/2020/3/12/21173783/coronavirus-death-age-covid-19-elderly-seniors"In Italy, a country with one of the world’s oldest populations, a March 4 analysis by the national health institute found that of the 105 patients who died from the virus, the average age was 81. This put a 20-year gap between the average age of people who tested positive for the virus and the deceased, the institute said. On Friday, an ICU physician in Lombardy — the epicenter of Italy’s outbreak — told JAMA there have been only two deaths of people under the age of 50."Cancer, heart disease, diabetes, suicides, humans, mosquitoes, and snakes are not contagious ... Yes, the media LOVES to expound on any disaster,near or far, but I do believe CAUTION is the key right now ... AND washing your hands, including your wrists ... just sayin'
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#491521 - 03/14/20 01:19 PM
Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru
[Re: Scott Langholff]
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Registered: 09/29/05
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Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
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I can't believe that after all the overwhelming evidence and the shutting down of all major sports, and closing off of entire countries, that we STILL have these 'doubting thomas's' still pushing the ridiculous theory that this is just more 'FAKE NEWS'. It's hard to believe that otherwise intelligent people are so full of the Trump koolaid that they STILL want to believe that this colossal crisis is 'not that bad'. SERIOUSLY!!! I can see the inscription on their tombstones now; "So, maybe it WASN'T fake news". Sad that political ideology can blind people to reality. Anybody see that "dear leader" performance by Pence in that recent WH press conference? Pathetic, to say the least, to see grown men sacrifice every scrap of dignity to please a narcissistic egomaniac. This pandemic is REAL, get used to it. Instead of pooh-poohing it, be a good citizen and take all the recommended precautions to help protect yourself, your family, and your neighbors, from this very REAL health crisis.
chas
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#491536 - 03/14/20 03:07 PM
Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru
[Re: tony mads usa]
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Registered: 12/22/02
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Loc: NSW,Australia
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Additionally, there have been no mortalities in people over 50 years of age, worldwide.
There seems to be more arm-chair specialists with absolutely no medical background or training making brash statements about this disease, especially in the press, where the motto is "If it bleeds, it leads."
Gary :cool So whom do we believe?!? I don't know ... : https://abcnews.go.com/Health/learn-americans-died-coronavirus/story?id=69588942"What we know and don’t about the Americans who died from coronavirus At least 23 of the Americans who have died were over 70."https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/m...-at-the-numbers… "and people aged over 50 experienced the highest rate of deaths"https://www.vox.com/2020/3/12/21173783/coronavirus-death-age-covid-19-elderly-seniors"In Italy, a country with one of the world’s oldest populations, a March 4 analysis by the national health institute found that of the 105 patients who died from the virus, the average age was 81. This put a 20-year gap between the average age of people who tested positive for the virus and the deceased, the institute said. On Friday, an ICU physician in Lombardy — the epicenter of Italy’s outbreak — told JAMA there have been only two deaths of people under the age of 50."Cancer, heart disease, diabetes, suicides, humans, mosquitoes, and snakes are not contagious ... Yes, the media LOVES to expound on any disaster,near or far, but I do believe CAUTION is the key right now ... AND washing your hands, including your wrists ... just sayin' Tony , Maybe add this one to your list. We have some brilliant scientists over here. https://www.racq.com.au/Living/Articles/Queensland-developing-coronavirus-vaccine
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#491542 - 03/14/20 04:06 PM
Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru
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Rikki, that is really great news ... I will be praying for their success ... Hi Tony, Let’s all pray that they’re successful. Hopefully some of the hysteria with people hoarding toilet paper, hand sanitisers , etc will disappear, if they see a glimmer of hope. It’s what it’s doing to humanity, that’s the scary part. “I’m ok, I’ve got my 600 rolls of toilet paper, too bad about you”. Sad to think that is the attitude of so many. Wouldn’t have thought it possible with the horrendous fires we just went thru,firefighters risking their lives to save other people’s properties, and in some cases their own properties burnt to the ground , while helping others. and on the other hand you have these selfish people who couldn’t care less about anyone but themselves.
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#491560 - 03/14/20 07:00 PM
Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru
[Re: Scott Langholff]
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15575
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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I don't know about the other folks on the forum, but suffering from pulmonary fibrosis and living on just 14 to 15 percent of my lung capacity, and recently suffering a stroke, I am in the high risk category for dying from even a common cold, let alone the Carona virus. I wash my hands frequently, probably 10 or more times a day, avoid crowded locations and individuals that show some symptoms of being sick with some sort of contagious disease. As for the number of under 50 fatalities, that was on the radio as of last Wednesday, Bill. Whether or not it was fake news, I have no idea, but it was a statement made by the US Surgeon General during a press conference. I spent a lot of my working life working in the field of medicine. I worked in the University of Maryland Shock Trauma Center, the ICU, the ER of 4 hospitals, spent two years in surgical research, and directed the Pulmonary Function Lab of Johns Hopkins Hospital. I also worked with some of the most contagious patients on the planet at the time, those who were afflicted with tuberculosis and confined to Mount Wilson Hospital, a TB sanitarium just outside the Baltimore City limits. I was very careful in treating those individuals, took every precaution, and never tested positive for TB. Now, I am by no means an expert on communicable diseases or a virologist, and never claimed to be. I'm proud of my medical background, training and expertise. I helped save a lot of lives during my tenure, often neglecting the needs of my family and risking my own well-being in the process. However, in this particular instance, I must respect the information being put forth by highly trained experts in the medical field - not a bunch of left-wing politicians with an axe to grind and reporters who thrive on sensationalism and half truths. I respect President Trump for acting quickly, and Mike Pence for putting together the top medical team on the globe to come up with a viable solution and prevent as many deaths as possible. And, The President has tested negative for the virus. I think he caved in to the press on this one, because he was tested despite the fact that he showed no symptoms whatsoever. Now, to be on the safe side, I think I'll just excuse my self from this thread, get a tall glass of bourbon and watch Fox News. Stay safe, Gary
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#491564 - 03/14/20 07:45 PM
Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru
[Re: Scott Langholff]
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Senior Member
Registered: 09/29/05
Posts: 6703
Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
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he "CAVED"???? He's the president of the United States and he was exposed to people KNOWN to have tested positive for the virus. Didn't he have a responsibility to the country, not to mention his family and staff, to insure that he was not infected? I'm truly sorry for the state of your health and wish you nothing but the best, but when one is so blinded by political ideology that they can't accept the truth in the face of overwhelming evidence, then it really taints your credibility in every other area. The entire world is shaking in it's collective boots and you think it's a "bunch of left-wing politicians with an axe to grind" and "reporters who thrive on sensationalism and half-truths". Heck, even the most rabid right-wing, MAGA-hat-wearing, gun-totin', beer guzzling, NASCAR-loving, Trumpy, is still out there stocking up on Purel and Clorox Wipes...oh, and toilet paper. Wake up man, THE END IS NEAR! chas
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#491567 - 03/14/20 08:14 PM
Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru
[Re: travlin'easy]
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Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6020
Loc: NSW,Australia
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Hi Gary, Sadly here too. Our prime minister here is being fully guided as to what to do by our chief medical officer , ( the guy in charge with the health of our nation) ,but , some of the press and the opposition party here seem to feel they know better than the professionals in charge, and stir the public into a panic.
Our opposition leader the other day , instead of attending a briefing to which he was invited, with experts on the current corona situation, decided it was more important to go to a function to meet players from his favourite football team and get some happy snaps , rather than get himself informed on what is going on with the corona virus.
Enough said.
Edited by rikkisbears (03/14/20 08:27 PM)
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#491666 - 03/16/20 03:10 AM
Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru
[Re: Scott Langholff]
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Senior Member
Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4912
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
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Hi Scott, your post is right to the point, thanks. I feel that they are all telling the truth, laced with lies; whichever fits their purpose. When I started sending political news to my family, they said that, that kind of news produces hate. They were right. No matter how good, or true it may seem, it has, for the most part, one purpose; and that is to hate the other guy; or frighten us, which means, attacking our learning and beleifs.
Tony says, “Fake news is that news which goes against one’s learnings and beliefs”. I feel that fake news places us in a position of how are we to handle this fake news ---- without becoming like them.
Tony, would you expand on your statement, I think that it is needed in times like these? John C.
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#491680 - 03/16/20 06:43 AM
Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru
[Re: bruno123]
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Senior Member
Registered: 01/16/02
Posts: 14376
Loc: East Greenwich RI USA
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(Only the far-right hate it because this network tends to be politically correct).
I have no idea as to the veracity of the story, but as I believe I said in an earlier, regardless of what side of the fence one is on "fake news" is that news that goes against one's leanings or beliefs ...
I could not disagree more. Fake news has nothing to do with what one's leanings or beliefs are. It's got to do whether it is actually true or not. I hear fake news on all sides. On CNN as well as FOX. Also, neither the Democrats nor the Republicans have a monopoly on stupid. Scott Scott, I am basically in agreement with you ... I did not say one station has fake news, the other has not ... In an earlier post I even stated that I don't trust any of them, because they all have their own agenda ... Tony says, “Fake news is that news which goes against one’s learnings and beliefs”. I feel that fake news places us in a position of how are we to handle this fake news ---- without becoming like them. Tony, would you expand on your statement, I think that it is needed in times like these? John C.
John, first a slight correction - I said "leanings" not "lea rnings" ... I think I explained part of it in my response to Scott, but to add, all too often I will hear "I don't watch 'XXX' (fill in any news station) because that's all fake news ... In fact, in a recent post someone said about FOX 'it's 90% fake news' ... So it may be too broad a generalization, but I think people watch certain news stations because the news is going to be presented in a way that tracks their beliefs ... Too bad we can't go back to when news was news, and not sensationalism ...
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#491691 - 03/16/20 08:38 AM
Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru
[Re: Scott Langholff]
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Member
Registered: 03/22/17
Posts: 449
Loc: Mountain Home, AR
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yeh, let's go back to Walter Cronkite and his totally one sided liberal presentation or the outright lies about Bushes service in the National Guard. I agree with Scott, it comes from both sides. My daddy told me years ago to "not believe everything you read". It's unfortunate that we've gotten to the point that we can't believe anything we read!
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#491692 - 03/16/20 09:09 AM
Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru
[Re: Scott Langholff]
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Member
Registered: 11/19/17
Posts: 596
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Unfortunately, some people don't understand what exponential growth is. The proliferation of bacteria, infections with a virus and many processes in nature happen with exponential growth. In the case of Corona, it is determined by the factor that one infected person usually infects 3 others.
European countries have observed that every three days the number of infected people is doubling. The growth is slow in the beginning, and from a certain point on it explodes.
If one is optimistic and supposes that numbers only double once a week in the US AND forget about the massive dark figure, you'd end up here:
March 16: 4,000 March 23: 8,000 March 30: 16,000 April 07: 32,000 April 14: 64,000 April 21: 128,000 April 28: 256,000 May 05: 512,000 May 12: 1 million May 19: 2m May 26: 4m June 2: 8m June 9: 16m June 16: 32m June 23: 64m June 30: 128m July 7: 256m.
That was a very optimistic scenario for the case that no restrictions are put in place.
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