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#491303 - 03/10/20 12:58 PM First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru
Scott Langholff Offline
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I'm a bit shocked but not surprised and hesitate to even bring it up but....

Two AL facilities and one party at a large hotel for a group of doctors so far. I suppose we will see most or all NH type gigs go away for awhile.

Speechless.

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#491305 - 03/10/20 01:33 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
Bernie9 Offline
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I just had one cancel. One resident came down with flu like symptoms,and before they knew,they were nearly all sick. I miss my hugs and handshakes,but I guess that is the way it will be for a while.
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#491306 - 03/10/20 01:49 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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I've had over a dozen cancellations in two days. I'm going to have to start busking. Maybe selling body parts if no one throws me any coins. frown

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#491307 - 03/10/20 01:54 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Beakybird]
captain Russ Offline
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Canceled so far is a photography trip to Italy and a three day gig at a Jazz festival in Brazil. The Country club where I work 4-6 nights a week is contemplating shutting down. So far, 6 cases have been identified in Kentucky. 4 are in a hospital a mile from my office.

Lets keep our fingers crossed.

Russ

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#491308 - 03/10/20 02:07 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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Nothing canceled yet, but two are requiring signing forms at the front desk with health questions. I expect some to go under quarantine.
Ed

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#491309 - 03/10/20 02:08 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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The news isn't helping as usual...they are fueling panic...even hording toilet paper is happening now...
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#491310 - 03/10/20 02:09 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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The news isn't helping as usual...they are fueling panic...even hording toilet paper is happening now...
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#491311 - 03/10/20 02:31 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: leeboy]
Stephenm52 Offline
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Originally Posted By leeboy
The news isn't helping as usual...they are fueling panic...even hording toilet paper is happening now...



+1 Lee you must have just seen that story on WESH-TV we did too. Here in The Villages people are so panicked they have been stealing hand sanitizer from the rest rooms and other public places.

I echo Tony’s comments that are in the next post.

How many people died from the flu in 2019?
So far, 14,000 people have died and 250,000 people have been hospitalized during the 2019-2020 flu season, according to preliminary estimates from the CDC.Feb 14, 2020


Edited by Stephenm52 (03/10/20 02:34 PM)

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#491312 - 03/10/20 02:31 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: leeboy]
tony mads usa Offline
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And there are more people dying from the flu every day ...
One state governor declares a state of emergency, and all the rest have to follow ...

OK, I understand the run on hand sanitizers and face masks, but TOILET PAPER?!? confused1
Is that in case stores shut down?
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#491314 - 03/10/20 02:58 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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Isn't it amazing how the media hype goes absolutely nuts trying to instill fear in people with something they know the average person has absolutely no control over the situation. When I was working in the media world, the old saying was "If it bleeds - it leads."

Keep in mind that over my lifespan there have been far more infections diseases that got little of no press coverage to speak of. For example, there is nothing more contagious than TB, and Baltimore held the title of have the highest rate of TB than anyplace on the planet back in the 1960s when I was first married and working in the medical field. Once a week, I traveled to one of Baltimore's TB Sanitariums to draw blood and do blood gas analysis on TB Patients in Mount Wilson Hospital. The mortality rate at that time was horrendous, patients spend on average at lest a year in the hospital and some, including one of my aunts, spent 2 years there. She managed to survive.

When I went to draw blood at Mount Wilson, I wore a scrub suit, gloves, special mask, hat, booties, gown and changed gloves between each and every patient contact. After doing all the bloodwork, I then went into a decontamination room, stripped down, took a hot shower and all my work clothes were bagged and incinerated. Then I walked into another room where my street clothes were in a locker with an ultra-violet light inside it. Yes, TB is that contagious.

Keep in mind that in the history of this nation we have lived through yellow fever, typhoid, TB, swine flu, mad cow disease, Ebola virus, you name it, it has been here, and for the most part, managed to survive pretty much unscathed. Eventually, someone comes up with a vaccine and the virus is pretty much eliminated until it morphs into a new and more deadly virus.

Nursing homes in my part of the world usually close for a couple weeks every year, mainly because of another highly contagious disease - C-Diff. C-Differential is a highly contagious infection of the colon that kills thousands of elderly people ever year. It is very, very contagious, most people that contract this disease are placed in isolation rooms where they go through the most horrendous bout of dysentery for up to a month, loose enormous amounts of weight and dehydrate. It's a horrendous disease - I should know, I've been through it. I had enough music jobs though that loosing one or two a month just didn't amount to a hill of beans.

This virus is contagious, but not nearly as contagious as others we've experienced. Just use a common sense approach, wash your hands and face frequently, and stay away from individuals that have symptoms of a URI and you will likely go unscathed with this one as well.

Good luck,

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#491315 - 03/10/20 03:02 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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I read this online, and make no claims to it's validity, but I like the jist of it.

"I'm a doctor and an Infectious Diseases Specialist. I've been at this for more than 20 years seeing sick patients on a daily basis. I have worked in inner city hospitals and in the poorest slums of Africa. HIV-AIDS, Hepatitis,TB, SARS, Measles, Shingles, Whooping cough, Diphtheria...there is little I haven't been exposed to in my profession. And with notable exception of SARS, very little has left me feeling vulnerable, overwhelmed or downright scared.

I am not scared of Covid-19. I am concerned about the implications of a novel infectious agent that has spread the world over and continues to find new footholds in different soil. I am rightly concerned for the welfare of those who are elderly, in frail health or disenfranchised who stand to suffer mostly, and disproportionately, at the hands of this new scourge. But I am not scared of Covid-19.

What I am scared about is the loss of reason and wave of fear that has induced the masses of society into a spellbinding spiral of panic, stockpiling obscene quantities of anything that could fill a bomb shelter adequately in a post-apocalyptic world. I am scared of the N95 masks that are stolen from hospitals and urgent care clinics where they are actually needed for front line healthcare providers and instead are being donned in airports, malls, and coffee lounges, perpetuating even more fear and suspicion of others. I am scared that our hospitals will be overwhelmed with anyone who thinks they " probably don't have it but may as well get checked out no matter what because you just never know..." and those with heart failure, emphysema, pneumonia and strokes will pay the price for overfilled ER waiting rooms with only so many doctors and nurses to assess.

I am scared that travel restrictions will become so far reaching that weddings will be canceled, graduations missed and family reunions will not materialize. And well, even that big party called the Olympic Games...that could be kyboshed too. Can you even
imagine?

I'm scared those same epidemic fears will limit trade, harm partnerships in multiple sectors, business and otherwise and ultimately culminate in a global recession.

But mostly, I'm scared about what message we are telling our kids when faced with a threat. Instead of reason, rationality, openmindedness and altruism, we are telling them to panic, be fearful, suspicious, reactionary and self-interested.

Covid-19 is nowhere near over. It will be coming to a city, a hospital, a friend, even a family member near you at some point. Expect it. Stop waiting to be surprised further. The fact is the virus itself will not likely do much harm when it arrives. But our own behaviors and "fight for yourself above all else" attitude could prove disastrous.

I implore you all. Temper fear with reason, panic with patience and uncertainty with education. We have an opportunity to learn a great deal about health hygiene and limiting the spread of innumerable transmissible diseases in our society. Let's meet this challenge together in the best spirit of compassion for others, patience, and above all, an unfailing effort to seek truth, facts and knowledge as opposed to conjecture, speculation and catastrophizing.

Facts not fear. Clean hands. Open hearts.
Our children will thank us for it."

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#491316 - 03/10/20 03:06 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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I've just forgotten for a while about this thing and sent some of my demos to some restaurants (because I remembered that I want some money)...

In Russia it's in an early stage, I guess, or there's a lot of denial. But large public events are banned (people still have to use overcrowded public transportation).

Now there's also a new wave of economical crisis. Well. It's still either trying to do some work or just going crazy.

One girl I know who had graduated conservatory has been playing guitar and singing just outside in the street for about 4 years now, it's her income.

I picture how in terms of crisis street will be a place to work... Or maybe playing online would be a more up-to-date version of it.

It's true that information can work like a virus itself. In some sence we are just walking servers, processing every bit of information which comes through eyes and ears.

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#491319 - 03/10/20 03:35 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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Hi Dave,
That post says it all.

We’ve had 3 deaths here, and they were all elderly. Roughly in their 80’s /90’s.

The young kids and babies haven’t been affected, and that’s one age grouping that they usually worry about with flu.

What the media doesn’t tell you over here, is the survival rate, the amount of people who have actually gotten over it. They just just want to keep spreading the fear, by telling everyone how many got it overnight and how many died around the world.

If the Chinese are actually telling us the truth, woke up this morning and heard on the news that their rate of contracting the disease and deaths , is going down rapidly. More of a seasonal problem, and that things might be improving with warming weather. Hopefully not a lie.

Same crazies over here, hoarding toilet paper, hand sanitizer and tissues.
Had a mother and daughter charged with brawling in a supermarket the other day.. Trolley stacked to the brim with toilet paper, and some other poor woman just wanted a pack. They started to beat her up. Limit was 4 packs, but they had a trolley full., limit now is 1 or 2 packs .
Crazy part is they make the stuff in Sydney, a few miles away.

Kind of reminds me of these zombie horror movies , humanity going nuts,

Half expected my grocery delivery guy to be carrying a shotgun, just in case the delivery truck got hijacked for the toilet paper, might become a more dangerous job than driving an armoured truck , full of cash.
( just joking, we aren’t allowed to own firearms).


Edited by rikkisbears (03/10/20 03:41 PM)
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#491320 - 03/10/20 03:45 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
W Tracy Parnell Offline
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Insanity fueled by the media. Just watched the local news here and there was exactly one story that wasn't about the corona virus. On the other hand, people have to be smart enough to ignore the hype and just use common sense.

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#491321 - 03/10/20 03:51 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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...still, given the fact that it seems to be most lethal to the elderly, and given the closed environment of a nursing home, wouldn't this be a place to exercise extra caution? Plus, most of the NH entertainers aren't exactly 'spring chickens' either. Just sayin'.

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#491323 - 03/10/20 04:44 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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Follow medical advice as they will be the best to tell you what is going on.

All of the above say that youngsters are sound, as are fit people, however if you have underlying medical problems then make sure to take precautionary measures, as you are a high risk category.

The biggest problem is that you can be infected and contagious for 5 days before you show any symptoms, thus you can pass it on without even knowing about it.

Like all these things it is fine balance between what you do, and don’t do, and is very difficult to get 100% right.

As I said at the beginning, follow the medical expert’s advice and we should get through it.

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#491333 - 03/10/20 07:15 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
Jerry T Offline
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Just today, 4 out of 7 NH facilities cancelled for March. Others are awaiting corporate guidance/orders. I'm disappointed, but totally understand as they are concerned for the well-being of their residents ... bring on that 'global warming', heat is said to allay the virus ...

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#491339 - 03/10/20 09:20 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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The curve of infections is jumping up at a pace in Germany now that is making authorities cancel all big events. Like France and Spain (!), we will soon have numbers like Italy if nothing is done immediately.
Top virologists are warning the death rate among the elderly can reach more than 20%. So, no, it is not about artificial panic.
A recent study has crushed hope that the virus will be significantly weakened by warmer temperatures, so there is no time.
In Germany there are 28,000 intensive care beds. If the curve goes up as steeply as at the moment, hospitals will have to make brutal decisions whom to put on oxygen blood enrichment and whom to let pass away. That’s the situation.

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#491341 - 03/10/20 11:44 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Crossover]
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Originally Posted By Crossover
...
In Germany there are 28,000 intensive care beds. If the curve goes up as steeply as at the moment, hospitals will have to make brutal decisions whom to put on oxygen blood enrichment and whom to let pass away. That’s the situation.
In North Korea, patients can be simply shot to death. Talk about a brutal decision..... https://bdnews24.com/world/south-east-as...-in-north-korea

Yet, North Korea claims that it has no Coronavirus case. https://www.newsweek.com/north-korea-cla...-deaths-1491172
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#491344 - 03/11/20 05:24 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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OK, it can always get more brutal...

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#491349 - 03/11/20 08:16 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Crossover]
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All St. Patrick's day events have been cancelled. Berea College has shut down for the semester.

Russ

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#491350 - 03/11/20 08:23 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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I Just got my first 2 cancellations for March - I expect more will follow. Some of the places are
requiring a temperature check on arrival.

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#491354 - 03/11/20 08:50 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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Definitely difficult times we are in. When people are hoarding toilet paper, you know there is panic. Went to visit someone in a NH 2 days ago and the wife and I had to be interviewed and get passes. Smart decisions on their part, but I am hearing that you can have it for a week, not know it, and still be contagious.
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#491357 - 03/11/20 10:42 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: saxxman]
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I have my annual check-up for my knees on Thursday ... got a call today saying if I have a cough or otherwise don't feel well to call and reschedule ...

One of the things I don't understand is that our Governor has suggested the cancellation on all events that will have more than 100 people ... so an event with 99 people id safe, but 101 people is not ?!? ... confused1
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#491358 - 03/11/20 10:55 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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What I find amazing is that more than 10,000 people just returned home from the Conservative Political Action Conference, one person there tested positive for Carona Virus, yet no one other than that person has become ill.

Ironically, the old press moto "If it bleeds -it leads" is still going strong. Nearly every channel on TV is beating on this drum 24/7 and now you cannot purchase hand wipes on Amazon or in the grocery stores - they're sold out! Kinda like the weather forecast when the forecaster calls for snow. Yep, gotta stock up in bread, milk and toilet paper before that snow hits. Snow must make people poop more than usual. wink

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#491362 - 03/11/20 12:24 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: tony mads usa]
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Originally Posted By tony mads usa
I have my annual check-up for my knees on Thursday ... got a call today saying if I have a cough or otherwise don't feel well to call and reschedule ...

One of the things I don't understand is that our Governor has suggested the cancellation on all events that will have more than 100 people ... so an event with 99 people id safe, but 101 people is not ?!? ... confused1


Same here, the minister of health has advised all events over 1,000 people to be cancelled, below 1,000 it‘s up to the organizer - of course it‘s an arbitrary number, but I guess they have to state a limit somewhere...

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#491364 - 03/11/20 12:56 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Crossover]
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What they are saying is "we don't trust you to make a sensible decision, so we are going to set some regulations" ...
Here in RI, a City Council voted to not cancel the St. Patrick's day parade ... Some people were saying they made the wrong decision ... one councilman said "It's easy, if you have concerns, don't go to the parade" ...
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#491366 - 03/11/20 01:59 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: tony mads usa]
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Originally Posted By tony mads usa
What they are saying is "we don't trust you to make a sensible decision, so we are going to set some regulations" ...
Here in RI, a City Council voted to not cancel the St. Patrick's day parade ... Some people were saying they made the wrong decision ... one councilman said "It's easy, if you have concerns, don't go to the parade" ...


Tony as a Rhode Islander I felt they made the right decision having the parade. Now I understand that decision has been reversed and it’s canceled? Is that true?

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#491372 - 03/11/20 02:30 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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New York City cancelled theirs today. Not sure about Lil Ole Rhody, though.

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#491376 - 03/11/20 02:56 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Stephenm52]
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Originally Posted By Stephenm52
Originally Posted By tony mads usa
What they are saying is "we don't trust you to make a sensible decision, so we are going to set some regulations" ...
Here in RI, a City Council voted to not cancel the St. Patrick's day parade ... Some people were saying they made the wrong decision ... one councilman said "It's easy, if you have concerns, don't go to the parade" ...


Tony as a Rhode Islander I felt they made the right decision having the parade. Now I understand that decision has been reversed and it’s canceled? Is that true?


Steve, Apparently you saw that news before I did, and it's true ... pressure from the Gov. who wants to appear squeaky clean before she exits RI and tries the national political scene ...
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#491380 - 03/11/20 04:44 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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„It‘s easy - if you have concerns, don‘t go to the parade“ - No, that‘s a false conclusion. Even if someone avoids going there, (s)he will suffer the consequences later when many more people get infected and infect him in the supermarket later...

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#491381 - 03/11/20 05:09 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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I had several cancellation calls today, including jobs for Thursday and Friday. In addition to that, my transmission puked in my old Jeep, so I spent the day looking at cars (thank God my son is a manager at CarMax). I get my 4X tomorrow and a new car too. Talk about broke!

Yes, the situation is serious in MI. MSU closed down for March and there is panic at the State Capitol (wife works there).

Silver lining is the amount of time freed up to dig into the 4X and hopefully this thing will pass.
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#491383 - 03/11/20 05:25 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: zuki]
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Originally Posted By zuki
I get my 4X tomorrow and a new car too.

Congratulations....definitely a silver lining to your cloud.
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#491384 - 03/11/20 05:30 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: btweengigs]
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Originally Posted By btweengigs
Originally Posted By zuki
I get my 4X tomorrow and a new car too.

Congratulations....definitely a silver lining to your cloud.
Ed


Plus one!

Tony you’ve said a mouthful about Governor RATMONDO also known QueenAMondo.

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#491387 - 03/11/20 06:04 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Crossover]
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Originally Posted By Crossover
„It‘s easy - if you have concerns, don‘t go to the parade“ - No, that‘s a false conclusion. Even if someone avoids going there, (s)he will suffer the consequences later when many more people get infected and infect him in the supermarket later...


Believe me, I pray that this virus reaches an immediate end, but we can't live in a bubble ...
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#491388 - 03/11/20 06:06 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Stephenm52]
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Originally Posted By Stephenm52
Originally Posted By btweengigs
Originally Posted By zuki
I get my 4X tomorrow and a new car too.

Congratulations....definitely a silver lining to your cloud.
Ed


Plus one!

Tony you’ve said a mouthful about Governor RATMONDO also known QueenAMondo.


Clever, Steve, I hadn't heard those ... wink
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#491389 - 03/11/20 06:08 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: zuki]
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Originally Posted By zuki
I had several cancellation calls today, including jobs for Thursday and Friday. In addition to that, my transmission puked in my old Jeep, so I spent the day looking at cars (thank God my son is a manager at CarMax). I get my 4X tomorrow and a new car too. Talk about broke!

Yes, the situation is serious in MI. MSU closed down for March and there is panic at the State Capitol (wife works there).

Silver lining is the amount of time freed up to dig into the 4X and hopefully this thing will pass.


zuki, best of luck with the car and the 4X ... can't wait to hear some of your work ...
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#491390 - 03/11/20 07:16 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: btweengigs]
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Originally Posted By zuki
I get my 4X tomorrow and a new car too.

Congratulations....definitely a silver lining to your cloud.
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#491391 - 03/11/20 07:19 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: tony mads usa]
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I had several cancellation calls today, including jobs for Thursday and Friday. In addition to that, my transmission puked in my old Jeep, so I spent the day looking at cars (thank God my son is a manager at CarMax). I get my 4X tomorrow and a new car too. Talk about broke!

Yes, the situation is serious in MI. MSU closed down for March and there is panic at the State Capitol (wife works there).

Silver lining is the amount of time freed up to dig into the 4X and hopefully this thing will pass.


zuki, best of luck with the car and the 4X ... can't wait to hear some of your work ...


Thanks t. I'm digging deep because I think I'll have to find additional venues to play. The 4X features - I will use them all, just like Donny suggested - he is so correct (mix it up).


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#491392 - 03/11/20 10:22 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: hammer]
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I Just got my first 2 cancellations for March - I expect more will follow. Some of the places are
requiring a temperature check on arrival.

Deane


How dumb is that. By the time the temperature is taken the person taking it has maybe also been infected if it is coronavirus. Just cancel is the safest. Sounds like too much trouble to me.

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#491395 - 03/12/20 06:12 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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President Trump has advised nursing homes to end all non-essential visits.
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#491396 - 03/12/20 06:37 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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There‘s no other way than to stop events and protect the elderly. In my federal state, Northrhine-Westphalia, the case number has increased by the factor 10 in 10 days, from 86 to 901. If you project this curve, 50% of the population (= 8 million) would be infected on April 21. It‘s an incredible growth rate. We have to stop normal life.

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#491397 - 03/12/20 07:08 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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The NBA has suspended the rest of the season, and some NHL teams are choosing to either play without fans, or cancel. There goes my Star Wars day at the Flyers this Saturday.
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#491400 - 03/12/20 07:22 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Who wants to go to a flyers game anyway? I do feel for those who work in the arena losing paydays; the athletes, who can afford some time off, continue to get paid..

A full time singer/ songwriter friend has received multiple cancellations this week.


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#491401 - 03/12/20 07:48 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: sparky589]
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Who wants to go to a flyers game anyway?


Most of you know I'm not a pro sports fan, but this game is a Christmas present from my son, and he, and HIS son, and I went last year, too. It was a blast! Major league hockey games are like full scale rock concerts with incredible audio and light shows. For me - it's all about the boys. My grandson is a big rime Gritty fan, (Flyers mascot) and watching his excitement is super contagious. (poor choice of words, given the reason for this post?) Anyway - it's not about the game - it's about the grandson, the son, and the LIGHTSABERS!!!!!!!
Now, I'm sad again.
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#491409 - 03/12/20 11:22 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Uncle Dave]
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The NHL just "paused" its season, following the NBA. Two teams had already announced they would play without fans, though no NHL players have been diagnosed. However, sharing facilities and locker areas with NBA players influenced the decision.
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#491411 - 03/12/20 11:41 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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"paused" "suspended" "tomaato" "tomahto" ...
same ole
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#491412 - 03/12/20 11:42 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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Got my 4X in today, but sure in heck not buying a car. Worked out the numbers at the dealership and took a lunch break to sort it out. Got in my car and had more cancellations. Think I'm going to lose all March jobs. Talk about Debby Downer - drove home without a new car - no way.


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#491414 - 03/12/20 11:45 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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MI State Capitol cancels all events and tours until 5/1.
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#491415 - 03/12/20 11:46 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: montunoman]
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President Trump has advised nursing homes to end all non-essential visits.


I wonder if he advised all not to visit his establishments?
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#491416 - 03/12/20 11:46 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: zuki]
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Got my 4X in today.


Need a PAAS? I got one for ya!
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#491417 - 03/12/20 11:52 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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No thx Dave, had one before. Wasn't for me.
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#491418 - 03/12/20 11:53 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Uncle Dave]
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#491425 - 03/12/20 02:14 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: bruno123]
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March madness is now March sadness- men's and women's tournaments cancelled. MLB delaying opening day.I wonder what ESPN will have to talk about? Either way, it translates to lots of available practice time for everyone.
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#491431 - 03/12/20 05:24 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: bruno123]
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PAAS -- hOW MUCH?
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$250!
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#491432 - 03/12/20 05:28 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: sparky589]
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March madness translates to lots of available practice time for everyone.


Healthy outlook!!
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#491433 - 03/12/20 07:20 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Looks like every group activity in the world is being shut down ...
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#491434 - 03/12/20 07:42 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: tony mads usa]
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Looks like every group activity in the world is being shut down ...


Damn ... there goes the orgy I scheduled because of work being cancelled.
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#491436 - 03/12/20 08:50 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Don't worry, Dave, only PUBLIC activities are being shut down ... wink
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#491437 - 03/12/20 09:52 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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Well now it looks like I'm going to have even more time to practice and put together a show! Just wonder how long do you all think this is going to last?
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#491443 - 03/13/20 07:20 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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We just returned from a trip to NYC( Hopefully unscathed ) to see my daughter and her school orchestra perform at Carnegie Hall. Now I’m hearing that all performances on Broadway and Carnegie Hall are cancelled. Looks like all my little bookings are getting cancelled for this month too. This is a bad time for performers everywhere!
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#491446 - 03/13/20 08:12 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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#491456 - 03/13/20 10:53 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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Getting that first March cancel was tough, but the whole month is brutal. Now it looks as if April might be a problem too. Glad my wife works. Now, Trump declares a National Emergency tomorrow. What next, Martial Law? Yikes
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#491461 - 03/13/20 12:09 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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Just got a call from one under lockdown wanting to know if I could do a "virtual show" using a computer, ipad, phone, etc. They said they have a hook up from their computer and can project to a large movie screen. Now that is thinking outside the box. They haven't told me what platform they use....could be Hangouts, Facebook Messenger, maybe Facetime. I have to find out more. Intriguing.
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#491463 - 03/13/20 12:30 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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ALL Louisiana schools are closed until April 13. Can you imagine the problems this will cause?
I suppose it is necessary since, if the virus spreads, many will be out of school anyway, including teachers and administrators. I hope it is over-reacting.
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#491465 - 03/13/20 12:53 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: DonM]
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I hope it's over-reacting also, but better to OVER react than NOT react ...
Had Italy over-reacted, there might not have been as big a problem ...
Stay safe, all ...
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#491466 - 03/13/20 01:10 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: btweengigs]
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Originally Posted By btweengigs
Just got a call from one under lockdown wanting to know if I could do a "virtual show" using a computer, ipad, phone, etc. They said they have a hook up from their computer and can project to a large movie screen. Now that is thinking outside the box. They haven't told me what platform they use....could be Hangouts, Facebook Messenger, maybe Facetime. I have to find out more. Intriguing.
Ed


This virus will probably have companies thinking of new and cheaper ways to conduct business over the internet.

With faster internet speeds 5g, etc. there will be less travel, more telephone and video conferencing, and now entertainment.

Our local music store has downsized into a smaller place, and doing business over the internet. I am using them to sell off all my unused equipment on line. I take it to them, agree on a price and collect when it is sold. No hassle, no shipping and no one coming to my house.

All the local food stores and restaurants are offering online ordering and delivery, and drive-thru pick up.

I ordered a pizza the other day, and never saw or spoke to a live person. When I picked up my pizza it was in a hot display case. I punched in my order number, the door opened, and out came my pizza.

The times they are a changing.

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#491469 - 03/13/20 02:23 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: btweengigs]
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Originally Posted By btweengigs
Just got a call from one under lockdown wanting to know if I could do a "virtual show" using a computer, ipad, phone, etc. They said they have a hook up from their computer and can project to a large movie screen. Now that is thinking outside the box. They haven't told me what platform they use....could be Hangouts, Facebook Messenger, maybe Facetime. I have to find out more. Intriguing.
Ed


That's interesting. I got the idea to contact the facilities yesterday and see if I can stream using Skype or whatever platform could work. Don't see why it wouldn't work. The residents will certainly need entertainment at a time like this and at the same time hopefully this could avoid a disaster for income. As it is I've had more cancellations including one that overbooked today and I had to go back home. New AD.


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#491470 - 03/13/20 02:39 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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I have done many long distance Skype lessons previously and don't see why this can't work for NH gigs as well. I am excited about using that or something similar for the NH circuit. smile

Plan on calling starting Monday. Fingers crossed.


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#491471 - 03/13/20 02:44 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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Scott... how do you imagine the residents would access your show.... on their phone, tablet or what?

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#491472 - 03/13/20 03:05 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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Hi,
News this morning, Queensland are working on a vaccine. Testing on animals at the moment, human trials another 4 months or so.

https://www.racq.com.au/Living/Articles/Queensland-developing-coronavirus-vaccine
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#491473 - 03/13/20 03:07 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: btweengigs]
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Just got a call from one under lockdown wanting to know if I could do a "virtual show" using a computer, ipad, phone, etc.


If anyone does this and DOESN'T charge for it, you will be setting a very dangerous precedent. After all - you are spending the same amount of time performing your show, and should be compensated. Maybe, just MAYBE give a small discount for reduced travel expenses, but I urge you - do not do this for free.
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#491474 - 03/13/20 03:20 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: btweengigs]
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Originally Posted By btweengigs
Scott... how do you imagine the residents would access your show.... on their phone, tablet or what?


In checking with my "computer scientist" wife she's saying it depends on their individual systems. Most places I go have a large screen TV. I guess I will need to call the different AD's and find out what kind of system they have and how it could be projected on their Smart? TV. Maybe from a computer, bluetooth, maybe directly on the TV. It will be a learning process but it's worth finding out about.

Another thought, maybe it could even be projected to the TV's in the resident's individual rooms. Good question.


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#491475 - 03/13/20 03:22 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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... presenting "YOU TUBE" this afternoon at 2 in the dining room.
Danger Will Robinson!!!
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#491476 - 03/13/20 04:28 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Uncle Dave]
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...and you could even do it in your pajamas. laugh

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#491477 - 03/13/20 04:33 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
... presenting "YOU TUBE" this afternoon at 2 in the dining room.
Danger Will Robinson!!!


`That’s not so far fetched, my late mother was in a NH/rehab for 2 weeks. The activity director also a singer once per week would use YouTube Karaoke on screen to entertain residents, it went over real well with the patients/residents.

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#491478 - 03/13/20 05:21 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: montunoman]
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Originally Posted By montunoman
We just returned from a trip to NYC( Hopefully unscathed ) to see my daughter and her school orchestra perform at Carnegie Hall. Now I’m hearing that all performances on Broadway and Carnegie Hall are cancelled. Looks like all my little bookings are getting cancelled for this month too. This is a bad time for performers everywhere!


Paul, that had to be a very proud and exciting time for you and your family ...
I had the thrill of performing there in my late teens with our music studio's accordion orchestra ...

The article about musicians losing work is right on ... and it's affecting EVERY profession and job category ...
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#491479 - 03/13/20 05:28 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: tony mads usa]
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We did some everyday shopping today ... One thing I don't understand is the run on paper products like paper towels, napkins, toilet paper ... shelves in Walmart and a super sized market were BARE !!!
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#491480 - 03/13/20 05:39 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: tony mads usa]
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Originally Posted By tony mads usa
We did some everyday shopping today ... One thing I don't understand is the run on paper products like paper towels, napkins, toilet paper ... shelves in Walmart and a super sized market were BARE !!!


Tony, Your experience in the north matched what we also found in WalMart today here in the south.

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#491481 - 03/13/20 05:50 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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I saw a couple in the supermarket today that checked the expiry date of canned food, only accepting dates of 2022. I don't know what scenario they were planning for - totally nuts.

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#491482 - 03/13/20 05:56 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Crossover]
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Yes, that sounds insane ...

Steve, how is the situation in FL ?
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#491483 - 03/13/20 06:11 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: rikkisbears]
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Thank you Rikki, after all the negatives and fears that have been posted comes a positive post by Rikki, not surprised.

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#491485 - 03/13/20 06:42 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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I've gotten email notices from three different service companies that their offices/service centers will be closed to walk-in customer service (paying bills, etc.) and that all such customer services will now have to be done online. This doesn't really affect me personally or the more tech-savvy seniors that populate this particular forum, but many elderly customers are not so tech-savvy (some don't even own computers) and still pay their bills, voice their complaints or requests for service, in person. Grandkids to the rescue, I suppose smile . Of course this will also affect the people who work in these service centers as well.

I stopped by the local Walmart early this morning hoping to beat the store traffic. No luck. The parking lot was filled to overflow at 8:30am. Shelves half bare, some totally bare. No toilet paper but plenty of ExLax (apparently nobody needs that smile ). Boy, sure hope this passes quickly (the virus, I mean - poor choice of words smile ). Stay safe everyone, wash your hands often and don't touch your ugly mug smile.

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#491487 - 03/13/20 06:53 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: tony mads usa]
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Originally Posted By tony mads usa
Yes, that sounds insane ...

Steve, how is the situation in FL ?


Tony, Everything here is a mirror of what’s happening around the country. There are a couple of venues that have well known musicians coming to play. The Platters show on March 20th that we have tickets for has been canceled. Trish Yearwood, David Foster and Paul Anka shows for next week are off too. There’s usually music and dancing outdoors at 3 town squares every night, originally they were going to be held then this afternoon they canceled them until further notice.

I’m waiting to hear from the coordinator whether my weekly piano solo gig in the lobby of the cancer center will be called off. I probably won’t hear anything until late Sunday or early Monday.

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#491489 - 03/13/20 07:07 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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DonM.... What's happening at Ernest's?

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#491491 - 03/13/20 07:19 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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I took off the month of March for vacation. Just got back from visiting relatives in Oklahoma, and I'm playing golf and fishing. First time off other that hospitals in MANY years.
I am supposed to go back first of April.
Haven't talked to Ernest, but I suppose I should.
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#491492 - 03/13/20 07:37 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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Today I got all the rest of my March gigs cancelled. I played my last March gig today and had to sign a form about travel -possible illnesses -etc and had my temp taken. I was the last entertainer they will have until May 1st.

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#491493 - 03/13/20 07:52 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: tony mads usa]
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Originally Posted By tony mads usa
We did some everyday shopping today ... One thing I don't understand is the run on paper products like paper towels, napkins, toilet paper ... shelves in Walmart and a super sized market were BARE !!!


+1 Tony - I went to Walmart yesterday looking for anything resembling hand sanitizer.... ha ha… fat chance of that. It was like a war zone in there. Bare shelves everywhere and 8-10 people lined up to ask the pharmacist questions.

I was going to try to make my own homebrew sanitizer - 2 parts Alcohol, 1 part Aloe Gel... but neither item to be found at Walmart for my experiment! Fortunately, on the way home, I took a chance and stopped at a Dollar Tree store... and it was my lucky day - they had just put out a case of 2-packs of the 2 oz hand sanitizer bottles... $1 a piece for 2 bottles! Bonus! I got several of them at a great price. One of the clerks said they had stocked 22 cases yesterday and I got the last few packages.

What is really scary is the self-proclaimed "entrepreneurs" who are cleaning the shelves as quick as items are stocked - and then listing $3 bottles of Purell for $149 a pop on Ebay. Very very sad indeed.

Scary times these are. Be safe out there y'all!
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#491494 - 03/13/20 08:04 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: saxxman]
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Originally Posted By saxxman

+1 Tony - I went to Walmart yesterday looking for anything resembling hand sanitizer.... ha ha… fat chance of that.
Scary times these are. Be safe out there y'all!


Our Walmart had sanitizer - one 16 oz bottle per customer ...
A super market had a limit of 3 cases of water per customer ...

Don't know if they had a limit on paper goods before they sold out ...
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#491496 - 03/13/20 10:53 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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I had a nightmare the other night. Big business will use this happening to eliminate music in nursing homes.

When it's all over, it wouldn't surprise me. It's all about money these days. If this goes any length of time, the nursing homes will be acclimated to "no music." Once the corporations who are buying up the senior facilities like chain restaurants realize they can save big bucks by running their operations without entertainment, that will become the status quo. Live music will take another hit and fade further into the background.

I hope I'm wrong!

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#491497 - 03/13/20 11:02 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: saxxman]
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Originally Posted By saxxman
I went to Walmart yesterday looking for anything resembling hand sanitizer.... ha ha… fat chance of that. It was like a war zone in there. Bare shelves everywhere and 8-10 people lined up to ask the pharmacist questions.


This disturbs me and frightens me more than the Corona Virus. Just when you think society has reached it's lowest point, it rallies and shows more of it's potential.

I made that remark while we were walking the aisles trying to find something edible at my local supermarket for supper.

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#491498 - 03/14/20 01:23 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: zuki]
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Now, Trump declares a National Emergency tomorrow. What next, Martial Law? Yikes
He first said coronavirus was a Democratic hoax. This dickhead wouldn't know if his ass was on fire and he is out to kill us all. Hopefully he goes first. And having been in contact with a coronavirus patient but still refuses to get tested he will do that for us. Sorry if you voted for him but that is something you need to reconcile with yourself.


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#491500 - 03/14/20 01:38 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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Stores plan there stock on expected demand, however they can sometimes get caught out by a sudden change, give it a couple of days for them to get more stock from the suppliers/manufactures, and you will find it will be pretty much back to normal.

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#491506 - 03/14/20 07:33 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: abacus]
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Maybe the wave of the future will be what was touched on. Not necessarily live video, but producing your own sing a long videos and selling them, or a subscription to them, to the facilities. Or some combination of it.

It's not what we want, it's not who most of us probably are, but it may be the wider part of the road ahead. It has become necessary to adapt to technology to keep up with our keyboards; this may require more of the same in the way of video technology. Unfortunately, it removes the human emotional exchange between performer and audience.

I hope this is only temporary, but this proves true, it sadly may send many of our group into retirement..


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#491507 - 03/14/20 09:49 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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All of my gigs have been cancelled or postponed. These gigs are not at NH or Assisted Living facilities.

If "live" music is eliminated and replaced by YouTube videos, the afore mentioned phrase: "Attention! Will Robinson. Danger! Danger!" looms ominously in our musical futures.

As it is already, our auto arranger keyboards eliminate other musicians in our acts. I would encourage one not to go any further down this slippery slope.
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#491508 - 03/14/20 10:02 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: cgiles]
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...still, given the fact that it seems to be most lethal to the elderly, and given the closed environment of a nursing home, wouldn't this be a place to exercise extra caution? Plus, most of the NH entertainers aren't exactly 'spring chickens' either. Just sayin'.

chas


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#491510 - 03/14/20 10:22 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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Just how contagious is the Carona Virus? Keep in mind that one of those gigantic cruise ships that ended up circling offshore for several days had just 21 cases, 19 of which were crew and 2 passengers tested positive. This out of more than 4,000 passengers crammed into a floating sardine can. Nearly everyone came in contact with an infected person, yet only 2 passengers actually tested positive. One of the medical professionals stated yesterday that the mist from a contagious cough would only carry about 5 feet and 6 feet at best, then dissipate. Additionally, there have been no mortalities in people over 50 years of age, worldwide.

The actual mortality rate is an unknown factor at this point, mainly because at the present time, it is only based upon reported cases. Medical specialist stated that there are likely many times more unreported cases, due to the fact that this merely mimics the common cold, for which people rarely see a physician, stay home, take aspirin and allow it to take it's course. After 10 days, the patient feels OK and goes about their regular, daily routine.

There seems to be more arm-chair specialists with absolutely no medical background or training making brash statements about this disease, especially in the press, where the motto is "If it bleeds, it leads."

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#491511 - 03/14/20 11:08 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By travlin'easy
Just how contagious is the Carona Virus? Keep in mind that one of those gigantic cruise ships that ended up circling offshore for several days had just 21 cases, 19 of which were crew and 2 passengers tested positive. This out of more than 4,000 passengers crammed into a floating sardine can. Nearly everyone came in contact with an infected person, yet only 2 passengers actually tested positive. One of the medical professionals stated yesterday that the mist from a contagious cough would only carry about 5 feet and 6 feet at best, then dissipate. Additionally, there have been no mortalities in people over 50 years of age, worldwide.

The actual mortality rate is an unknown factor at this point, mainly because at the present time, it is only based upon reported cases. Medical specialist stated that there are likely many times more unreported cases, due to the fact that this merely mimics the common cold, for which people rarely see a physician, stay home, take aspirin and allow it to take it's course. After 10 days, the patient feels OK and goes about their regular, daily routine.

There seems to be more arm-chair specialists with absolutely no medical background or training making brash statements about this disease, especially in the press, where the motto is "If it bleeds, it leads."

Gary :cool



Don’t know where you get your news from, (I hope it’s not Fox News as probably 90% of stuff on there is fake) but the mortality worldwide is a hell of a lot (Do some real research) with most being elderly or with complex health problems.
Don’t bury your head in the sand, as while there is a lot of hype and sensationalism in the news media it’s a serious problem. (Many countries are literally closed (And these are 1st world countries) with movement restricted and the US looks like it could follow a similar route due to its lethargic response at the beginning)

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#491513 - 03/14/20 11:29 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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Real lethality is assessed to be 0.5 to 1 percent by highly regarded virologists, which would already be 5 to 10 times as much as with a normal influenca. Statistically, it often exceeds 2 percent due to the dark figure of mild cases remaining untested.
In Italy, lethality is not only higher due to the dark figure, but also due to the terrible situation that there are not enough intensive care places with breathing equipment. Other countries will very soon run into the same problem unless drastic restrictions are put in place. No fun.


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#491514 - 03/14/20 11:29 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By travlin'easy
Additionally, there have been no mortalities in people over 50 years of age, worldwide.


There seems to be more arm-chair specialists with absolutely no medical background or training making brash statements about this disease, especially in the press, where the motto is "If it bleeds, it leads."

Gary :cool


So whom do we believe?!? I don't know ... confused1 :

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/learn-americans-died-coronavirus/story?id=69588942
"What we know and don’t about the Americans who died from coronavirus
At least 23 of the Americans who have died were over 70."


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/m...-at-the-numbers
… "and people aged over 50 experienced the highest rate of deaths"

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/12/21173783/coronavirus-death-age-covid-19-elderly-seniors
"In Italy, a country with one of the world’s oldest populations, a March 4 analysis by the national health institute found that of the 105 patients who died from the virus, the average age was 81. This put a 20-year gap between the average age of people who tested positive for the virus and the deceased, the institute said. On Friday, an ICU physician in Lombardy — the epicenter of Italy’s outbreak — told JAMA there have been only two deaths of people under the age of 50."

Cancer, heart disease, diabetes, suicides, humans, mosquitoes, and snakes are not contagious ...

Yes, the media LOVES to expound on any disaster,near or far, but I do believe CAUTION is the key right now ... AND washing your hands, including your wrists ...
just sayin'
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#491515 - 03/14/20 11:46 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: abacus]
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Originally Posted By abacus

Don’t know where you get your news from, (I hope it’s not Fox News as probably 90% of stuff on there is fake)
Bill


Bill ... I have lived by "believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see", but now even what we see is suspect because everything can be edited for the desired affect ...
As far as what is 'fake news', I find that people get their news from news stations that support their views ... so what is 'fake news' to one person on a certain station, is real to someone else and vice versa ... ME? ... I'm highly suspicious of them all because they all have their own agenda ...
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#491516 - 03/14/20 11:57 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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But if you listen to long interviews with highly credited virologists who already worked on SARS 1 in 2003, it should by a credible source of information for everyone...

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#491517 - 03/14/20 11:57 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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I'm still trying to locate the source suggesting... "If you suspect you have Corona Virus, you better have at least 647 rolls of toilet tissue for immediate access". Just sayin'...
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#491520 - 03/14/20 12:40 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: saxxman]
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Originally Posted By saxxman
I'm still trying to locate the source suggesting... "If you suspect you have Corona Virus, you better have at least 647 rolls of toilet tissue for immediate access". Just sayin'...


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#491521 - 03/14/20 01:19 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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I can't believe that after all the overwhelming evidence and the shutting down of all major sports, and closing off of entire countries, that we STILL have these 'doubting thomas's' still pushing the ridiculous theory that this is just more 'FAKE NEWS'. It's hard to believe that otherwise intelligent people are so full of the Trump koolaid that they STILL want to believe that this colossal crisis is 'not that bad'. SERIOUSLY!!! I can see the inscription on their tombstones now; "So, maybe it WASN'T fake news". Sad that political ideology can blind people to reality. Anybody see that "dear leader" performance by Pence in that recent WH press conference? Pathetic, to say the least, to see grown men sacrifice every scrap of dignity to please a narcissistic egomaniac. This pandemic is REAL, get used to it. Instead of pooh-poohing it, be a good citizen and take all the recommended precautions to help protect yourself, your family, and your neighbors, from this very REAL health crisis.

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#491525 - 03/14/20 02:07 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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Well said Chas. We have no "known" cases here yet but we do believe its coming or already here as there are no "beautiful" "perfect" tests being offered. We are taking precautions and everyone should without panicking. Better safe than sorry is a very true statement.
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#491528 - 03/14/20 02:27 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Nigel]
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Originally Posted By zuki
Now, Trump declares a National Emergency tomorrow. What next, Martial Law? Yikes
He first said coronavirus was a Democratic hoax. This dickhead wouldn't know if his ass was on fire and he is out to kill us all. Hopefully he goes first. And having been in contact with a coronavirus patient but still refuses to get tested he will do that for us. Sorry if you voted for him but that is something you need to reconcile with yourself.

Not sure what you mean...…..I didn't vote for him! I'm uptight after losing many jobs and not blaming anyone for it. It gives me time to figure out what keyboard I want because the 4X is going back. Just not like the 3 and I'll probably die playing that (or from sickness, whichever comes first)


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#491535 - 03/14/20 02:59 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: bruno123]
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Originally Posted By bruno123
Thank you Rikki, after all the negatives and fears that have been posted comes a positive post by Rikki, not surprised.

John C.


Thanks John,
Pity some others did bother reading my post.
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#491536 - 03/14/20 03:07 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: tony mads usa]
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Originally Posted By travlin'easy
Additionally, there have been no mortalities in people over 50 years of age, worldwide.


There seems to be more arm-chair specialists with absolutely no medical background or training making brash statements about this disease, especially in the press, where the motto is "If it bleeds, it leads."

Gary :cool



So whom do we believe?!? I don't know ... confused1 :

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/learn-americans-died-coronavirus/story?id=69588942
"What we know and don’t about the Americans who died from coronavirus
At least 23 of the Americans who have died were over 70."


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/m...-at-the-numbers
… "and people aged over 50 experienced the highest rate of deaths"

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/12/21173783/coronavirus-death-age-covid-19-elderly-seniors
"In Italy, a country with one of the world’s oldest populations, a March 4 analysis by the national health institute found that of the 105 patients who died from the virus, the average age was 81. This put a 20-year gap between the average age of people who tested positive for the virus and the deceased, the institute said. On Friday, an ICU physician in Lombardy — the epicenter of Italy’s outbreak — told JAMA there have been only two deaths of people under the age of 50."

Cancer, heart disease, diabetes, suicides, humans, mosquitoes, and snakes are not contagious ...

Yes, the media LOVES to expound on any disaster,near or far, but I do believe CAUTION is the key right now ... AND washing your hands, including your wrists ...
just sayin'


Tony ,
Maybe add this one to your list.

We have some brilliant scientists over here.

https://www.racq.com.au/Living/Articles/Queensland-developing-coronavirus-vaccine
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#491538 - 03/14/20 03:37 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: rikkisbears]
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Rikki, that is really great news ...
I will be praying for their success ...
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#491539 - 03/14/20 03:38 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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"Information should be interpreted cautiously. The data is partial and does not include cases for which patient demographics have not been released by local public health authorities. The data does not contain medical history, which is often crucial in helping medical professionals understand exactly why certain people are more likely to die than others.

The CDC has said repeatedly that people with underlying medical conditions, such as heart disease, diabetes and immune system disorders, are more likely to die of COVID-19."

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#491540 - 03/14/20 03:38 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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++1 to Rikki's post.

chas


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#491541 - 03/14/20 03:39 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: tony mads usa]
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zuki ... too bad about the 4x...
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#491542 - 03/14/20 04:06 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: tony mads usa]
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Originally Posted By tony mads usa
Rikki, that is really great news ...
I will be praying for their success ...


Hi Tony,
Let’s all pray that they’re successful.
Hopefully some of the hysteria with people hoarding toilet paper, hand sanitisers , etc will disappear, if they see a glimmer of hope.
It’s what it’s doing to humanity, that’s the scary part.

“I’m ok, I’ve got my 600 rolls of toilet paper, too bad about you”.
Sad to think that is the attitude of so many.
Wouldn’t have thought it possible with the horrendous fires we just went thru,firefighters risking their lives to save other people’s properties, and in some cases their own properties burnt to the ground , while helping others. and on the other hand you have these selfish people who couldn’t care less about anyone but themselves.
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#491547 - 03/14/20 04:43 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: rikkisbears]
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Yes, Rikki, people need some hope ... not that I would wish this on anyone, but hopefully celebs who have it, such as Tom Hanks, will recover quickly and show that it need not be a death sentence ...
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#491548 - 03/14/20 04:50 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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Hi Tony,
yes that is so sad about Tom Hanks and his wife.
Haven’t really heard much more on it, there again, haven’t really been watching the news that much, too depressing.
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#491553 - 03/14/20 05:16 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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Let’s pray that a cure is found and soon!

Jim on the 4x, I was cautiously optimistic and wasn’t so sure you’d take the 4x, I know you had one in the past and the 3x seemed to be your baby! You may as well stay with what you like best!

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#491556 - 03/14/20 05:23 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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Working as a part-time employed organist, I have just been informed that all church services until April 19 have been forbidden by our city administration. I am shocked - even Good Friday and Easter will be cancelled. No idea how to fulfill my weekly working hours that way, but that‘s a minor problem...

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#491560 - 03/14/20 07:00 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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I don't know about the other folks on the forum, but suffering from pulmonary fibrosis and living on just 14 to 15 percent of my lung capacity, and recently suffering a stroke, I am in the high risk category for dying from even a common cold, let alone the Carona virus. I wash my hands frequently, probably 10 or more times a day, avoid crowded locations and individuals that show some symptoms of being sick with some sort of contagious disease.

As for the number of under 50 fatalities, that was on the radio as of last Wednesday, Bill. Whether or not it was fake news, I have no idea, but it was a statement made by the US Surgeon General during a press conference.

I spent a lot of my working life working in the field of medicine. I worked in the University of Maryland Shock Trauma Center, the ICU, the ER of 4 hospitals, spent two years in surgical research, and directed the Pulmonary Function Lab of Johns Hopkins Hospital. I also worked with some of the most contagious patients on the planet at the time, those who were afflicted with tuberculosis and confined to Mount Wilson Hospital, a TB sanitarium just outside the Baltimore City limits. I was very careful in treating those individuals, took every precaution, and never tested positive for TB.

Now, I am by no means an expert on communicable diseases or a virologist, and never claimed to be. I'm proud of my medical background, training and expertise. I helped save a lot of lives during my tenure, often neglecting the needs of my family and risking my own well-being in the process. However, in this particular instance, I must respect the information being put forth by highly trained experts in the medical field - not a bunch of left-wing politicians with an axe to grind and reporters who thrive on sensationalism and half truths. I respect President Trump for acting quickly, and Mike Pence for putting together the top medical team on the globe to come up with a viable solution and prevent as many deaths as possible. And, The President has tested negative for the virus. I think he caved in to the press on this one, because he was tested despite the fact that he showed no symptoms whatsoever.

Now, to be on the safe side, I think I'll just excuse my self from this thread, get a tall glass of bourbon and watch Fox News.

Stay safe,

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#491564 - 03/14/20 07:45 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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he "CAVED"???? He's the president of the United States and he was exposed to people KNOWN to have tested positive for the virus. Didn't he have a responsibility to the country, not to mention his family and staff, to insure that he was not infected? I'm truly sorry for the state of your health and wish you nothing but the best, but when one is so blinded by political ideology that they can't accept the truth in the face of overwhelming evidence, then it really taints your credibility in every other area. The entire world is shaking in it's collective boots and you think it's a "bunch of left-wing politicians with an axe to grind" and "reporters who thrive on sensationalism and half-truths". Heck, even the most rabid right-wing, MAGA-hat-wearing, gun-totin', beer guzzling, NASCAR-loving, Trumpy, is still out there stocking up on Purel and Clorox Wipes...oh, and toilet paper.

Wake up man, THE END IS NEAR! smile smile

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#491567 - 03/14/20 08:14 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: travlin'easy]
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Hi Gary,
Sadly here too.
Our prime minister here is being fully guided as to what to do by our chief medical officer , ( the guy in charge with the health of our nation) ,but , some of the press and the opposition party here seem to feel they know better than the professionals in charge, and stir the public into a panic.

Our opposition leader the other day , instead of attending a briefing to which he was invited, with experts on the current corona situation, decided it was more important to go to a function to meet players from his favourite football team and get some happy snaps , rather than get himself informed on what is going on with the corona virus.

Enough said.


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#491569 - 03/14/20 08:22 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: rikkisbears]
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This is a HEALTH crisis ... let's do what we can for those who may not be able to do for themselves, and leave politics and politicians out of it ... Lord knows THEY are not the ones who are going to resolve this crisis ...

And in the spirit of helping, I got a text message from our young neighbors, saying that if we needed anything to not hesitate to call them ...
I guess they realize I'm OLD !!! frown
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#491570 - 03/14/20 08:26 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: tony mads usa]
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Originally Posted By tony mads usa


And in the spirit of helping, I got a text message from our young neighbors, saying that if we needed anything to not hesitate to call them ...(


Wow, that is really nice to have such great neighbors.
(I deleted that last sentence, not true.)
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#491571 - 03/14/20 08:30 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: rikkisbears]
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Originally Posted By rikkisbears
Originally Posted By tony mads usa


And in the spirit of helping, I got a text message from our young neighbors, saying that if we needed anything to not hesitate to call them ...(


Wow, that is really nice to have such great neighbors.
(I deleted that last sentence, not true.)



You're too cute, Rikki ... thank you ...
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#491591 - 03/15/20 06:38 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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German researchers in Tübingen are working on a vaccine. Their work is so promising that Trump is now trying to buy them over to the US and then license the future vaccine for the US exclusively. This egomaniac knows how to display selfishness among nations during a pandemic.

I think I can predict how this will turn out: in the end Trump will say: „I saved the world from Corona.“

I can only provide German-language sources:
https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/corona-impfstoff-deutschland-usa-101.html


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#491602 - 03/15/20 08:14 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Crossover]
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Originally Posted By Crossover
German researchers in Tübingen are working on a vaccine. Their work is so promising that Trump is now trying to buy them over to the US and then license the future vaccine for the US exclusively. This egomaniac knows how to display selfishness among nations during a pandemic.

I think I can predict how this will turn out: in the end Trump will say: „I saved the world from Corona.“

I can only provide German-language sources:
https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/corona-impfstoff-deutschland-usa-101.html


The article states "the paper quotes an anonymous source."

Don't believe it.

Jerryghr


Edited by Jerryghr (03/15/20 08:21 AM)

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#491607 - 03/15/20 08:25 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Jerryghr]
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Originally Posted By Jerryghr
Originally Posted By Crossover
German researchers in Tübingen are working on a vaccine. Their work is so promising that Trump is now trying to buy them over to the US and then license the future vaccine for the US exclusively. This egomaniac knows how to display selfishness among nations during a pandemic.

I think I can predict how this will turn out: in the end Trump will say: „I saved the world from Corona.“

I can only provide German-language sources:
https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/corona-impfstoff-deutschland-usa-101.html


The article states "the paper quotes an anonymous source."

Don't believe it.

Jerryghr


It’s very reliable. Several reliable media are reporting the same. Tagesschau is like NPR in the US. It is the top news broadcast in Germany, broadcast by the largest public-funded TV/radio network in Germany, and the most untypical medium imaginable for fake news. (Only the far-right hate it because this network tends to be politically correct).


Edited by Crossover (03/15/20 08:34 AM)

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#491610 - 03/15/20 08:46 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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I agree with Gary, this is a major overreaction. We have had outbreaks in the past and have never canceled all the professional sports and everything else that is going on. The only thing the Masters was canceled for previously was WWII and this is not in that league. There are a few reasons for this overreaction. One is the young people have grown up in a world where all they have heard is "safety is the most important thing." So this overreaction seems normal to them and the "politically correct" thing to do.

But what this is really about is this: companies don't want to be sued and politicians don't want to be blamed. Take common sense measures but no need to make people so afraid that they buy all the toilet paper. We just had 2 deaths in NY and guess who it was? Two old people who had underlying conditions. The media in the US needs to be reformed. They are self-serving beasts who are just interested in ratings and promoting their own agendas. But it won't happen until people wake up and boycott not only them but the networks they work for and all their favorite shows. (rant off)

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#491617 - 03/15/20 10:09 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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I think in this case we needn‘t argue but just wait for nature to give the answer...

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#491620 - 03/15/20 10:28 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Crossover]
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Originally Posted By Crossover
I think in this case we needn‘t argue but just wait for nature to give the answer...

Hey...There's an idea. clap clap clap

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#491658 - 03/15/20 08:19 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Crossover]
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Originally Posted By Crossover
Tagesschau is like NPR in the US. It is the top news broadcast in Germany, broadcast by the largest public-funded TV/radio network in Germany, and the most untypical medium imaginable for fake news. (Only the far-right hate it because this network tends to be politically correct).


(Only the far-right hate it because this network tends to be politically correct).

I have no idea as to the veracity of the story, but as I believe I said in an earlier, regardless of what side of the fence one is on "fake news" is that news that goes against one's leanings or beliefs ...
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#491660 - 03/15/20 09:36 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: tony mads usa]
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Originally Posted By tony mads usa
Originally Posted By Crossover
Tagesschau is like NPR in the US. It is the top news broadcast in Germany, broadcast by the largest public-funded TV/radio network in Germany, and the most untypical medium imaginable for fake news. (Only the far-right hate it because this network tends to be politically correct).


(Only the far-right hate it because this network tends to be politically correct).

I have no idea as to the veracity of the story, but as I believe I said in an earlier, regardless of what side of the fence one is on "fake news" is that news that goes against one's leanings or beliefs ...


I could not disagree more. Fake news has nothing to do with what one's leanings or beliefs are. It's got to do whether it is actually true or not.

I hear fake news on all sides. On CNN as well as FOX.

Also, neither the Democrats nor the Republicans have a monopoly on stupid.

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#491666 - 03/16/20 03:10 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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Hi Scott, your post is right to the point, thanks. I feel that they are all telling the truth, laced with lies; whichever fits their purpose. When I started sending political news to my family, they said that, that kind of news produces hate. They were right. No matter how good, or true it may seem, it has, for the most part, one purpose; and that is to hate the other guy; or frighten us, which means, attacking our learning and beleifs.

Tony says, “Fake news is that news which goes against one’s learnings and beliefs”.
I feel that fake news places us in a position of how are we to handle this fake news ---- without becoming like them.

Tony, would you expand on your statement, I think that it is needed in times like these?
John C.

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#491669 - 03/16/20 03:46 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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Read the news and information from a dozen different sources, (Whether you believe or support them or not) then look for all the common points and lay them out, the odds are you will then have the accurate information that you can rely on. (By law they cannot lie, but can put it in such a way that it appears to mean something different, putting all the commonality’s together gets round this)

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#491680 - 03/16/20 06:43 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: bruno123]
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Originally Posted By Scott Langholff
Originally Posted By tony mads usa

(Only the far-right hate it because this network tends to be politically correct).

I have no idea as to the veracity of the story, but as I believe I said in an earlier, regardless of what side of the fence one is on "fake news" is that news that goes against one's leanings or beliefs ...


I could not disagree more. Fake news has nothing to do with what one's leanings or beliefs are. It's got to do whether it is actually true or not.
I hear fake news on all sides. On CNN as well as FOX.
Also, neither the Democrats nor the Republicans have a monopoly on stupid.
Scott


Scott, I am basically in agreement with you ... I did not say one station has fake news, the other has not ... In an earlier post I even stated that I don't trust any of them, because they all have their own agenda ...

Originally Posted By bruno123

Tony says, “Fake news is that news which goes against one’s learnings and beliefs”.
I feel that fake news places us in a position of how are we to handle this fake news ---- without becoming like them.
Tony, would you expand on your statement, I think that it is needed in times like these?
John C.


John, first a slight correction - I said "leanings" not "learnings" ...

I think I explained part of it in my response to Scott, but to add, all too often I will hear "I don't watch 'XXX' (fill in any news station) because that's all fake news ... In fact, in a recent post someone said about FOX 'it's 90% fake news' ... So it may be too broad a generalization, but I think people watch certain news stations because the news is going to be presented in a way that tracks their beliefs ...
Too bad we can't go back to when news was news, and not sensationalism ...

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#491691 - 03/16/20 08:38 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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yeh, let's go back to Walter Cronkite and his totally one sided liberal presentation or the outright lies about Bushes service in the National Guard. I agree with Scott, it comes from both sides. My daddy told me years ago to "not believe everything you read". It's unfortunate that we've gotten to the point that we can't believe anything we read!
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#491692 - 03/16/20 09:09 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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Unfortunately, some people don't understand what exponential growth is. The proliferation of bacteria, infections with a virus and many processes in nature happen with exponential growth. In the case of Corona, it is determined by the factor that one infected person usually infects 3 others.

European countries have observed that every three days the number of infected people is doubling. The growth is slow in the beginning, and from a certain point on it explodes.

If one is optimistic and supposes that numbers only double once a week in the US AND forget about the massive dark figure, you'd end up here:

March 16: 4,000
March 23: 8,000
March 30: 16,000
April 07: 32,000
April 14: 64,000
April 21: 128,000
April 28: 256,000
May 05: 512,000
May 12: 1 million
May 19: 2m
May 26: 4m
June 2: 8m
June 9: 16m
June 16: 32m
June 23: 64m
June 30: 128m
July 7: 256m.

That was a very optimistic scenario for the case that no restrictions are put in place.

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#491732 - 03/16/20 02:03 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: tony mads usa]
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Originally Posted By tony mads usa

I think people watch certain news stations because the news is going to be presented in a way that tracks their beliefs ...
Too bad we can't go back to when news was news, and not sensationalism ...


Spot on Tony, don’t think we’d have anywhere near the hysteria if the news was reported accurately.

Our chief medical officer tells us to do one thing, our left leaning national broadcaster finds a doctor of their own and starts disputing some of the advice.

Know who I’m listening too, and it ain’t the sensationalising news channel, with its armchair presenters giving medical advice as to what we should or shouldn’t be doing.


Edited by rikkisbears (03/16/20 02:07 PM)
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#491743 - 03/16/20 04:04 PM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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Don't need to listen to any news outlet. Stick with official announcements from Provincial/State/National health authorities.

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#491770 - 03/17/20 02:42 AM Re: First 3 cancellations in one hour over Corona viru [Re: Scott Langholff]
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