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#485812 - 01/04/20 11:29 AM
Re: 3rd Time is the Charm.............
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15556
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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In my case, Donny, I've already done all the things everyone else dreamed of doing, but never got around to doing it. Gary
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#485867 - 01/05/20 03:49 AM
Re: 3rd Time is the Charm.............
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4912
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
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Donny, I think you are a bit crazy when it comes to keyboards, but I admire the part of you that’s true to yourself.
NOBODY knows Donny but Donny, Amen!
Donny, enjoy making your music, it’s part of you. There is only one regret I worry about, and that is not doing what I wanted to do.
The best to you, enjoy, smile big, and sing your heart out, John C.
PS, let us know how you are using and enjoying your Roland. Who knows I may be tempted -- Fran, Don, and now Donny????? Hmmmmmm?
Edited by bruno123 (01/05/20 03:51 AM)
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#485885 - 01/05/20 08:48 AM
Re: 3rd Time is the Charm.............
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 12800
Loc: Penn Yan, NY
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While I liked the size of the EA7, I felt that the sound was a bit too "boxy". I think the speaker chambers need to be larger, or deeper. There's plenty of power, but it doesn't show off the fullness of the sounds. Doesn't fill much of the space in front of the player. If you listen through a good system, it's much improved, but as I've said many times ... the internal speakers are an important monitor source for me, and if I don't like the sound in my face, it won't matter what it sounds like in the PA. I've also become very comfortable with a larger touchscreen, and I see the dual, tiny screens as a step backwards. Some navigational features are functional, and some are intuitive, and I think, without a lot of time spent on it, most of the other arranger products are easier to "drive" than the EA. I'm just weighing in with my thoughts after spending a day with it (Fran and I swapped when I had the EK-50), and it's purely subjective, as are all of our opinions. If I had to rate it, I'd give the sounds, and rhythms a solid A, but the screens, and button layout drop it down to a C+ for me. Funny, I have so much Roland stuff in my studio (LOVE their amps, and effects) but the keys have been Korg, and Yamaha for the last 20 years. The last Roland arranger I had was the VA-7 ... I loved the sound, but hated the navigation. Chocolate and Vanilla? Perhaps. Now, to enjoy my day off that the EAGLES have graciously provided me with.
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#485928 - 01/05/20 05:06 PM
Re: 3rd Time is the Charm.............
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15556
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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I discovered the drawback of using the keyboard's onboard sound system as a monitor many years ago while playing a large senior center in Bel Air, Maryland. I was using the Bose L1 PAS system at the time, fired up the keyboard, activated my setup registration, then tinkled a few piano notes which sounded fine. The venue held about 300 ppl and there were about 250 in attendance. The crowd noise was somewhat loud and the acoustics were just awful, almost like playing in a gymnasium, hard tile walls, hardwood floors, lots of high, glass windows. This was one of the few times I did not fire up a midi file and do a walk around sound check. The very first song I performed was Swinging Doors A Jukebox And A Bar Stool. This was a died in the wool country music audience and this song always went over well with them in the past. After the second song, with absolutely no audience response, a lady in the front row came up to me and asked if I could turn up the volume. So I cranked up the main on the keyboard, and she indicated that she still could not hear me. Then I looked down at the Bose L1 PAS, which is a real powerhouse of a PA system and noticed the power indicator light was not on - I had forgot to plug in the power cord. I could hear myself just fine, but the audience, obviously, could not. That never happened again, and I immediately inserted the dead head plug into the headphone jack on the keyboard and the audience came alive for the next two hours. I'm not sure if anyone else made the same, stupid mistake I did that day, but I seriously doubt that I'm the Lone Ranger in this instance. Like I stated earlier, I want to hear exactly what my audiences hear. If I don't like what I'm hearing, I'm sure they won't like it as well. As for the keyboard contributing to the overall sound quality with the onboard speakers, I seriously doubt that is the case. Granted, it contributes to what the player hears, but beyond that, I don't think the audiences hear anything other than what is emitted from the PA system at distances greater than 10 to 15 feet, even if the keyboard's volume was cranked up to max. JMO, Gary
Edited by travlin'easy (01/05/20 05:09 PM)
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#485934 - 01/05/20 05:21 PM
Re: 3rd Time is the Charm.............
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 12800
Loc: Penn Yan, NY
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Here it is in a nutshell. My "sound" consists of the combination of my voice, and the music that accompanies it. I create that blend in my stage space and the total combination of tones covers a small, 6-10ft area directly in front of me. In some rooms, that's all I need to cover, but for most others, I need to reinforce the sound throughout the room. Yup - that's why it's called sound reinforcement. It's pretty simple, really ... I have one sound pressure level at the point of origin, and a mix of that sound that is fed into speakers that project the sound further out. If I turn off the main system, my coverage is minimal, but it's balanced to please me, and hopefully to please the audiences that have hired me back for 50 years. (first paid job was 1969, but had bands a few years prior) When the sound of the room itself, is louder than my stage area, I need to turn up the main PA to fill the rest of the room, and many times I need to readjust that level more than once. The room has an ebb and flow ... a tempo, and an energy that I orchestrate. Volume, and presence are tools that I use to accomplish this. The idea of monitoring from a tower behind me doesn't allow me to keep my sound "in my face", so I rely on that "up close" on stage presence to keep me honest. I am constantly aware of the room sound, and level, and I check and modify it as needed. Every room is different, and ever performance is different, so I minimize the surprises by creating my "sonic bubble" to reside in ... during work hours. Works for me, cuz they keep asking me back. Not changing a thing.
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#485943 - 01/06/20 04:05 AM
Re: 3rd Time is the Charm.............
[Re: jingleman]
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
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Jingleman even with EQ setup? Maybe Fran can chime in? To me it just sounded as though the DAC’s weren’t reproducing the quality that the higher end E series did. From what I’ve heard...the EA7 sounds much fuller. I think Roland just missed the mark with the bk5, especially since the ea7 is just a few hundred dollars more. I love the Roland styles...but the bk5 just didn’t do them justice. With my old band , I switched from the Roland Prelude to the BK5.(Small footprint of the keyboards). The Prelude definitely did sound better then the BK5 (from the built in speakers). The BK5 did have a thinness to it.(most likely eq'd to allow the speakers handle the sounds). It reminded me of older times using Roland JP8, Junos, and JX10....switching to Roland U20 . Thin sound was evident, but the samples of U20 were great. The E-A7 is worth the difference in cost over the BK5. It is worth mentioning the BK5 does shine when set up with a mixer and decent sound system... On stage it lacks nothing in the sound department. My old band still uses the BK5 and they sound great(even without me) I also did not like the jog wheel on the BK5( I don't like the wheel on the BK9 also). Navigation and features are so much better on the E-A7.
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