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#483750 - 12/11/19 02:24 PM Farther Time
cgiles Offline
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Donny just said something in another post and although funny, it struck a familiar and uncomfortable chord. His post -

"At this age your lucky you can remember
how to tie your own shoes... Just sayin'.."

Truth is, he's right. I have noticed the effects of aging in several ways:

1. Slightly harder to learn new systems (and songs) but even harder to RETAIN them. Strangely, no problem remembering tunes from 30-50 yrs ago.

2. Fingering mistakes and uneven pressure or velocity when playing chords or arpeggios, ie. some notes won't sound.

3. Harder to bring myself to learn new tunes and more reliance on familiar 'riffs' during solos instead of 'stretching' to be more creative.

4. Planned (self) rehearsals turn into private jam sessions (of familiar tunes) in about 5 minutes after I start smile.

5. Struggling with the operation of previously well-known but seldom used equipment (forgetfulness)

6. Former 2hr playing/practicing sessions have devolved into 20-30 min. sessions.

7. Well organized music (studio/rehearsal) space has turned into 'clutter' heaven.

8. Reading, even Fakebook reading, has deteriorated considerably.

This seems to have started or at least become more noticeable about two years or so ago when I stopped gigging; but then I'm also two years older smile so who knows if that's a connection. Just wondering if any of you are seeing any of the same or similar things as Father Time does his thing. Oh, also forgot; I've developed a condition with my left ring finger which Russ is pretty sure the condition known as 'trigger finger'. It DOES affect my playing. Your thoughts, if you care to share them.

chas
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#483755 - 12/11/19 02:48 PM Re: Farther Time [Re: cgiles]
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I've been out of the business since '07. I agree , if you don't use it ,you lose it.
If fact I've been gently replaced at our over 55 community Christmas party by a 30 year old cute female singer using her iPhone into my PA system. After 3 or 4 years of playing I suggested that maybe they should consider other entertainment . It's not that I'm tired of playing the party ,I figured the residents would like a change so I'm ok with the change. I'm 72 with a host of health issues, I don't mind leaving the stage to her( she's really good , so is her husband). But over this time I am facing the same issues, to the point of maybe closing up shop completely and convert the studio ,office to a spare bedroom. The party was last night , she was great . Today while I was in the exercise room ,one of the residents come up to me and said "I have to say something to you( I'm thinking oh boy , she got a complaint since I help out in the office) , we love her singing but we miss you)) I respectfully thanked her and explained to her that it's time for the torch to be passed. She agreed . It's not easy to move on. Sorry for the long post.

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#483758 - 12/11/19 03:05 PM Re: Farther Time [Re: cgiles]
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Agree with each point. Have been thinking of posting same general points. The question is, at 76 how do I gst mrself back on track?
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#483764 - 12/11/19 03:45 PM Re: Farther Time [Re: ekurburski]
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Starting this year, everything seems to take more effort.

The same restrictions are affecting my writing, photography...everything I love to do...everything people are counting on me for.

It would not be hard to stop playing for the public. I do over 100 hours a month of "balls to the wall" recording under contract and another 60 hours on my own projects. I just used the live stuff to meet clients for my business, and to keep the pressure of "one shot" performance at the forefront. I think that an hour of playing for people in real time is more beneficial that 2 hours of the stops and starts you can do on a studio job.

I've started the transition. I'm off motorcycles and am selling the Cessna 180. I have taken over thirty collectible firearms to a broker to sell. We are starting a Reverb store and will have over 150 stringed instruments listed around the first of the year. Four motorcycles and three cars are going to be sold or donated. Too much stuff and clutter.

After working with them for 35 years, I am resigning 5 bank customer accounts. That alone will eliminate over 6,000 miles of driving a year.

On the flip side, business from my clients in Atalanta will double soon, and I have made commitments to work on a variety of big projects for them until 2025, if I stay healthy and alive.

The University wants a commitment to complete several writing projects a colleague started. I was his ghost writer. That will take 10 hours a week for several years.

Thing is, all this stuff is equally important to me.

Next year and those after (however many there are) will be interesting.

Russ


Edited by captain Russ (12/11/19 04:11 PM)

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#483767 - 12/11/19 03:55 PM Re: Farther Time [Re: cgiles]
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If I wanted to make a list like Chas did, I would throw all my stuff away; my keyboards and my guitars. AND, my list would be longer.

Because I want to enjoy what is left of me, I do not have a list --- I just enjoy, BIG TIME, playing and sing. It’s not over yet.

John C.

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#483774 - 12/11/19 04:25 PM Re: Farther Time [Re: cgiles]
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Keep in mind that getting old isn't for wimps and sissies - all that stuff about the golden years is pure crap! I should know. smile

While I was working in the musical entertainment industry, I set a goal to learn at least one new song every week. And for many years I was able to meet that goal. But as my health began to deteriorate, the goal went to learning one new song a month. I still try to do this, even though I have been retired for more than 2 years. I find the biggest challenge for me now is my vocals, mainly because quality vocals take a lot of air, and I no longer have a lot of anything left to work with.

Good luck, Chas, and Keep On Keeping On,

Gary cool
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#483777 - 12/11/19 04:42 PM Re: Farther Time [Re: cgiles]
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What "Golden Years"... Gary??? LOL!

Pure crap is a pretty good description... with a few exceptions. First and foremost, being above ground. Being married to the same lady for 59 years is a close second. Discovering the General Arranger Forum at the SynthZone was almost as good as playing golf... when I could. Playing chess twice a week to keep the stuff between my ears well exercised allows me to schmooze with a few friends and keep up with goings-on here in West Mayberry.

Chas:

You are observant, smart and organized. Keep doing what you are doing to exercise that great brain of yours. Short Term Memory Loss is something to discuss with a qualified Doctor and explore your diet, habits, exercise, etc. I don't mean to alarm you... just to offer advice to help you ward-off the most feared and destructive ailment in medical circles today... and probably longer than when we first gave it a name.

Few of us here are Spring Chickens and having a forum to use for spending time communicating with each other is another way to keep our minds active.

As always, all my best. You are my heroes!

----Dave


Edited by Riceroni9 (12/11/19 08:04 PM)
Edit Reason: Old age!

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#483778 - 12/11/19 04:44 PM Re: Farther Time [Re: cgiles]
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FARTHER?

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#483779 - 12/11/19 04:44 PM Re: Farther Time [Re: travlin'easy]
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"all that stuff about the golden years is pure crap! I should know"

Gary, I am with you most of the time, but there are some of us who find their Golden Years rewarding. Maybe not physically, but there is more to life.

John C.

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#483784 - 12/11/19 04:54 PM Re: Farther Time [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
FARTHER?
Originally Posted By Dnj
FARTHER?

your / you’re ?
smile
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#483786 - 12/11/19 04:58 PM Re: Farther Time [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
Originally Posted By Dnj
FARTHER?
Originally Posted By Dnj
FARTHER?

your / you’re ?
smile


Bae? drink

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#483790 - 12/11/19 05:04 PM Re: Farther Time [Re: cgiles]
cgiles Offline
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Yeah Donny, you got me. I noticed my spelling error a while back and waiting to see who would be the first to pick it up....glad it was a scholar and linguist such as yourself. Hopefully, I won't keep REPEATING mine.

chas
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#483803 - 12/11/19 06:17 PM Re: Farther Time [Re: cgiles]
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#483804 - 12/11/19 06:18 PM Re: Farther Time [Re: wrinkles303]
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On the hand.........
1. I can play my keyboards anytime I want .
2. I have a wife that allows me to buy any keyboard I want . Strange I have no desire for a genos ,sx900 , etc. the only reason she doesn't want me to play out is that she sees the damage it does to my body and spirit but won't stand in my way if I really want to play with some old friends in a jam session.
3 . Kids are raised and out ,
4. I live in a GREAT retirement community with awesome people.
5. I no longer have to worry about having to pay car payments, rent, equipment payments
Kids , tours,not being home for,births,Christmas, school plays etc.
6. No I can't play B3 anymore, can't lift my equipment, can't stay awake past 9 pm to play,
But life with all its challenges is pretty good . It's all about attitude.

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#483809 - 12/11/19 06:28 PM Re: Farther Time [Re: cgiles]
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Originally Posted By cgiles
Yeah Donny, you got me. I noticed my spelling error a while back and waiting to see who would be the first to pick it up....glad it was a scholar and linguist such as yourself. Hopefully, I won't keep REPEATING mine.

chas


Chas,

I noticed a few of our members have developed a case of "Grammar pedantry syndrome"

Jerryghr

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#483813 - 12/11/19 06:55 PM Re: Farther Time [Re: Jerryghr]
cgiles Offline
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Originally Posted By Jerryghr


Chas,

I noticed a few of our members have developed a case of "Grammar pedantry syndrome"

Jerryghr


Yeah, and not at all the one you'd expect smile.

chas
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#483863 - 12/12/19 08:00 AM Re: Farther Time [Re: cgiles]
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Chas- all of the above regarding your list..especially practice sessions becoming shorter and including same favorites. And my ability to learn more complicated systems has lessened as the technology increases..
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#483869 - 12/12/19 08:34 AM Re: Farther Time [Re: cgiles]
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It is difficult to walk into my studio and do what I NEED TO. Even with a heavy gig load, I find myself wanting to do other things when I'm home.

It's called discipline. I just "do it" and once I start into the process, it becomes easier to hang in there and put in a few hours.

I'm sure glad I do, because when I get to the gig, the excitement of doing a newly worked song is refreshing and challenging. If I get stale, I will probably quit. I don't want to quit. Simple as that - choices.

Even after gigging, I trick myself: I usually go back and forth, making dinner, more music, etc. I stand up at home and rehearse so it's not up and down off the chair. My wife is patient with me and lets me do my thing - even after not seeing each other all day.


Edited by zuki (12/12/19 08:37 AM)
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#483870 - 12/12/19 08:40 AM Re: Farther Time [Re: sparky589]
tony mads usa Offline
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Well, as Gary says, "Getting old ain't for wimps" ...

Trying to keep my brain functions active, every morning during my second and third cups of coffee, I attempt to finish the crossword puzzle and the Jumble puzzle ... Our local paper publishes 2 crosswords each day - not bragging, but one is so simple its almost 'fill in the blanks' - the other is the LA Times daily puzzle which starts out fairly easy on Monday and gets more difficult as the week progresses ... I usually do pretty well, completing most of them.

I also suffer from 'trigger finger' in both hands ... sometimes I actually have to pry one of them open ... Fortunately, it has not hampered my playing KB ...

Last July I landed in the hospital with a blood pressure of 210/110 ... a few tests later and they found a 50% blockage in one artery- fortunately not bad enough for a stent - Long story short, I got into a cardiac rehab program -two days a week, 4 hours each day, 9 weeks, all with the same group of 12 people ... 1 hour exercise, 1 hour nutrition education, 1 hour group therapy, 1 hour stress management ... 9 weeks later, I lost 21 lbs, my overall cholesterol dropped 20 points to 135, and my exercise energy factor increased by a factor of 3 ...
So now, I'm trying to eat better, exercise at the gym on a regular basis, and pay more attention to stress factors - like the idiot in the car in front of me who is not driving at the speed limit, just sayin' wink
Point is, as we get older, I think we have to be more aware of what we are doing - or not doing - to keep ourselves as healthy as possible ... As one guy at the 'program' put it "I don't necessarily want to live LONGER, but I want to fully enjoy what life I have left" ...

Keep on Keepin' on ...
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#483871 - 12/12/19 08:46 AM Re: Farther Time [Re: cgiles]
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Originally Posted By cgiles
Yeah Donny, you got me. I noticed my spelling error a while back and waiting to see who would be the first to pick it up....glad it was a scholar and linguist such as yourself. Hopefully, I won't keep REPEATING mine.

chas


Chas hang in there,your Grammer will get better with time.
...I understand..the whole system and structure of a language or of languages in general, usually taken as consisting of syntax and morphology (including inflections) and sometimes also phonology and semantics.

Just sayin'

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#483885 - 12/12/19 09:46 AM Re: Farther Time [Re: Dnj]
cgiles Offline
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Originally Posted By Dnj


Chas hang in there,your Grammer will get better with time.
...I understand..the whole system and structure of a language or of languages in general, usually taken as consisting of syntax and morphology (including inflections) and sometimes also phonology and semantics.

Just sayin'


Uh Donny, look up OVERREACH! It was just a misspelled word smile.

just sayin'.

chas
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#483891 - 12/12/19 10:03 AM Re: Farther Time [Re: cgiles]
tony mads usa Offline
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Originally Posted By Dnj


Chas hang in there,your Grammer will get better with time.
...I understand..the whole system and structure of a language or of languages in general, usually taken as consisting of syntax and morphology (including inflections) and sometimes also phonology and semantics.

Just sayin'


Originally Posted By cgiles

Uh Donny, look up OVERREACH! It was just a misspelled word smile.

just sayin'.

chas


laugh2 I thought Donny's post was funny ...
And speaking of misspelled words - 'Grammer' ?
The irony of it all ...
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#483892 - 12/12/19 10:11 AM Re: Farther Time [Re: cgiles]
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#483900 - 12/12/19 11:21 AM Re: Farther Time [Re: cgiles]
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Ah Shucks public school grrr

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#483903 - 12/12/19 11:43 AM Re: Farther Time [Re: Dnj]
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grin

Hey, didn't your go to Msgr. Farrell?
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#483920 - 12/12/19 12:55 PM Re: Farther Time [Re: tony mads usa]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By tony mads usa
grin

Hey, didn't your go to Msgr. Farrell?


Not me I wasn't eligible for CS...
but we did shoot our bands pics on the grounds of Msgr. Farrell
years ago.

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#483944 - 12/12/19 02:45 PM Re: Farther Time [Re: Dnj]
tony mads usa Offline
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laugh2 I remember seeing that pic, that's why I thought you went there ...
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#483950 - 12/12/19 03:21 PM Re: Farther Time [Re: tony mads usa]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By tony mads usa
grin

Hey, didn't your go to Msgr. Farrell?


Oh you meant didn’t "you" go..? 🤔


Edited by Dnj (12/12/19 03:22 PM)

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#483976 - 12/12/19 06:28 PM Re: Farther Time [Re: Dnj]
tony mads usa Offline
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By tony mads usa
grin

Hey, didn't your go to Msgr. Farrell?


Oh you meant didn’t "you" go..? 🤔


Got me ...
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