I am considering turning my Genos into a dusl manual organ setup. (No pedals)
I will be usinging V-console

https://www.tyrosmagic.com/v-console

And a 2nd keyboard as lower for just midi out..

However i am having a hard time finding the right key for the lower position

People are suggesting Yamaha piagero np32, but i don’t really like the keyaction
There is also the 88 key stdiologic compct 2ex.. which has supposedly better Keyaction

Another option is using an old arranger keyboard.. setting it up so it boots into sending midi out ... but which old keyboards still have great action 76 key and aftertouch (i like pa4x action, thats fatar tp/8sk)

I considered a used Roland G70, but the surface with the screen isn’t flat enough...


Any suggestions are welcome for a 76 key with great action and aftertouch..and flat surface

I always thought Kurzweil had quality keybeds.

Yes they have, they have fatar keybeds..
But kurzweil hasn’t brought anything with 76 synth key action to the market in a very long time..... yet still, might consider a pc3k7... altough they are hard to find and quite pricey..
Same goes for a yamaha motif xs7 or xf7...

Yamaha piaggio NP v60.
It is one of the better key feel beds from Yamaha.. Soft graded action(synth action with box keys.)
Around $200 used price in USA.
No aftertouch.
I have one but gave it to my granddaughter (about to take piano lessons).

The keyboard is USB midi .

Hi,
Synth action only appears to exist in the 61 notes.
I was having a look at their pianos, Have any of you ever heard a kurzweil piano.
They have a big range of instruments nowadays.

I owned a pc3x

The new kurzweils, espescially the forte have great sounding piano sounds and decent action

The only keyboard l can think would be similar feel to the Genos and 76 keys would be a Tyros 5 76, but that would be rather an expensive lower manual.
l have an NP31 as a lower with my Genos using V Console.

Kind regards,

Russ

Thank you Bachus,
I had a piano module of theirs, close to 30 years ago, in its day it sounded great.

Might give me more piano options, than just the Yamaha, though I do like Yamaha piano sound.

Have you found something for your set up yet. Pity it can’t be 61 notes, possibly a lot more options.

Hi Russ, is it a weighted feel or semi weighted? Hadn’t spotted that one.

I can't understand why Yamaha never make a module version of their top of range boards.
I'm sure a Genos module would sell quite well although it wouldn't be cheap.
That would open up a lot of opportunities for those with pA4x, Ketron SD7 & SD9 & Roland EA-7.

Same as on the piagero np32

The action is graded..
Which i don’t really like on a sythy keyboard..

But the np32 and the numa compact x2 are probably the only options with more then 61 keys..

The other option is older gear...

I am also considering the dexibell S1, its got a fatar TP8, but its only 68 keys..
Just wondering if a 68 key under a 76 key will look kind of stipid?
Gen genos is 1,23 wide the S1 only 1,02..
Might have to build a wooden cabinet for this..

Would this work for you? I don't care for the sound quality via this video.

here is what i put together with my pa600. the lower keyboard is a cheap samson controller midi to the pa600. i can add a set of pedals later if i like.

I like the idea of a controller for the lower keyboard too.


I think I would be in favor of M-Audio controller like this.

[s][/s][quote=Fran Carango]Would this work for you? I don't care for the sound quality via this video.




Hi Fran, that demo wouldn’t exactly encourage me to buy one?

Thanks Fran
A controller might be a better option for myself too, instead of a piano.

I had Yamaha NP-30 as a midi controller for my PSR-3000; NP-30 had a usual midi output. Must say, it didn’t send properly the velocity, I mean, when I played very softly it still sounded louder than if I used keyboard on PSR or when I connected Yamaha MM6 as a midi controller.

Speaking about using two keyboards one above another I personally have a problem with that because if a keyboard is just a little higher or lower my comfortable level I can’t really use it to the fullest – playing something a little bit complicated starts to feel impossible. When I’m sitting at my comfort level (which some people consider too high) I feel more in control of my fingers and a keyboard (the same goes when I played an acoustic piano for 3-4 hours per night).

If the idea is just to be able to play some additional parts (like flute or saxophone) on top of the piano, I guess, even 49 keys controller will do (most of voices don’t really have a wide range).

Hi, me too. I’m used to sitting at a particular level. My husband actually modified one of my old keyboard stands a few years back for my old psr 1500. It sat vertically behind my PA800. I used the PA 800 as controller for psr. The only part visible on psr was the buttons and screen. Sort of got use to pushing them in front of me instead of from top.
The pa3x didn’t work as controller because I had a Paas speaker which made it a bit to deep for button pushing on the psr. Would work with a controller keyboard, but not sure I would want to slide a brand new SX900 into the converted stand.