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#475703 - 09/07/19 05:13 PM Re: Roland back in the high end market [Re: Crossover]
Bachus Senior Member Registered: 03/02/06 Posts: 7143	Originally Posted By Crossover According to another forum, this is the origin of most Fantom sounds: -Bank B contains the first 459 patches from the AX-Edge Keytar -Bank C is the 128 patches from the Integra-7 Synth Legends expansion. -Bank D contains the 1109 SuperNatural Synth Tones from the Integra-7 / FA synths -Bank E contains the 896 patches from in the XV-5080. I can confirm that the tone names in Bank E indeed match the XV-5080 sound list. The AX Edge Keytar was introduced in 2018; obviously it has quite a number of newly sampled acoustic sounds such as trumpet, trombone and saxophones, also some strings. (Note that "supernatural Synth" does not involve the SuperNatural Acoustic sounds - those are definitely not part of the Fantom.) Great find... We need to add to that that Roland promisses to add more banks to that in the future..with more oscilator models as they call it.. there is still room left in the instrument. _________________________ Yamaha Genos, Roland Jupiter 80, Ipad pro. http://keyszone.boards.net
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#475704 - 09/07/19 05:15 PM Re: Roland back in the high end market [Re: Fran Carango]
Bachus Senior Member Registered: 03/02/06 Posts: 7143	Originally Posted By Fran Carango I think I read somewhere that Roland was going to use Roland cloud in their keyboard designs.. Maybe the Fantom has this feature now, using the Roland cloud library as vst's. A lot of the new concepts remind me of my MediaStation days The fantom has full support on board for logic, mainstage and their own cloud instruments... more other daw’s and VST’s will follow in the future.. You can controll these withouth having to use the screen of the mac, leaving your macbook in closed position.. _________________________ Yamaha Genos, Roland Jupiter 80, Ipad pro. http://keyszone.boards.net
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#475705 - 09/07/19 05:18 PM Re: Roland back in the high end market [Re: W Tracy Parnell]
Bachus Senior Member Registered: 03/02/06 Posts: 7143	Originally Posted By W Tracy Parnell Originally Posted By mweuch So is this machine a workstation or an arranger? Workstation. I would even say, a synth workstation.. Currently its mostly aimed at sytnth players.. Sure they added a piano and some dp.. But organs, and other acoustic instrument emulations are severely lacking compared to the Jupiter 90/integra _________________________ Yamaha Genos, Roland Jupiter 80, Ipad pro. http://keyszone.boards.net
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#475800 - 09/09/19 09:46 PM Re: Roland back in the high end market [Re: Bachus]
Robbo Member Registered: 07/31/08 Posts: 570 Loc: Ballarat, Victoria, Australia	Originally Posted By Bachus Originally Posted By Robbo High end yes indeed. Prices that i’m Assuming would make the 6 close to or over $4k Australian like where they are going but I do feel that pricing is placing it out of reach for most home small gig users Simmilar prices to kronos and montage at release, so no surprise there.. Altough many current Roland FA players find this to expensive.. Anyway, the Genos was/is more expensive Originally Posted By Bachus Originally Posted By Robbo High end yes indeed. Prices that i’m Assuming would make the 6 close to or over $4k Australian like where they are going but I do feel that pricing is placing it out of reach for most home small gig users Simmilar prices to kronos and montage at release, so no surprise there.. Altough many current Roland FA players find this to expensive.. Anyway, the Genos was/is more expensive Well I just checked the price with a store in Melbourne and it’s starts at $5600 au dollars for the 6, so I don’t think they want to sell too many at that price which far exceeds Kronos and Montage. Of course the horse trading some would hope will bring it to a reasonable selling level
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#475806 - 09/10/19 04:01 AM Re: Roland back in the high end market [Re: Robbo]
Bachus Senior Member Registered: 03/02/06 Posts: 7143	Originally Posted By Robbo Originally Posted By Bachus Originally Posted By Robbo High end yes indeed. Prices that i’m Assuming would make the 6 close to or over $4k Australian like where they are going but I do feel that pricing is placing it out of reach for most home small gig users Simmilar prices to kronos and montage at release, so no surprise there.. Altough many current Roland FA players find this to expensive.. Anyway, the Genos was/is more expensive Originally Posted By Bachus Originally Posted By Robbo High end yes indeed. Prices that i’m Assuming would make the 6 close to or over $4k Australian like where they are going but I do feel that pricing is placing it out of reach for most home small gig users Simmilar prices to kronos and montage at release, so no surprise there.. Altough many current Roland FA players find this to expensive.. Anyway, the Genos was/is more expensive Well I just checked the price with a store in Melbourne and it’s starts at $5600 au dollars for the 6, so I don’t think they want to sell too many at that price which far exceeds Kronos and Montage. Of course the horse trading some would hope will bring it to a reasonable selling level Exactly the same prices the kronos and the montage cost at release.. Fun thing how people keep being dissapointed at these prices.. This has been the i troduction price for new workstations for over a decade _________________________ Yamaha Genos, Roland Jupiter 80, Ipad pro. http://keyszone.boards.net
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#475812 - 09/10/19 07:04 AM Re: Roland back in the high end market [Re: Bachus]
Fran Carango Senior Member Registered: 05/26/99 Posts: 9673 Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA	I found some interested things about the new Fantom.. They are made in Malaysia, west of Japan (so they didn't gear up in Japan, but pulled out of China). Demos have been showing off the synth section, but the Fantom is loaded with bread and butter sounds too.. There are the xv5080 sounds in preset E. The CMA banks is the main tone bank for bread and butter tones.. And the collection of AX tones are spread in all the preset banks.. Now if someone will demo our sounds that we want, besides the perfect V-piano I also contacted Jos Maas (1manband).. I asked if his program can be used as a pluggin in my DAW.. and be controlled by the Fantom screen.. He said it should.. We also could use his program as a stand alone and should control with the screen of the Fantom. Maybe Dan will let us know if his V-arranger2 will work with the Fantom.. Edited by Fran Carango (09/10/19 07:05 AM) _________________________ www.francarango.com
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#475813 - 09/10/19 07:13 AM Re: Roland back in the high end market [Re: Fran Carango]
Dnj Senior Member Registered: 09/21/00 Posts: 43703	A suedo Roland Fantom arranger?
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#475814 - 09/10/19 07:48 AM Re: Roland back in the high end market [Re: Dnj]
Fran Carango Senior Member Registered: 05/26/99 Posts: 9673 Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA	Originally Posted By Dnj A suedo Roland Fantom arranger? You need the "P" Psuedo _________________________ www.francarango.com
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#475815 - 09/10/19 08:09 AM Re: Roland back in the high end market [Re: Fran Carango]
Dnj Senior Member Registered: 09/21/00 Posts: 43703	Originally Posted By Fran Carango Originally Posted By Dnj A suedo Roland Fantom arranger? You need the "P" Psuedo it's a silent "P" What I don't need is a Fantom
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#475816 - 09/10/19 08:12 AM Re: Roland back in the high end market [Re: Dnj]
Fran Carango Senior Member Registered: 05/26/99 Posts: 9673 Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA	I notice your "thinking" sphere again _________________________ www.francarango.com
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