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#472102 - 06/30/19 01:34 PM Re: Hammond SK1 & SD90...OR KETRON SD9 ? [Re: cgiles]
Dnj Offline
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What about the Sk1.. Midi'd to the S670?
And use the Yamaha styles?
Thoughts?


Edited by Dnj (06/30/19 01:41 PM)

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#472103 - 06/30/19 01:51 PM Re: Hammond SK1 & SD90...OR KETRON SD9 ? [Re: Dnj]
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No need for midi, use the SK1 to play solos, and comp chords, and reach your left hand up to trigger the Yammy
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#472104 - 06/30/19 01:59 PM Re: Hammond SK1 & SD90...OR KETRON SD9 ? [Re: Dnj]
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Donny,
I'll bet my sox that this is clearly a guilty pleasure deal driven from boredom, so ... sit back and think carefully. You are not likely to love using a 2 kb setup at home. If you miss the organ drawbars, maybe look for a module that you can sit on your desk, and fiddle with. Simple midi cable from the 670, and a volume pedal brings in the color.
https://www.guitarcenter.com/Ferrofish/B4000-Organ-Module-With-Drawbars.gc
not such a big investment, either
BTW - this is a solid bet, on my end - I don't wear SOX! lol
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#472105 - 06/30/19 02:02 PM Re: Hammond SK1 & SD90...OR KETRON SD9 ? [Re: Dnj]
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I know a B3 player would use an expression pedal, but I have always used a Yamaha volume pedal on everything. No, it is not expressive like a B3 pedal with a quick burst, but then, I am not a jazz player either.
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#472106 - 06/30/19 02:04 PM Re: Hammond SK1 & SD90...OR KETRON SD9 ? [Re: Dnj]
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Please explain the actual difference I'd hear between volume and expression? I have never heard a difference in an outboard pedal, using a midi instrument.
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#472109 - 06/30/19 02:33 PM Re: Hammond SK1 & SD90...OR KETRON SD9 ? [Re: Dnj]
cgiles Offline
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Volume (midi code 7) and Expression (midi code 11) COULD be used interchangeably since they do the same thing, however, volume is usually a 'fixed' thing while expression is usually used for crescendos and decrescendos. As I'm sure you've noticed, they are labeled separately in music stores and also are usually different in appearance with expression pedals usually larger and with longer physical throws. This would make it more nuanced (and dynamic) through the range.

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#472110 - 06/30/19 02:47 PM Re: Hammond SK1 & SD90...OR KETRON SD9 ? [Re: cgiles]
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Donny, you are using the wrong criteria to judge what you shoould do. You are really not for the best sound, or ease-of-use. You are just looking for something new to play with.

With that in mind buy whatever, never regret it, and above all
enjoy, enjoy, enjoy. And be thankful that you have the means to do what is making you HAPPY.

Life is so good, John C.

PS, I am approaching 90, about two years to go --- And I am ready to get a new model something when it comes out. Can’t wait.
(HAPPY -- NICE)

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#472112 - 06/30/19 04:20 PM Re: Hammond SK1 & SD90...OR KETRON SD9 ? [Re: bruno123]
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Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Originally Posted By bruno123

I am approaching 90, about two years to go --- And I am ready to get a new model something when it comes out. Can’t wait.
(HAPPY -- NICE)


You are a pretty cool guy, John....I like your posts...lots of good positive energy...and obviously hard earned wisdom.

Yamaha makes a mini keyboard called the Reface YC-37...check out some of the online demos...I played one shortly (an hour) in the store...very convincing B-3/Leslie emulation (really nice overdrive)...way, way better than the drawbar organ emulations in the Tyros/PSR/CVP/Genos...can easily be midi'd to the latter (check your manual first).
I'm very surprised the Reface YC's innards weren't included in the Genos...different divisions I guess. Too bad, as the Genos' drawbar organs don't sound much better (if at all) than my Tyros4's (it still has that too clean "Electone" quality...not ballsy like a Hammond...or the little Reface yc-37). wink

It's something Donny could look into...not too much loot, either.

Best wishes,

Ian
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#472114 - 06/30/19 04:36 PM Re: Hammond SK1 & SD90...OR KETRON SD9 ? [Re: bruno123]
Stephenm52 Offline
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Registered: 04/13/05
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Loc: USA
Originally Posted By bruno123
Donny, you are using the wrong criteria to judge what you shoould do. You are really not for the best sound, or ease-of-use. You are just looking for something new to play with.

With that in mind buy whatever, never regret it, and above all
enjoy, enjoy, enjoy. And be thankful that you have the means to do what is making you HAPPY.

Life is so good, John C.

PS, I am approaching 90, about two years to go --- And I am ready to get a new model something when it comes out. Can’t wait.
(HAPPY -- NICE)


John, I second your comments to Donny and the comment Ian made about your posts, you have a lot of wisdom, no doubt about it. I know where a lot of that wisdom of it comes from too. smile smile

P.S. Ian good to see you post! cool

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#472116 - 06/30/19 05:25 PM Re: Hammond SK1 & SD90...OR KETRON SD9 ? [Re: ianmcnll]
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Originally Posted By ianmcnll
Originally Posted By bruno123

I am approaching 90, about two years to go --- And I am ready to get a new model something when it comes out. Can’t wait.
(HAPPY -- NICE)


You are a pretty cool guy, John....I like your posts...lots of good positive energy...and obviously hard earned wisdom.

Yamaha makes a mini keyboard called the Reface YC-37...check out some of the online demos...I played one shortly (an hour) in the store...very convincing B-3/Leslie emulation (really nice overdrive)...way, way better than the drawbar organ emulations in the Tyros/PSR/CVP/Genos...can easily be midi'd to the latter (check your manual first).
I'm very surprised the Reface YC's innards weren't included in the Genos...different divisions I guess. Too bad, as the Genos' drawbar organs don't sound much better (if at all) than my Tyros4's (it still has that too clean "Electone" quality...not ballsy like a Hammond...or the little Reface yc-37). wink

It's something Donny could look into...not too much loot, either.

Best wishes,

Ian




Check it out with a more elaborate setup.

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