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#467488 - 03/14/19 08:40 AM Creating your own style & rhythms on S670
Dnj Offline
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The step by step process of creating your own
custom rhythms & style to use with you music beginning to end ...
it's ALL in there you just have to have the playing skills & know how! headphone




Edited by Dnj (03/14/19 11:38 AM)

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#467494 - 03/14/19 02:36 PM Re: Creating your own style & rhythms on S670 [Re: Dnj]
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Forgive me, Donny:

My hand-eye coordination is not what it used to be... LOL... and, to make matters worse, I barely speak Yankee English... even though I'm Southern at heart!

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#467497 - 03/14/19 03:54 PM Re: Creating your own style & rhythms on S670 [Re: Riceroni9]
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Originally Posted By Riceroni9
Forgive me, Donny:

My hand-eye coordination is not what it used to be... LOL... and, to make matters worse, I barely speak Yankee English... even though I'm Southern at heart!


Dave you don't have to speak the language to understand the track by track procedure to create new styles & parts any way you desire by watching this demo..but if you need more watch this English version




This is something hardly anyone ever does even though all the tools are within your keyboard. But you have to dig in and create. cool2


Edited by Dnj (03/14/19 04:04 PM)

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#467503 - 03/15/19 04:14 AM Re: Creating your own style & rhythms on S670 [Re: Dnj]
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Dnj. English...Tutorial appreciated.

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#467504 - 03/15/19 05:07 AM Re: Creating your own style & rhythms on S670 [Re: Graham UK]
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I find the best way to get a style that I like is to edit an existing style close to my liking. Especially the drum part.

John C.

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#467509 - 03/15/19 07:20 AM Re: Creating your own style & rhythms on S670 [Re: bruno123]
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Originally Posted By bruno123
I find the best way to get a style that I like is to edit an existing style close to my liking. Especially the drum part.

John C.


John that's fine if you want to just make a few tweaks and changes ....but to really make the style your own you have to dig in
and RE-Record some tracks to you liking, eg: bass line, drums, percussion, brass, etc, to give it that custom treatment and "originality" that makes the song stand out and come alive.
It's not that difficult and you get a real sense of accomplishment.
After all you paying for these features within why not utilize them?


Edited by Dnj (03/15/19 07:22 AM)

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#467512 - 03/15/19 09:25 AM Re: Creating your own style & rhythms on S670 [Re: Dnj]
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Thanks, Donny:

I can fly this 747 much easier now. A flight instructor sitting in the right seat is always a good thing. Fasten your seat belt!

Regards, ----Dave

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#467513 - 03/15/19 09:35 AM Re: Creating your own style & rhythms on S670 [Re: Dnj]
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Many years ago, it was necessary to create styles, and I did a lot of it. These days there are so many on-board and third party styles to use, I don't find a need to do it.
Not saying it's not a great thing to do.
Please post one of the styles you've made from scratch DNJ. Maybe I'll change my mind!
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#467515 - 03/15/19 10:03 AM Re: Creating your own style & rhythms on S670 [Re: Riceroni9]
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Originally Posted By Riceroni9
Thanks, Donny:

I can fly this 747 much easier now. A flight instructor sitting in the right seat is always a good thing. Fasten your seat belt!

Regards, ----Dave


Dave I would think as a song writer you would want every song you write to be unique from all the rest that's where customizing songs makes sense. wink


Edited by Dnj (03/15/19 10:06 AM)

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#467516 - 03/15/19 10:45 AM Re: Creating your own style & rhythms on S670 [Re: Dnj]
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Donny: That's a great observation. You are 100% correct. Time gets in the way when the learning process via the manual (I call it "cook-booking") is both confusing and frustrating. The video you shared is much like attending a live demonstration about the process. Now that my catalog exceeds 1000 Songs, I have time to experiment and learn how to create my own unique styles... and nearly as important, my own Multi-Pad combinations.

As a side note, nearly every style I have used was modified in various ways. Instrument selection, tempo, individual volume for each "track" and other important factors.

The "chink in my armor" is my crappy vocals. It gets worse as we age (unless you happen to be Willie Nelson) and I can't afford one of those "magic boxes" to enhance the way I sound. LOL!

John C.'s comment about modifying existing styles is also merit worthy. Why re-invent the wheel if something "close" to what is needed exists and can be "tailored" to the needs of the song.

Thanks again for taking time to post that video. ----Dave

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#467518 - 03/15/19 11:56 AM Re: Creating your own style & rhythms on S670 [Re: Riceroni9]
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Like Don, I made my own styles years ago. I would take a style and create the bass line, the drum part, all four variations, four fills, two introductions and two endings. I was putting a lot of time and effort in. I came to the realization that the pros who were creating were far more talented than myself. I was not a piano player, or a drummer.

Now that’s one view. Here’s another view: It was a heck of-a-lot of fun making the styles.

What I do now:
1-Change the instrument, and change their volume, octave, and the EQ if needed.
1-One dedicated mute control button to mute 1 to 5 parts of the style, on-the-fly, while adding pads ( I do create some of my own pads) – now the style is no longer what it was. Sometimes I used the full style and the four pads for a strong ending. I try to visualize a band with 12 musicians. It is rare to hear them playing all at once. If it is a three-piece R&R band, the only thing I change is the rhythm.

What I am saying is there are so many ways to play with your keyboard, find which one you enjoy the most. If I could create fantastic styles, but hated doing them, they would never get done.

Just saying, no more, John C.

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#467529 - 03/15/19 06:45 PM Re: Creating your own style & rhythms on S670 [Re: Dnj]
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I like John's method-find something close to what you want and tweak it. I'll be the first to admit that I'm too lazy to do it from scratch.
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#467530 - 03/15/19 07:46 PM Re: Creating your own style & rhythms on S670 [Re: Dnj]
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Pretty much why the younger generation does not use arrangers..... They want to make beats and create and record their own music using other means.... Multitracking, vst, pads, etc... This way it's original.


Edited by Dnj (03/15/19 08:03 PM)

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#467531 - 03/15/19 10:37 PM Re: Creating your own style & rhythms on S670 [Re: Dnj]
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The younger generation in the U.S. doesn't know what an arranger is. Nobody markets them correctly. The younger generation in other parts of the world do use arrangers. Look at youtube.
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#467536 - 03/16/19 06:34 AM Re: Creating your own style & rhythms on S670 [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By DonM
The younger generation in the U.S. doesn't know what an arranger is. Nobody markets them correctly. The younger generation in other parts of the world do use arrangers. Look at youtube.


Very true. One can see some evidence that Yamaha has recognized the need for different marketing by looking at their video series that was released when the Genos came out. Beth Nielsen Chapman, who is a Nashville songwriter, appeared in one extolling the virtues of using Genos for that purpose. Whether or not it will work-I don't know.
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#467537 - 03/16/19 06:38 AM Re: Creating your own style & rhythms on S670 [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By DonM
The younger generation in the U.S. doesn't know what an arranger is. Nobody markets them correctly. The younger generation in other parts of the world do use arrangers. Look at youtube.


I can see that,... it is a shame here in the USA arrangers are pretty much fading into obscurity becoming dinosaurs of a bygone era the same way the old wooden arranger style organs did. frown


Edited by Dnj (03/16/19 08:40 AM)

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#467539 - 03/16/19 08:13 AM Re: Creating your own style & rhythms on S670 [Re: Dnj]
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If I had a crystal ball capable of peering into the future... I'm thinking it would show a bright future for Arrangers... after the war was over and the media had been penalized for attempting to "Dumb us down." Children (including teens) would be actually taught instead of being "baby-sat" and their bright minds would see the opportunity Arrangers present... because Music would once again be part of the curriculum.

Yeah, I know, I've turned into an optimist as "old age" begins to take it's toll. LOL!

It ain't over 'til it's over, Guys!

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