Haven't hear much about it as you progress with genos...
curious minds want to know?

I am spending more time enjoying the Genos and the modx8 and less time on the forums.

For out of the box playing, nothing beats Yamaha...
For brand specific user community, nothing beats Yamaha...
For ease of use, nothing beats Yamaha...
For musicaly creativity, nothing beats Yamaha...

There is onlyonewish left, the same old same wish...
Can i have these both instruments in a single package?


I know, that sounds way over the top..
And probably arrogant..
But i am loving it..

Where it comes to arranger features for home users, Genos can’t be beat..
Where it comes to hardware synths with daw integration, modx and montage can’t be beat..

Instead of 60 to 120 minutes a day, i now spend over 3 hours daily behind the keys..

Now if i had to choose one of these, i seriously don’t know which one...

I have enjoyed korg pa4x and kronos for over 2 years..
Now i am riding the Yamaha train and loving it even more...
But in the end, you can’t go wrong with any of todays professional keyboards...

Glad to hear your really enjoying Yamaha...good luck!

This probably means no SD90 ... for now to enhance your styles/arranger.

I can add that i feel the same as Bachus as an owner of Genos and pax4 .
this is the first time ever that i spend a lot of time playing key at home for almost a year ,since i bought the Genos.

Just waiting for my MODX6 to come
This will be my first Yamaha synth !
Maybe I can offer the vArranger for the MODX users
Will see what can be done with it...

I have so much keyboards at home that I thought I can't buy one more

However, it seems to be a mini montage that includes all the sounds from motifs etc series... in a very lightweight and compact package.
It also includes an audio card, so with vArranger, I will have an arranger + VST instruments + modx sounds, all goiging out the same stereo audio out, with just one USB cable to plug

Will let you know.....

Since on Modx you can only assign 8 voices to the keyboards..
The other 8 voices are perfect for assigning to v-arranger..
(Altough yamaha stpped away from calling them voices)

Altough compared to montage, only the voice 9,10,11 and 12 have dsp.. the voices 13 to 16 dont..

Modx makes an extremely light packages combined with an ipad or a surface pro...
And on my modx 8 there is enough room to place a korg nanopad for direct controlling of varranger...

Sadly not..
I was actually in the shop to order one..
But decided not to, for the simple reason that there seems to be now way to edit the voices in a style and save them... this is a major part of my workflow.. sound edditing tweaking and creation is one of the things i like to do

I feel the same about the KORG PA4x, nothing beats the PA4x especially with the new update that is coming.

Yes, I wouldn't trade my 4X even for a Genos, even though I have carefully considered getting one a time or two. I came to my senses. That's why there are different makes of arrangers.

I have too, but I find too much to like with Korg and Ketron,

I was gonna send a Genos to Don, but the Two Fer deal never materialized.

Gary

I don't see the CC84 in the montage/modx spec.
I hope it works, as it is very important for me

Enlighten me, why is it so important for you, its normally used for potamento, but i guess you use it for something else....

You want to send or receive it on the modx?


Never mind, just found out..


I will check my modx see if i can figure it out for you..

Thank you. Not easy to test without vArranger !

Between Bachus and Dan, the Yamaha MODX88 sounds very appealing to me. It looks huge, but only 30 LBS. I can live with that. The MODX combined with vArranger... as Dan mentioned sounds good to me though I thought I would never buy another big workstation type of a keyboard. I am waiting for a new model that will replace Casio's PX5s or the PX560 but now I am considering the MODX88 also.

To my ears, my Genos has been the best sounding of the 6 or so arrangers I have owned.

It is a joy to play, gigging or at home for just pure enjoyment.

Actually, just watching Franks video on Genos shows what an amazing instrument the Genos is.

The MODX 8 is on par with the Kronos where it comes to sound quallity. Its incredible light (lighter then my Genos) The keybed is on par with the CAsio's same level. Touch is on the light side tough.

For using with VArranger, it has 2 very nice advantages. the ease of use is incredibly easy. And there is enough room for both a Korg nano kontrol and a korg nanopad, witouth obstructing anything. Next patch will have the improved DAW controll section of the Montage.

IF Dan can make it fully integrate with Varranger (which no doubt will happen as he did do this for the Motif XF series and they should be backward compatible) then the combo VArranger/MODX becomes even stronger.

If the Varranger would have multipads, it would be on par feature wise with the top Totl arrangers.

Sitting on the sidelines... as I did for my brief "career" in Football... I'm dreaming of "affordability." Love my 970 and believe the "upgrade" learning time from 970 to Genos would be minimal. At today's price... I could never justify the cost unless I had the talent of so many of this site's participants.

Thank goodness, we can still dream... and enjoy our personal preferences.

I will have to ask if Dan is going to support the MODX and multipads.

Just received the MODX6
Wow amazing machine

It is very cool to have an USB/AUDIO interface integrated, so you can play and mix the MODX sounds and VST instruments, almost plug and play

Still a lot to discover.........

Some very nice Genos Performances

https://youtu.be/UwmHqK9yOlk

https://youtu.be/rba63ryl0M4

https://youtu.be/72LIUOGfgTA

https://youtu.be/rERPZ2oiizE

https://youtu.be/SWVEjiq-AcA

If you call the MODX amazing, it gotta be good. I hope vArranger will fully support the MODX.

Actually, it works almost plug and play with vArranger
So bad it does not understand for now the CC84
Some sounds are a bit slow to change, few ms, probably the DSP are changing internally
For now, only styles that use a GM like drum kit sounds good
But for people who does not want to buy an arranger kb, it is a really great addition, to have a style player on the MODX. Better than the internal drum player

Actually the drums on the MODX are quite good, comparable to the Genos..


Altough nothing like the Kronos, or some of the high end Drum VST's.


Offcourse the MODX is not arranger..
But when you add drums and arps for Bass, Guitar1, guitar2 on the left hand, you can have a kind of mini arranger. And then there is 8 scenes for pattern changes and voice changes.


But Varranger and MODX(or any non arranger keyboard) should work well together. Espescially when using the Varranger synth for the sounds.

Offcourse the MODX is not arranger..
But when you add drums and arps for Bass, Guitar1, guitar2 on the left hand, you can have a kind of mini arranger. And then there is 8 scenes for pattern changes and voice changes.


Bachus, I thought the MODX can play 8 arps at a time, not just 4 like you mentioned. Maybe I misunderstood what you said a while back?

It definately can...

However, you can only assign 8 of the 16 voices to the keybed, so having 4 voices trough arps, leaves me with 4 voices for the right hand, keep in mind that modx sounds are different and some like the main piano have up to 4voices(thats 32 elements) but at best you could have 7 arps on the left, and 1 righthand voice..

But then in my book, simple 4 part styles sound really cool and live, in the end, what does a live band have more then a drummer, a bass, and 2 guitars? Maybe a keyboardist, but then thats the role i fill...

That's great, Bachus! Thanks for clarifying that!

The MODX sounds very good with vArranger
Possible better than yamaha arrangers on some styles

Can we hear some examples using the vArranger & Modx?

Tell me a style you like from any brand

Yamaha
Merengue
Country Two Step
Med Big Band
6/8 Slow Rock

I have discovered that the MODX includes some of the MegaVoices, so I will first redirect the MegaVoices of the styles to the MV of the MODX (they are in a completely different place)

While you are waiting, here are the T2 Version Styles played without conversion or editing on OAS with the OAA from 2007

https://app.box.com/s/ndwxonj2oh6la7td9a7t4xcnvspsgda7

Who knows, someone with a Wersi OAX or Bohm Sempra instrument may see this post and upload recordings of the T2 styles recorded on those instruments, as both support those styles as standard. (Not that an organ player would ever use styles like that as they are incompatible with organ style playing)

Bill

Bachus, I'd like to use this opportunity to ask you something, actually about MODX. In case with Genos, I presume, if you layer piano with strings and play it with a sustain pedal pressed, both voices will decay. In case with MODX I expect that in this situation only the piano voice will decay and the strings will continue to sound as long as the pedal is pressed. I've been browsing through the MODX's manual but I'm still not sure that there's a way to change it. Can you add something to my assumptions or correct them?

Yes to solve this, i switch the damper pedal off for the strings, and then add more release time.. this way i get the layers to work most natural with damper pedal pressed.

Bachus this is lucky that it is adjustable. Thank you for the information.