I forgot to mention Yammies sound much more compressed vs others.

I think I know what you're saying. I have a Korg Kronos which sounds much better than the Audya for voice sounds (there is a noticeable difference).

The Kronos is similar to the Yamaha Montage, and they may have used some of the same technology in the Genos.

For arranger/live band sounds the Ketron is hard to beat. Just wish they would improve in some of the other areas.

Most of Genos technollogy is equall as the Montage (and the kronos)
But lots of highlights are only available on the Genos..
Things like 32 parts multitimbrallity
Sa2 voices, the drawbar organ world engine, ensemble voices..
Those highlights are only available in Genos and no other hardware instrument..

Yamaha has several top level keyproducts... CP88, Clavinova, Genos, Montage, Avantgrand, ELectone .... all based on the same hardware and technollogy, yet Yamaha spreads its highlights and features thin over these products ..

Diving deeper into the Genos this weekend..
For every answer i get, 2 new questions arise..

Seems the Genos OS suffers from 30 year of backward compatibillity just as much as the tyros5
At first i was hoping the new Genos interface would have been reason for a lot of rewriting..
Seems however, the Genos is just another shell over the Tyros5..

Now don’t get me wrong, i love every minute with the Genos..
But to get things done quickly, one still requires a lot of knowledge about why certain things are as they are...
Which can be confusing to someone not having 20 years of yamaha arranger experience while deep diving..

As said, i am getting there, but just have a look over at psr tutorial and you will see my questions floating up everywhere..

For now my back ishurting from hanging over the Genos for 5 hours in a stretch..
Strangely the laying position of the screen automatically makes my head move forward when using it..
I need to not do that, its killing my back..

In your case, I wonder if the old saying " No pain no gain" applies.

[quote=Bachus]
Seems the Genos OS suffers from 30 year of backward compatibility just as much as the tyros5
the Genos is just "another shell" over the Tyros5..

This is the main reason I never indulged in Genos

the laying position of the screen automatically makes my head move forward when using it..

another reason of bewilderment to many players from T5 why Yamaha didn't design a genos TILT UP Display?

I hope it all works out for you.....
best scenario you keep it....
worst scenario you sell it quick & say I tried one..

good luck

Bachus ... To help with the similar problem with my Pa900, I took a 1" x 3" board, covered it with speaker carpeting, and used velcro to attach it to the bottom of the KB ... alleviates some of the bending over ...

Some people have used something like this under the KB ...
https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/H-3...mp;gclsrc=aw.ds

good luck

???

I sure never noticed that compared to the PA4X I had. My Genos definitely is more open and full.

Regarding Genos 9 in screen....nicest screen interface I've had on a keyboard.

Maybe an advantage to a tilt up? But I can't say I've missed a tilt up screen.

I am very happy with the Genos..
When the Genos moves into the upper position when i add a 2nd lower keyboard it will be at a slight angle, and there will be no more backpains..

And those same problems with the interface different with things done in an awkward way from my way of thinking, hampered the pa4x to.. its just a matter of getting used to

I am really enjoying my discovery trough the keyboard, just wish i had more time..



Yammaha samples are not compressed



I agree with you..
I would say apple style interface, which is a huge compliment..
Many things are where you expect it to be..

Much much better then the pa4x, thats the reason pa4x will do an upgrade..



I am pretty sure the Genos is going to stay with me atleast as long as the pa4x, but probably longer. The YAmaha community on PSR tutorial is a wonderfull place for getting things answered. And also for sharing things. Almost as great as our community here.

And while no bad over the Korgforums community, they are just a little more professional, and a little less sharing.