SYNTH ZONE
Visit The Bar For Casual Discussion
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4 >
Topic Options
#460240 - 10/24/18 06:40 PM New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth....
Ketron_AJ Offline
Moderator

Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 3583
Loc: Middletown, DE
As promised, we will be releasing videos that better explains some of the unique features the KETRON products currently have.

More details will be available on the webinars soon to be organized in collaboration with IMMUSIC.

Stay tuned to this thread and enjoy video #1:- LAUNCHPAD EXPLAINED

https://youtu.be/gx5H2T0-g7o


Thanks,
_________________________
[KETRON - USA]
Design Engineer & Product Specialist.
www.KetronAmerica.com

Top
#460241 - 10/24/18 06:54 PM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: Ketron_AJ]
bruno123 Online   content
Senior Member

Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4912
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
Question: How close is this to adding pads?
The big problem with pads is their poor selection.

John C.

Top
#460243 - 10/24/18 08:14 PM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: bruno123]
Ketron_AJ Offline
Moderator

Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 3583
Loc: Middletown, DE
Originally Posted By bruno123
Question: How close is this to adding pads?
The big problem with pads is their poor selection.

John C.


These are much more than pads. Yes, we do have 'virtual' pads on the screen which you can touch to trigger (turn on/off, edit ... etc) but that is all they share in common. The pad control features hidden behind each pad is where the "magic" happens. You can also program a pad to control other pads ... as will be shown in videos forthcoming.....

Hope this answers your question.

Thanks,
_________________________
[KETRON - USA]
Design Engineer & Product Specialist.
www.KetronAmerica.com

Top
#460246 - 10/24/18 09:38 PM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: bruno123]
Bachus Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 7143
Originally Posted By bruno123
Question: How close is this to adding pads?
The big problem with pads is their poor selection.

John C.


What Bruno means, is this feature needs to have some drum pads..

To make it really perfect..
16 drum pads
and 16 tracks
and 16 scenes
and you can use the drum pads to either select tracks
or to select scenes
Or all those other great things drum pads can be used for.


But all in all, i hope this video helps to convince people of the usefullness of the launchpad. For me this is a game changer in the keyboard world.

I never realised you can switch style variations in the launchpad witouth switching scenes.
_________________________
Yamaha Genos, Roland Jupiter 80, Ipad pro.

http://keyszone.boards.net

Top
#460254 - 10/25/18 05:47 AM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: Ketron_AJ]
Dnj Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Originally Posted By Ketron_AJ
As promised, we will be releasing videos that better explains some of the unique features the KETRON products currently have.

More details will be available on the webinars soon to be organized in collaboration with IMMUSIC.

Stay tuned to this thread and enjoy video #1:- LAUNCHPAD EXPLAINED

https://youtu.be/gx5H2T0-g7o


Thanks,



clap headphone keys

Great demo MORE MORE MORE!!


This is what makes people understand a unit, this is what makes people learn, this is how you mix it up!
and this is what makes people BUY a product,
keep up the good work on all aspects and Ketron features...I hope besides SZ this great Ketron Ajamsonic public relations wave is being shown all over the world on social media and beyond to make players aware of how amazing an arranger keyboard can be.
...watching is learning. cool2


Edited by Dnj (10/25/18 06:04 AM)

Top
#460261 - 10/25/18 10:28 AM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: Bachus]
Ketron_AJ Offline
Moderator

Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 3583
Loc: Middletown, DE
Originally Posted By Bachus
Originally Posted By bruno123
Question: How close is this to adding pads?
The big problem with pads is their poor selection.

John C.


What Bruno means, is this feature needs to have some drum pads..

To make it really perfect..
16 drum pads
and 16 tracks
and 16 scenes
and you can use the drum pads to either select tracks
or to select scenes
Or all those other great things drum pads can be used for.


But all in all, i hope this video helps to convince people of the usefullness of the launchpad. For me this is a game changer in the keyboard world.

I never realised you can switch style variations in the launchpad witouth switching scenes.


Maybe in a future product .... maybe.....
But what are the advantages of physical pads over those we currently have on the touch screen ....besides being able to use with a "hammer"?
_________________________
[KETRON - USA]
Design Engineer & Product Specialist.
www.KetronAmerica.com

Top
#460262 - 10/25/18 10:33 AM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: Ketron_AJ]
zionip Offline
Member

Registered: 11/25/17
Posts: 65
Loc: TX
Hi AJ,

Does Ketron SD9 / SD90 support external USB MIDI control surface like the Korg NanoPad2 to configure the 16 pads as triggers?

Thanks,
Paul
_________________________
Yamaha Genos, Ketron SD90, Korg Kronos 2 88, Korg PA1000, Casio Privia PX560

Top
#460264 - 10/25/18 10:44 AM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: zionip]
Bachus Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 7143
Originally Posted By zionip
Hi AJ,

Does Ketron SD9 / SD90 support external USB MIDI control surface like the Korg NanoPad2 to configure the 16 pads as triggers?

Thanks,
Paul


This could be great..
The nano pad works very nice in combination with my kronos
Also with my pa4x, but that makes less sense to me...

But with the launchpad... this would be an awesome thing..
_________________________
Yamaha Genos, Roland Jupiter 80, Ipad pro.

http://keyszone.boards.net

Top
#460269 - 10/25/18 11:42 AM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: Ketron_AJ]
SAM CA Offline
Member

Registered: 06/24/18
Posts: 151
Loc: Los Angeles
The nanoPad2 is hardly useful with the Pa4x. It's a wonderful little controller that I use a lot for everything else but not so much with the Pa4x.

Here's why. You can only assign a single PC message to one pad. An example would be functions such as Intro, Var1, Ending 2....etc. Not exactly useful, because you already have dedicated buttons directly on the panel for these Style Elements. You can't use it to select sounds and styles, because with the nanoPad2 you can't assign a string of PC/LSB/MSB to the same pad...meaning you would have to press at least 3 different pads in succession in order to get something selected!

The Genius award goes to whomever thought that was a good idea!


Edited by SAM CA (10/25/18 11:45 AM)

Top
#460281 - 10/25/18 09:57 PM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: SAM CA]
Bachus Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 7143
Originally Posted By SAM CA
The nanoPad2 is hardly useful with the Pa4x. It's a wonderful little controller that I use a lot for everything else but not so much with the Pa4x.

Here's why. You can only assign a single PC message to one pad. An example would be functions such as Intro, Var1, Ending 2....etc. Not exactly useful, because you already have dedicated buttons directly on the panel for these Style Elements. You can't use it to select sounds and styles, because with the nanoPad2 you can't assign a string of PC/LSB/MSB to the same pad...meaning you would have to press at least 3 different pads in succession in order to get something selected!

The Genius award goes to whomever thought that was a good idea!


I made a setup on the kronos that allows the nanopad to send those variations/intro/ending to the PA4x... so i dont have to reach all the way up to the pa4x.

I think both Kronos as well as Montage should have had 16 pads build in..
_________________________
Yamaha Genos, Roland Jupiter 80, Ipad pro.

http://keyszone.boards.net

Top
#460286 - 10/26/18 04:14 AM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: Bachus]
guitpic1 Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 04/16/14
Posts: 1950
Loc: Missouri
Very informative video.

👍👍
_________________________
It’s all about the learning

Top
#460325 - 10/26/18 07:51 PM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: Ketron_AJ]
Ketron_AJ Offline
Moderator

Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 3583
Loc: Middletown, DE
We took the lead to create the SD90/60 Brochure .... (our version anyway) ... by musicians for musicans:-

http://www.ajamsonic.com/SD90%20Brochure%20with%20Contact%20info.pdf

Thanks
_________________________
[KETRON - USA]
Design Engineer & Product Specialist.
www.KetronAmerica.com

Top
#460327 - 10/26/18 10:05 PM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: Ketron_AJ]
Bachus Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 7143
Originally Posted By Ketron_AJ
We took the lead to create the SD90/60 Brochure .... (our version anyway) ... by musicians for musicans:-

http://www.ajamsonic.com/SD90%20Brochure%20with%20Contact%20info.pdf

Thanks


Since you put on the sample editor in the features of the self created brochure, i guess thats a working feature now?
_________________________
Yamaha Genos, Roland Jupiter 80, Ipad pro.

http://keyszone.boards.net

Top
#461005 - 11/05/18 10:37 PM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: Ketron_AJ]
Ketron_AJ Offline
Moderator

Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 3583
Loc: Middletown, DE
Ketron LaunchPad Continued Explanation and Use - Video 2:-

https://youtu.be/ANUH74e4iKM

More to follow!
_________________________
[KETRON - USA]
Design Engineer & Product Specialist.
www.KetronAmerica.com

Top
#461007 - 11/05/18 11:27 PM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: Ketron_AJ]
Bachus Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 7143
Originally Posted By Ketron_AJ
Ketron LaunchPad Continued Explanation and Use - Video 2:-

https://youtu.be/ANUH74e4iKM

More to follow!


LOVE HOW THE CHORD SEQUENCER AND SONG MODE ADD A LOT OF DEPTH TO THIS..
_________________________
Yamaha Genos, Roland Jupiter 80, Ipad pro.

http://keyszone.boards.net

Top
#461020 - 11/06/18 05:34 AM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: Bachus]
Dnj Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
So Bachus are you gonna switch to a Ketron product next you seem very interested..?






Edited by Dnj (11/06/18 06:30 AM)

Top
#461047 - 11/06/18 10:51 AM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: Dnj]
Bachus Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 7143
Originally Posted By Dnj
So Bachus are you gonna switch to a Ketron product next you seem very interested..?






What did you miss?
I been saying i will own a sd90 in Januar for quite some time now..

Unless Winter Namm might surprise me..

I am cutting back to a single keyboard setup..
Well actually 2 setups,...

Kronos + sd90 +macbook + integra7 +gemini +motif xs + Novation peak

And MODX6 + ipad Pro(for when traveling)




But then this topic is not about me, but about the wonderfull launchpad feature, that will change the future of arrangers..


Edited by Bachus (11/06/18 10:56 AM)
_________________________
Yamaha Genos, Roland Jupiter 80, Ipad pro.

http://keyszone.boards.net

Top
#461053 - 11/06/18 11:52 AM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: Ketron_AJ]
Dnj Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Good luck what ever you choose..

Top
#461066 - 11/06/18 09:58 PM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: Ketron_AJ]
Bachus Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 7143
it looks like i am the only one on this forum realy interested in this feature?
_________________________
Yamaha Genos, Roland Jupiter 80, Ipad pro.

http://keyszone.boards.net

Top
#461067 - 11/06/18 10:43 PM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: Bachus]
zionip Offline
Member

Registered: 11/25/17
Posts: 65
Loc: TX
Originally Posted By Bachus
it looks like i am the only one on this forum realy interested in this feature?


Hi Bachus,

The Lauchpad is one of the main reasons I bought a Ketron SD90 module - just got too busy at work, and too much fun with V-Console for Genos.

Paul
_________________________
Yamaha Genos, Ketron SD90, Korg Kronos 2 88, Korg PA1000, Casio Privia PX560

Top
#461070 - 11/07/18 05:59 AM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: zionip]
Bachus Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 7143
Originally Posted By zionip
Originally Posted By Bachus
it looks like i am the only one on this forum realy interested in this feature?


Hi Bachus,

The Lauchpad is one of the main reasons I bought a Ketron SD90 module - just got too busy at work, and too much fun with V-Console for Genos.

Paul


Busy at work, thats something i recognise..
But then something has to pay the bills and gear..

When you get into the SD90, i would love to hear more...
_________________________
Yamaha Genos, Roland Jupiter 80, Ipad pro.

http://keyszone.boards.net

Top
#461218 - 11/09/18 03:29 PM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: Ketron_AJ]
Ketron_AJ Offline
Moderator

Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 3583
Loc: Middletown, DE
LaunchPad Video (COMPLETE TUTORIAL):- https://youtu.be/uyvposAvy6A

Grab some coffee and enjoy this rather detail tutorial of the LaunchPad feature!

Thanks,

_________________________
[KETRON - USA]
Design Engineer & Product Specialist.
www.KetronAmerica.com

Top
#461220 - 11/09/18 04:04 PM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: Ketron_AJ]
Dnj Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Originally Posted By Ketron_AJ
LaunchPad Video (COMPLETE TUTORIAL):- https://youtu.be/uyvposAvy6A

Grab some coffee and enjoy this rather detail tutorial of the LaunchPad feature!

Thanks,



clap


Edited by Dnj (11/09/18 04:04 PM)

Top
#461221 - 11/09/18 04:05 PM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: Dnj]
Ketron_AJ Offline
Moderator

Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 3583
Loc: Middletown, DE
Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By Ketron_AJ
LaunchPad Video (COMPLETE TUTORIAL):- https://youtu.be/uyvposAvy6A

Grab some coffee and enjoy this rather detail tutorial of the LaunchPad feature!

Thanks,



rotf2


Donny ..... NO WAY you could have watched it all by now ... this would even beat the rate at which you switch keys :-)

Top
#461225 - 11/09/18 04:32 PM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: Ketron_AJ]
Dnj Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Originally Posted By Ketron_AJ
Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By Ketron_AJ
LaunchPad Video (COMPLETE TUTORIAL):- https://youtu.be/uyvposAvy6A

Grab some coffee and enjoy this rather detail tutorial of the LaunchPad feature!

Thanks,



rotf2


Donny ..... NO WAY you could have watched it all by now ... this would even beat the rate at which you switch keys :-)


I didn't say I watched it I applauded you for posting it....

Top
#461226 - 11/09/18 06:13 PM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: Dnj]
Ketron_AJ Offline
Moderator

Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 3583
Loc: Middletown, DE
Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By Ketron_AJ
Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By Ketron_AJ
LaunchPad Video (COMPLETE TUTORIAL):- https://youtu.be/uyvposAvy6A

Grab some coffee and enjoy this rather detail tutorial of the LaunchPad feature!

Thanks,



rotf2


Donny ..... NO WAY you could have watched it all by now ... this would even beat the rate at which you switch keys :-)


I didn't say I watched it I applauded you for posting it....


Got me this time :-)

Top
#461235 - 11/10/18 03:04 AM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: Dnj]
Bachus Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 7143
Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By Ketron_AJ
Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By Ketron_AJ
LaunchPad Video (COMPLETE TUTORIAL):- https://youtu.be/uyvposAvy6A

Grab some coffee and enjoy this rather detail tutorial of the LaunchPad feature!

Thanks,



rotf2


Donny ..... NO WAY you could have watched it all by now ... this would even beat the rate at which you switch keys :-)


I didn't say I watched it I applauded you for posting it....


You should watch it, its the arranger feature that will be copied by all others and will change how we use arrangers in the next decade... its the pro arranger feature that will pull non arranger pro players into arranger country...

Altough i think it might be more suited for kronos and montage then for most yamaha arranger players.
_________________________
Yamaha Genos, Roland Jupiter 80, Ipad pro.

http://keyszone.boards.net

Top
#461241 - 11/10/18 05:49 AM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: Ketron_AJ]
Bachus Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 7143
I came to a strange conclusion from watching this..
Most of this can be done with a Yamaha Genos to..

When you think of scenes as registration memmories..
And use the channel on/off screen for switching channels on/off (and the multipads)
There is also the registration sequences
You get very close to the same possibilities(no audio guitars, but thats where yamaha has mega/voives)

But the workflow is way way less intuitive on the Genos.
For example using a style with a chordsequence requires some work(you need to use the normal sequencer)


This is where Korg trails...
You still can’t play midi files and play styles at the same time on Korg(atleast i haven’t figured out how)
And there are no convenient registration memmories..

Yet again, it is the convenient interface that makes this launchpad feature unique..
And offcourse there are some indepth features hard to cover on yamaha instruments..
_________________________
Yamaha Genos, Roland Jupiter 80, Ipad pro.

http://keyszone.boards.net

Top
#461253 - 11/10/18 08:15 AM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: Bachus]
Henni Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 12/01/08
Posts: 3456
Loc: South Africa
Bachus,

You are either confused or you do not understand the Launch Pads properly. You cannot come even close using the Genos to achieve the same results. Can you get a wav file to follow tempo and chord changes? Can you use parts of existing styles to build up a scene without editing the style as such? can you play a midi, wav file, other audio tracks, all following the tempo and chord changes? Can you seamlessly put all of this together with intros/endings and 6 scenes (variations) that could be played live as a style?

Please be so kind as to demonstrate in an video recording so we all could understand. Maybe you will enlighten the rest of us simpletons...

Better still, you have heard the results of the above on the SD series. Post us an MP3 file showing something similar achieved on the Genos, played LIVE that is!

We are looking forward in great anticipation to hearing something similar to this:

https://youtu.be/rJ5Kehsw-5o
_________________________
Make sure you'll fly forever!

Top
#461264 - 11/10/18 09:37 AM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: Ketron_AJ]
Dnj Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
"Finally ... a true merger between a sequencer, music arranger and multi-media performance musical instrument!
This is the complete tutorial video that explains all there is to know about the new LaunchPad features from KETRON. As a studio producer, professional musician or anyone who wants to have the great LIVE sound at thier finger tips, this is a must have! Produce Live Studio quality music for stage use in minutes. Save time and money at the studios. This is the next level in professional music."
For more info on KETRON products, call/text us at 267-323-5005


Edited by Dnj (11/10/18 09:38 AM)

Top
#461267 - 11/10/18 11:17 AM Re: New KETRON SD9/SD60/SD90 LAUNCHPAD - in depth.... [Re: Henni]
Bachus Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 7143
Originally Posted By Henni
Bachus,

You are either confused or you do not understand the Launch Pads properly. You cannot come even close using the Genos to achieve the same results. Can you get a wav file to follow tempo and chord changes? Can you use parts of existing styles to build up a scene without editing the style as such? can you play a midi, wav file, other audio tracks, all following the tempo and chord changes? Can you seamlessly put all of this together with intros/endings and 6 scenes (variations) that could be played live as a style?

Please be so kind as to demonstrate in an video recording so we all could understand. Maybe you will enlighten the rest of us simpletons...

Better still, you have heard the results of the above on the SD series. Post us an MP3 file showing something similar achieved on the Genos, played LIVE that is!

We are looking forward in great anticipation to hearing something similar to this:

https://youtu.be/rJ5Kehsw-5o


Problem arises..

I don’t own a Genos..

But except for the audio parts, i am pretty sure most of this can be done on any yamaha key.... as long as you recognise that a scene is actually the same as a performance memmory.. and on yamaha you can play the sequencer and a style at the same time..

Just set the sequencer in the performance memmory to keep repeating the part between 2 pointers and you have a loop...

The only thing missing is retriggering... but you can use the mute buttons in the channel delection screen of genos to play or mute sequencer tracks/style tracks

I cant find a picture, but this video shows the channel selection screen og genos a few times...




As said, the interface is much less intuitive... but it will work...
Just the midi parts offcourse... but then there is not much that the Genos can not do with midi.. the audio part is still Ketrons teritority..

But you underestimate what todays keyboards are capable of with some creative use.


Edited by Bachus (11/10/18 11:34 AM)
_________________________
Yamaha Genos, Roland Jupiter 80, Ipad pro.

http://keyszone.boards.net

Top
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4 >

Moderator:  Admin, Diki, Kerry 



Help keep Synth Zone Online