Im trying to a Boss FS-5U pedal for Vocal harmony on the Pa1000...
but I cant get it to work right.....I tried calibrating it and changing the polarity switch in back too,....I have it assigned to vocal harmony in the control settings also..

VH only works when I hold down the pedal when I release it goes off.....do I maybe need a BOSS FS-5L (latch) instead or do I need a single tip or double tip jack plug? .. or, am I doing something wrong here?

what are you people using for a pedal to trigger vocal harmony
on a KORG 1000?

thanx

I just use the harmony button next to mic volume button. no need to chase a foot switch.
MEL

Do you have another pedal to check? From your explination, a FS-5L would do what the FS-5U isn’t doing... latching into the position you want.

Enjoy the Pa1000!

Thanx...That doesn't work for me with both hands playing
and singing VH on & off..an on/off pedal is a must.

Donny you need the FS-5L and than it will work you press it once to stay on and press it again to turn it off. Cal

Thanx Cal I figured that out now...so I just ordered a FS-5L
then I can use a FS-5U for sustain & a FS-5L for on/off harmony


PS funny thing the FS-5U worked on my S970....go figure?

I would LOVE to have a pedal that would trigger the VH only when held down! That's the way the outboard units used to work. I never leave it on for very long. I want yours if you don't use it.

Ok we'll talk about it later..

Don ... That got me thinking, and I realized how often I hit the pedal for just a couple of words and then hit it again to turn it off ...

Donny, I believe the older models were triggered with a momentary switch, while the newer ones are triggered with a latching switch.

Gary

DonM and others: I wanted a "momentary" function like that for Bass Inversion. For example, if most are plain chords and there is just one "on bass" chord in the whole song, I didn't want to be stuck playing all the chords in root position. Pushing the footswitch twice quickly to turn it "on" and "off" didn't always work. (Aside: hard to believe that NONE of the major brands have this as a momentary function!) So I did some research and solved it a different way...

There's a company called Midi Solutions that makes a module called a Footswitch Controller. You can program it to send one MIDI message on press, and a different one upon release. So, as long as vocal harmony on-off can be controlled with a MIDI message, you can buy the Midi Solutions module and obtain your preferred momentary control.

If you're really handy with electronics, you could probably build some kind of timer circuit with an arduino, raspberry pi, etc. The Midi Solutions module worked for me.

Ted very interesting... Will look at it..

Donny- try Boss FS-6 dual pedal. Selectable polarity and momentary/latching mode for each of the two foot switches. One trs cable. New at Sweetwater, used on ebay. Boss FS-6

Had one, works great but needs a 9v battery or power supply.

Yes F6 needs battery ( no external power input). F7 has ext pwr but not individual modes selectability.

Had one, works great but needs a 9v battery or power supply......
I like the single units better more versatile....
FS-5L on the way ...fingers crossed..I hope it works....


does anyone know for sure that has a PA1000....????

MIDI Solutions Footswitch

I have an FS-6 too, tried that first. If the function does not support a momentary switch in the board's operating system, changing the setting on the pedal won't help.

You have to use MIDI messages (with an "off" message upon release as permitted by the Midi Solutions module.)

If you're really good with electronics, you could build a generic switched circuit that closes briefly on press, then reopens, and closes again upon release. Hard to believe Roland, Boss, Korg don't sell a switch like this either!

I have no problem when I hold down
the pedal "HARMONY ON"......

Lift up foot "Harmony Off" using the FS-5U
But I want it to stay on when my foot is lifted off the pedal..and shut off again when I press down.

Again, I'm glad to hear it will work that way on the Korg. I'll be it doesn't on the Yamaha, but I'll try it.
I'm pretty sure I "feel" another PA4X in the near future.

Now you're talking Don... Go for It
And good luck..

Enjoying the 4X and I know you did too, Don. The guitars really shine, perfect for your style. I know there are a few here for sale - not mine

I am going to try the FS-5L pedal soon on Pa1000 ee if it works..
yes on pa4x/pa3x FS-5U pedal works fine .....but, Not on the Pa1000?...
......thats what puzzles me,
..could this be a "bug" that needs attention in the next OS update,or?

I think it's not a bug, but a design, to allow you to use the momentary (FS-5U) foot switch as it is designed to be used. If you need the on/off just use the Latching (FS-5L) model.
It's a good thing to me!

Don I'm hoping that also ......I was just used to the way it always worked on previous models, be it korg, yamah etc, ....
I'll know when the FS-5L gets here.....

I use a standard sustain pedal on my Yamaha and it works as latching switch for vh. Obviously a new Korg thing.

Donny - I apologize ... I just realized that my mic has never been plugged into my pa1000, as it's been dedicated for studio use. I haven't sung through it yet. I DID plug in a double unlatched pedal, and the damper worked fine, so I ASSumed that the other pedal would do my bidding in a similar manner. I just went in to check, and even the menu is different. I'm not sure if the mic needs to be plugged in to get the right choices, or not, but I don't even see an on/off selection for harmony in the list. I don't have time to fiddle with it right now, but sorry I steered you wrong. This is the first kb I ever had that wasn't a snap to hook up an on/off harmony pedal. Curious.

thank you Dave UNLIKE ALL OUR PREVIOUS KORG KBs... Dave I look forward to your next reply as to if it works or not on your Pa1000 as discussed unlatched or latched etc for VH...

Donny - I just went through the entire menu of choices for the footswitches, and there is no setting for harmony on/off listed. The choice for mic harmony volume is meant for a continuous controller, like an expression pedal. As far as I can see, there is actually no way to turn the harmony on and off with a pedal. That'd be a deal breaker for me, if I was using it only ion the studio. Disappointing. Maybe an oversight?
I'm setting this reply in it's own post, as I think it's a huge issue for potential users.

"Pocket Pedal"

Dave you can as I am doing now HOLD DOWN the pedal
for V harmony ON....& release for V harmony OFF with the
FS-5U........interesting to see what the FS-5L does with it......
to be continued,.. or maybe KORG needs to update this in next
OS Update??.. where do you email KORG for UPDATED suggestions?

Donny, try this link:

http://i.korg.com/contactus/inquiryform.aspx?loc=korg.com

Hey guys. There is a setting for harmony on off but it's called harmony double It does not latch with standard petal and if you try it you better make sure to hit the petal again before you unplug it or it will not turn on or off with the manual button. just found out also there is a setting for lead voice on or off. again hit petal and make sure mic mute is working before unplugging. I am guessing this holds true for all foot petals settings.
MEL

Yes the manual says you must use an expression pedal to get the Harmony/Double volume to work correctly. Still if the momentary pedal does it as long as you hold it down, that's the way I'd use it! I hate having to press to turn vh on and press again to turn it off.
It's much easier for it to engage only when you are holding it down. Most harmonizers used to have the option to do it either way.

Just for kicks I tried my KORG sustain pedal in the 'Assignable' pedal input jack which I have set for VH On/Off ... pressed once to turn on, had to press again to turn off ...

Tony Pa900 is not the Pa1000....

REALLY ?!?!? OH WOW ...
just thought I would see what happens ...
At least I didn't take it too far SOUTH !!!

I too, assumed that this very basic feature would be brought over to the new line, but there is no selection to turn vocal harmony on off with a foot pedal. Oversight - maybe, but at this juncture - there does not exist an option.

Actually there is a solution. Just use an expression pedal and assign the vocal harmony to it, like the manual says.

an expression pedal is bulky, annoying and very awkward to
trigger & switch VH on & off thruout a song...it's just WRONG...

Common KORG you know you screwed up just fix it asap in next OS please!!

I'm going to bet that it's not broken. I just don't believe they would make a "mistake" of that magnitude. Have you tried all types of pedals?

I would say obviously and oversight on KORG'S part as all previous models had this feature.......
I will try a FS-5L as soon as it arrives,...until then I am stuck in the ("Hold Down, lift Off") the Pedal (unlatched) at this time

https://www.joness.com/gr300/FC-100.htm



I have a like new Roland FC pedal board that I recently purchased.. I also have a brand new cable...

I purchased this unit by mistake thinking it to be the FC7..

If someone can use it, I will sell it for $50 plus shipping..

It seems like folks have altered this type of unit to meet their needs... Look at the link above..

Using an expression pedal is a very different skill set for this application. To accurately recreate the exact level of harmony would be challenging, to say the least. To say more, the time to throw the pedal from min to max takes more energy, and timing than a simple press of a switch.
Korg my think that omitting an on/off feature was a good idea, but I can't imagine they did it on purpose. Every harmonizer I've ever had over the last 30+ years has had the option to tun on/off with a single switch. This expression option is a nice addition, but hardly a substitute.

Apparently it will still work as you wish if you use the correct foot switch.

Big Ditto... +1

Maybe it's semantics, but there is no "correct" switch, as the option to turn on/off doesn't exist. The idea that a latching pedal can achieve a similar result in a category intended for expression is a workaround. The end result may be the same to your ears, but in truth, the action being performed is different.
This is absolutely a devil's advocate discussion, and I kinda like it. To quote a famous philanderer: "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is.

Dave have you plugged in a pedal and tried it? Just curious. If the momentary pedal works as it should, and according to DNJ it does, then perhaps the latching pedal will work as it should. I'm still thinking it's an improved design. Hope so anyway, for those who have them.

Drumroll please!!!!

Ladies & Gentleman I am proud to announce & report that the
BOSS FS-5L (latching) Pedal controls Vocal Harmony
ON & OFF on the Pa1000 perfectly as it should !!!
I am a happy Camper once again!..thanx for all the help & concern!!

The sky wasn't falling after all.

Sustain/Vocal Harmony