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#451933 - 05/14/18 06:20 AM Re: Played the 4X live yesterday [Re: zuki]
zuki Offline
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Not beating a dead horse here, but I have to work hard to keep the 4X. Not the panacea that I thought it would be. I really believe 61 (vs 76) minimizes the potential of an arranger. I might try to sell and buy a 76 version.
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#451936 - 05/14/18 06:36 AM Re: Played the 4X live yesterday [Re: zuki]
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Originally Posted By zuki
Not beating a dead horse here, but I have to work hard to keep the 4X. Not the panacea that I thought it would be. I really believe 61 (vs 76) minimizes the potential of an arranger. I might try to sell and buy a 76 version.


Good luck Zuki,....keep changing gear & downsizing until you are comfortable and find exactly what rig your happy with,.......in the NH gig game Lightweight In & Out especially for doubles & triple jobs per day is key otherwise it becomes cumbersome & tiresome too,....no one wants to lug around and set up alot of gear day after day. It takes much trial and error but eventually it all works out.


Edited by Dnj (05/14/18 06:36 AM)

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#452000 - 05/15/18 01:54 PM Re: Played the 4X live yesterday [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Tilt always... Sit always,!



yeah ... like you "always" ANYTHING!
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#452003 - 05/15/18 03:22 PM Re: Played the 4X live yesterday [Re: zuki]
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The very first time I saw DNJ performing he was standing and the screens didn't tilt. wink Aging has a way of changing things around. And, sometimes we get smarter. smile

Gary cool
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#452004 - 05/15/18 03:44 PM Re: Played the 4X live yesterday [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By travlin'easy
The very first time I saw DNJ performing he was standing and the screens didn't tilt. wink Aging has a way of changing things around. And, sometimes we get smarter. smile

Gary cool


You are correct Gary I stood for 30+ yrs and until I got smart and my legs, ankles, & knees told me it's time to sit down and play, no one wants to see some fat guy standing and swaying his but around trying to look kool! surprised ......
good thing I listened to my body wink
As far as the glare on a fixed screen it really sux when your a very low sitter under overhead recessed lights, or outdoors. etc,...most time a second tier shelf or sun enclosure was needed to see the display. I enjoy a Tilted screen for sure.. sheeesh even my old Tecnics KN5000, KN6000, KN7000, Tyros, had Tilt displays...
stand or squint if you like but it's NOT for me ..

all the best


Edited by Dnj (05/15/18 03:54 PM)

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#452005 - 05/15/18 05:22 PM Re: Played the 4X live yesterday [Re: Dnj]
tony mads usa Offline
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Originally Posted By Dnj

... no one wants to see some fat guy standing and swaying his but around trying to look kool! surprised ......
all the best


How about if the guy is skinny, is that ok? ...
I stand most of the time, but I assure you, I'm not shakin' my butt to look "kool" ... rolleyes

Personally, I do not like the look of someone sitting low behind a KB, although some kind of curtain or screen from kb to floor improves the look somewhat ...
When I do sit - generally for anything longer than 1 hour - I set my seat fairly high, so I am more leaning on it than sitting ...
But, nothing is perfect, right?, and to each his own ...
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#452006 - 05/15/18 05:32 PM Re: Played the 4X live yesterday [Re: tony mads usa]
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Originally Posted By tony mads usa
Originally Posted By Dnj

... no one wants to see some fat guy standing and swaying his but around trying to look kool! surprised ......
all the best


How about if the guy is skinny, is that ok? ...
I stand most of the time, but I assure you, I'm not shakin' my butt to look "kool" ... rolleyes

Personally, I do not like the look of someone sitting low behind a KB, although some kind of curtain or screen from kb to floor improves the look somewhat ...
When I do sit - generally for anything longer than 1 hour - I set my seat fairly high, so I am more leaning on it than sitting ...
But, nothing is perfect, right?, and to each his own ...


Try standing for a double 4hr gig in a row.... Ouch!


Edited by Dnj (05/15/18 06:33 PM)

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#452007 - 05/15/18 05:46 PM Re: Played the 4X live yesterday [Re: zuki]
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Two reasons I don't normally stand--my jobs are four hours, and often turn into five hours and I can't stand that long doing anything! And I use three or more foot switches and it's hard to do when standing.
I have an adjustable office stool that I've used for years and usually sit pretty high so everyone can see me.
JICYWTK smile
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#452008 - 05/15/18 06:24 PM Re: Played the 4X live yesterday [Re: DonM]
Eric, B Offline
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Same here.
Using 2 foot switches. No way I can stand.
Plus sitting ain't that bad.
Howe about Billy Joel or Elton John and others like that?
Eric
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#452009 - 05/15/18 07:32 PM Re: Played the 4X live yesterday [Re: Eric, B]
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Donny ... Of course not ... as I said, anything over 1 hour, the 'Throne' is on the gig ...

Don ... Along with playing 4+ hours, using 2 or 3 switches would necessitate a seat ...

Eric ... I definitely think there is a difference between sitting low at a kb and sitting at a grand piano ...
BTW ... When I saw Billy Joel live, when he did play at a kb he was standing ... of course, he only did a couple of songs with the kb ...

I have nothing against sitting while playing ... sometimes I sit, sometimes I stand ...
I just don't think someone sitting low at a kb presents a 'good look' ...
JMHO

As long as someone is making beautiful music, I don't care if they are standing, sitting, or lying down ... wink
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