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#448885 - 03/17/18 02:09 PM mic not plugged into keyboard
organgrinder Offline
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Does anybody not use on board mic controls and just plug mic into P.A. system. Sometimes I just get sick of constantly messing with mic volume
every time I turn my keyboard up or down for a song. I then use roland vp7 into bose and problem solved.

MEL
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#448886 - 03/17/18 02:27 PM Re: mic not plugged into keyboard [Re: organgrinder]
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That's the beauty of using a mic & Kb in a mixer with fx..


Edited by Dnj (03/17/18 04:02 PM)
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#448891 - 03/17/18 04:22 PM Re: mic not plugged into keyboard [Re: organgrinder]
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I had that problem, straight into the keys. I went mixer (not the QSC speakers, through the Yamaha mixer) and wow, so much more control.

Saying that, I'm going to try again with the 4X and see how the VH suits me this time.

Curious: doesn't the 1000 have a separate mic volume control? I know what you mean though. Turn up the mic on a song and the next song blows the mic up!

https://on-stage.com/products/view/11983
btw: here is a great attachment. I use one for my mic boom and one for my mixer (Yamaha mixer has an attachment) - one of the best inventions ever smile
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#448892 - 03/17/18 04:58 PM Re: mic not plugged into keyboard [Re: zuki]
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zuki ... I have two of those also ... one for mic and one for tablet ...
Yes, I use a tablet for chords and lyrics I don't remember ... but that had been OVER-discussed already ... laugh2 dancers
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#448896 - 03/17/18 06:04 PM Re: mic not plugged into keyboard [Re: tony mads usa]
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Originally Posted By tony mads usa
zuki ... I have two of those also ... one for mic and one for tablet ...
Yes, I use a tablet for chords and lyrics I don't remember ... but that had been OVER-discussed already ... laugh2 dancers


So far, I can do without for hour or two gigs, but would need if I played a long job. Don't see that in my future smile
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#448898 - 03/17/18 06:15 PM Re: mic not plugged into keyboard [Re: organgrinder]
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Originally Posted By organgrinder
Does anybody not use on board mic controls and just plug mic into P.A. system. Sometimes I just get sick of constantly messing with mic volume
every time I turn my keyboard up or down for a song. I then use roland vp7 into bose and problem solved.
MEL


Does the PA have separate eq/fx for the mic? ... and I'm assuming you don't use the VH? ... If you do, you could run the mic through a small VH unit which would handle your eq/fx/volume/harmony ...
A small mixer is good to have, but 99% of the time I just run the mic through the KB ...
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#448901 - 03/17/18 07:29 PM Re: mic not plugged into keyboard [Re: organgrinder]
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Mic sounds great through the pa1000 and yes it does have a mic volume but I am forever changing it because when you turn up the keyboard the mic volume gets louder faster so you then have to turn down the mic volume and the reverse is also true. My roland vp7 is a super under rated unit and gives me great harmony parts
and acts like a mic mixer plus effects unit and I can even get a full choir plus it have compression and many other features but
for small nursing home gigs sometimes I have to go light.Just keyboard speakers. Nowhere near the great sound I like. I wish
modern arrangers would have a straight output for mic not affected by master volume control.

MEL
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#448902 - 03/17/18 08:21 PM Re: mic not plugged into keyboard [Re: organgrinder]
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I never encountered that problem, but I'm old and deaf, so it probably doesn't count. wink In reality, I never had to change the mic settings once I turned on the keyboard and selected my setup registration which has my mic settings in place. At that point, I just played and sang - no problems.

Good luck,

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#448903 - 03/17/18 08:54 PM Re: mic not plugged into keyboard [Re: organgrinder]
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I use a separate mixer (Sonar/Roland VS100) for my mic and my wife’s mic. FX... Comp... EQ.

On the PA4X, I used the mic once in a while. I would set my volume and leave it. To control balance of my mp3 backing tracks, I used the assigned slider. To control my R1 sound, I would use the slider. I set the main volume and leave it.

For bigger gigs, I would split my mic with the radial MS2... one to the Pa4X... one to the mixer... and one to my Roland VP-7. Then I have 2 harmonizers and one normal mic signal. It gave me choices and the best of all I had. The VP-7 is a great harmonizer... especially when I want a choir type of harmony.
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#448904 - 03/17/18 10:06 PM Re: mic not plugged into keyboard [Re: organgrinder]
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With the PA4X, I generally used the Automatic mic processor, so it pretty much maintains the right e.q., level, gate and compressor. Works like a charm.
The overall E.Q. of the keyboard does affect it too though. The MAXX settings are wonderful, but you have to experiment some to get the right sound for your speakers and venue.
With the S970 I'm using an external T.C. Helicon unit for several reasons. It sounds better than the internal Yamaha processor/harmonizer, it gives me an extra foot pedal setting for the keyboard because it has its own pedal, and it maintains a steady volume level. It also processes the voice automatically.
I have a spare T.C. Helicon Harmony M if anyone needs it. btw.
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#448909 - 03/18/18 04:20 AM Re: mic not plugged into keyboard [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By DonM
With the PA4X, I generally used the Automatic mic processor, so it pretty much maintains the right e.q., level, gate and compressor. Works like a charm.
The overall E.Q. of the keyboard does affect it too though. The MAXX settings are wonderful, but you have to experiment some to get the right sound for your speakers and venue.
With the S970 I'm using an external T.C. Helicon unit for several reasons. It sounds better than the internal Yamaha processor/harmonizer, it gives me an extra foot pedal setting for the keyboard because it has its own pedal, and it maintains a steady volume level. It also processes the voice automatically.
I have a spare T.C. Helicon Harmony M if anyone needs it. btw.


Big Ditto on s970 voc Don! wink personally I like using separate channels to control each with the mixer w/FX for my mic, VH, and KB...


Edited by Dnj (03/18/18 07:49 AM)
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#448913 - 03/18/18 06:24 AM Re: mic not plugged into keyboard [Re: organgrinder]
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Originally Posted By organgrinder
I wish modern arrangers would have a straight output for mic not affected by master volume control.


Many do. The PA4X has separate outs that you can assign to the mic (or whatever) and send direct to your amp ... with FX
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#448920 - 03/18/18 07:34 AM Re: mic not plugged into keyboard [Re: organgrinder]
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More tips, will explore thx ud


Edited by zuki (03/18/18 07:34 AM)
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