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#447827 - 03/03/18 10:17 AM Re: Q2n video/audio [Re: Uncle Dave]
Uncle Dave Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Thanks for all the great feedback guys. Here's the signal chain:
My mic goes direct to the Korg PA900. I have a preset for harmonies that follow each of the keys, so I was set to a third above in G major. That way it does not have to track the guitar. (it just KNOWS) I use the same footswitch as if I was playing the KB.
The guitar is a special beast. It's a Frankenstrat, built from the ground up. The body is a lightweight, basswood deal I got on eBay. The neck is a 12" radius Warmoth, all maple. (curly, or flamed, or some such thing)
The inside has 3 Fender vintage noiseless pickups, and an L.R.Baggs Piezo acoustic bridge. I can blend between the two sounds, output separately, or together.
What you heard was about 90% acoustic bridge pickup, with 10% dark neck pickup blended in. It sounds almost as good as my Taylor 714 when it's plugged it.
I love this guitar because it's LIGHT .... about 5 lbs. (compares to my Parker Flys of yesterday) ... and it sounds Soooooooo sweet.

Thanks again. I love that song, too.
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#447831 - 03/03/18 10:39 AM Re: Q2n video/audio [Re: Uncle Dave]
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
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Trying to follow, so you only can use the harmony while you are G chord?
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#447860 - 03/04/18 02:52 AM Re: Q2n video/audio [Re: Uncle Dave]
john smies Offline
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Registered: 05/05/00
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Loc: koudekerke, Holland.
Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
Thanks for all the great feedback guys. Here's the signal chain:
My mic goes direct to the Korg PA900. I have a preset for harmonies that follow each of the keys, so I was set to a third above in G major. That way it does not have to track the guitar. (it just KNOWS) I use the same footswitch as if I was playing the KB.
The guitar is a special beast. It's a Frankenstrat, built from the ground up. The body is a lightweight, basswood deal I got on eBay. The neck is a 12" radius Warmoth, all maple. (curly, or flamed, or some such thing)
The inside has 3 Fender vintage noiseless pickups, and an L.R.Baggs Piezo acoustic bridge. I can blend between the two sounds, output separately, or together.
What you heard was about 90% acoustic bridge pickup, with 10% dark neck pickup blended in. It sounds almost as good as my Taylor 714 when it's plugged it.
I love this guitar because it's LIGHT .... about 5 lbs. (compares to my Parker Flys of yesterday) ... and it sounds Soooooooo sweet.

Thanks again. I love that song, too.


Let me get this straight: You are in fact not in any way linking the guitar to any harmonizer contraption but are using the Vocaliser on the PA900 (at the touch of a pedal) to bring in the harmonies created by the PA900 without playing anything on the PA900 ?
That could save me the trouble and expense of hanging on to the TC Helicon Play Acoustic which I currently have on approval...
But how can the PA900 track your voice correctly if ,say, you only press a G chord to start with and then go on playing a number of other chords in that song on your guitar only, the guitar being in no way linked to the keyboard and/or vocaliser ?

regards,
John

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#447874 - 03/04/18 07:55 AM Re: Q2n video/audio [Re: Uncle Dave]
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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John if you notice the KB is SET to GMajor by just pressing those eg: G,B,D, keys before you start
and Dave is ONLY using VH on a GMajor chord on/off pedal thruout this song,.......this way no need for the keyboard to track different chords..

PS keep your Play Acoustic Harmony Box cool2


Edited by Dnj (03/04/18 07:57 AM)

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#447883 - 03/04/18 08:42 AM Re: Q2n video/audio [Re: Uncle Dave]
synerjim Offline
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Registered: 10/27/03
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Loc: CA
Thanks Uncle Dave for this sentimental song. One of my fave Beatles song.
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#447920 - 03/04/18 09:05 PM Re: Q2n video/audio [Re: DonM]
Uncle Dave Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Loc: Penn Yan, NY
Originally Posted By DonM
Trying to follow, so you only can use the harmony while you are G chord?


Nope - the intelligence of the TC follows a diatonic scale and "feels" when I'm singing over the other chords in that scale. In this song, there's a MAJ 2 chord that I can't harmonize because the preset wants to play a min harmony, which is more typical. There's 3 settings, and each one handles the scale a little differently. I used this one:
I ii iii IV V vi vii
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#447921 - 03/04/18 09:09 PM Re: Q2n video/audio [Re: Dnj]
Uncle Dave Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 12800
Loc: Penn Yan, NY
Originally Posted By Dnj
John if you notice the KB is SET to GMajor by just pressing those eg: G,B,D, keys before you start
and Dave is ONLY using VH on a GMajor chord on/off pedal thruout this song,.......this way no need for the keyboard to track different chords..

PS keep your Play Acoustic Harmony Box cool2


Donny - nope. That's not it. The TC follows all the typical chords changes as I address them. It's kinda freaky how accurate it is.
I don't trigger the harmonizer at all. I simply turn it on and off. The preset is created to follow a diatonic scale. I have 2 banks, one with a simple 1 up, and another with 2 up.
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#447946 - 03/05/18 07:48 AM Re: Q2n video/audio [Re: Uncle Dave]
john smies Offline
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Registered: 05/05/00
Posts: 1384
Loc: koudekerke, Holland.


thanks for the update Dave, amazing really....
Still (Donny) I will hang on to my TC Helicon Play Acoustic as well, after all it does so much more for the guitar than just adding harmonies to the vocals.

regards,
John

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#447982 - 03/05/18 12:05 PM Re: Q2n video/audio [Re: Uncle Dave]
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
Originally Posted By Dnj
John if you notice the KB is SET to GMajor by just pressing those eg: G,B,D, keys before you start
and Dave is ONLY using VH on a GMajor chord on/off pedal thruout this song,.......this way no need for the keyboard to track different chords..

PS keep your Play Acoustic Harmony Box cool2


Donny - nope. That's not it. The TC follows all the typical chords changes as I address them. It's kinda freaky how accurate it is.
I don't trigger the harmonizer at all. I simply turn it on and off. The preset is created to follow a diatonic scale. I have 2 banks, one with a simple 1 up, and another with 2 up.




Whoooops but it was a good guess.. wink

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#447986 - 03/05/18 01:04 PM Re: Q2n video/audio [Re: Uncle Dave]
tony mads usa Offline
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Registered: 01/16/02
Posts: 14376
Loc: East Greenwich RI USA
Originally Posted By Uncle Dave

Donny - nope. That's not it. The TC follows all the typical chords changes as I address them. It's kinda freaky how accurate it is.
I don't trigger the harmonizer at all. I simply turn it on and off. The preset is created to follow a diatonic scale. I have 2 banks, one with a simple 1 up, and another with 2 up.


My Digitech Vocalist WorkstationEX does the same thing ... just press the 'button' corresponding to the key you are singing in and it just follows your voice - correctly ! ... could never quite figure out how ...
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