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#447337 - 02/25/18 05:55 AM 3X vs 4X
zuki Offline
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Those who have had both, what are your thoughts? Is the 4X light years ahead, are they fairly equal, etc.

The 1000 didn't thrill me and I have these weird thoughts that the 4X might be an overblown 1000.

When I sell the 1000, I will buy another board, but still on the fence.

The 3X 76 is so hard to beat.

Any thoughts appreciated
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#447339 - 02/25/18 06:20 AM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: zuki]
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Zuki after you get the Pa4x the 3x will be a thing of the past......you will never look back
yes it's that much better the the Pa3x in so many ways..sound, style, editing, display, navigation,KAOSS, play ability,
dive in, dig deep, make it your own, and create music like you never have before,.....hurry!

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#447340 - 02/25/18 06:26 AM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: Dnj]
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Zuki’s,

Perhaps a dumb question...

Any chance you could find a 4X to play?
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#447341 - 02/25/18 06:30 AM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: Dnj]
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No dumb questions here.......I would have to order a 4X to try. No one stocks high end around these parts.
Originally Posted By Dnj
Zuki after you get the Pa4x the 3x will be a thing of the past......you will never look back
yes it's that much better the the Pa3x in so many ways..sound, style, editing, display, navigation,KAOSS, play ability,
dive in, dig deep, make it your own, and create music like you never have before,.....hurry!

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Hurry is right - not getting younger smile
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#447342 - 02/25/18 06:33 AM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: zuki]
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Quote:

Hurry is right - not getting younger smile


I wish you luck Pa4x a very wise choice that you will certainly appreciate for years to come. You music will soar like never before.
Go For It!!

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#447343 - 02/25/18 06:38 AM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: zuki]
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Just curious on why you gave up on it? Too much board for your needs, etc?
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#447345 - 02/25/18 06:56 AM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: zuki]
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Originally Posted By zuki
Just curious on why you gave up on it? Too much board for your needs, etc?


Zuki I had two Pa4x units, ......best arranger kb I have ever played..
it's ALL PRO for gigging... keys Needs did change, I reassessed my priorities, and restructured my rig for what I am doing now. That's not to say down the road I won't have to do it again.;) But for now I am happy. I would recommend the KORG Pa4x to anybody who is serious about their music,....they really addressed the NEEDS of the Pro player this time. Good luck to you.

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#447352 - 02/25/18 08:48 AM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: zuki]
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PA4X is a HUGE improvement over the 3X. New sound engine, many new sounds, every style improved...MUCH more. You won't regret it. I've hand mine for about two years and still learning things.
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#447353 - 02/25/18 08:58 AM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By zuki
Just curious on why you gave up on it? Too much board for your needs, etc?


Zuki I had two Pa4x units, ......best arranger kb I have ever played..
it's ALL PRO for gigging... keys Needs did change, I reassessed my priorities, and restructured my rig for what I am doing now. That's not to say down the road I won't have to do it again.;) But for now I am happy. I would recommend the KORG Pa4x to anybody who is serious about their music,....they really addressed the NEEDS of the Pro player this time. Good luck to you.


Actually the ea-7 is a budget pa4x, it really is, if it wasn’t for the low end keybed, i would own one...
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#447354 - 02/25/18 09:15 AM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: zuki]
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Jim,

I may have posted this in another section of SZ. I had no interest in a Pa4x because I had a 3x and was very satisfied with it. A year later after all the discussion here, I went to Frankieve’s store to demo that bad boy. The only mistake I made was I left without taking one home that same day and had to make another 200 mile round trip to pick up my 4x-76. You’re gonna love it!

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#447355 - 02/25/18 09:36 AM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: Bachus]
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Originally Posted By Bachus
Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By zuki
Just curious on why you gave up on it? Too much board for your needs, etc?


Zuki I had two Pa4x units, ......best arranger kb I have ever played..
it's ALL PRO for gigging... keys Needs did change, I reassessed my priorities, and restructured my rig for what I am doing now. That's not to say down the road I won't have to do it again.;) But for now I am happy. I would recommend the KORG Pa4x to anybody who is serious about their music,....they really addressed the NEEDS of the Pro player this time. Good luck to you.


Actually the ea-7 is a budget pa4x, it really is, if it wasn’t for the low end keybed, i would own one...


Interesting.....I thought about this, because I don't use the sliders or VH. But that fixed screen and the keys - what other board are the keys similar too?



Edited by zuki (02/25/18 09:36 AM)
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#447356 - 02/25/18 09:43 AM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: zuki]
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After the 3x you won't be happy with EA7. Well at least I wasn't, too many compromises.
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#447358 - 02/25/18 09:46 AM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: zuki]
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For all people interested in pa4x
And pa4x owners

Dont forget to check out this workshop
There are 7 parts now

http://keyszone.boards.net/thread/512/korg-pa4x-workshop-bonedo

Its translated from German.
And orriginally created by Jürgen Saritorius.
He is the official German Korg Guru.
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#447359 - 02/25/18 09:48 AM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: zuki]
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Originally Posted By zuki
Originally Posted By Bachus
Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By zuki
Just curious on why you gave up on it? Too much board for your needs, etc?


Zuki I had two Pa4x units, ......best arranger kb I have ever played..
it's ALL PRO for gigging... keys Needs did change, I reassessed my priorities, and restructured my rig for what I am doing now. That's not to say down the road I won't have to do it again.;) But for now I am happy. I would recommend the KORG Pa4x to anybody who is serious about their music,....they really addressed the NEEDS of the Pro player this time. Good luck to you.


Actually the ea-7 is a budget pa4x, it really is, if it wasn’t for the low end keybed, i would own one...


Interesting.....I thought about this, because I don't use the sliders or VH. But that fixed screen and the keys - what other board are the keys similar too?



I tought they felt like a cheap Casio keyboard...
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#447360 - 02/25/18 09:50 AM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: Bachus]
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Jim ... You got the "Double D and S" endorsement ... go for it ...
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#447361 - 02/25/18 10:06 AM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: Bachus]
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Originally Posted By Bachus

Actually the ea-7 is a budget pa4x, it really is....


eek2 surprised
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#447362 - 02/25/18 10:09 AM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By DonM
PA4X is a HUGE improvement over the 3X. New sound engine, many new sounds, every style improved...MUCH more. You won't regret it. I've hand mine for about two years and still learning things.


Don you forgot to tell them..all that for less $$ then a genos too....just sayin..

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#447363 - 02/25/18 10:09 AM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: Bachus]
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I just have the feeling you might be too used to Pa3x to really like anything else.

Which is fine, of course.

You should listen all demos yuo can find and then try to test in person...


Edited by adimatis (02/25/18 10:10 AM)
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#447364 - 02/25/18 10:43 AM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By DonM
After the 3x you won't be happy with EA7. Well at least I wasn't, too many compromises.


I was not reading well. I thought he meant PA3Xle
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#447365 - 02/25/18 10:47 AM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: zuki]
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This is where the pa4x shines..



Self created sounds..
The sound engine is so powerfull for creative people..
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#447380 - 02/25/18 02:01 PM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: zuki]
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The new guitars alone are worth the price!
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#447403 - 02/25/18 06:40 PM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: zuki]
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Hi Zuki,
Currently I still have both, though, I will be selling my pa3x shortly, we’re planning on downsizing homes, so need to sell a keyboard or two.

Even though I’m only a hobbyist, I feel Pa4x has more to offer. Sound quality is better. Direct play is extremely handy. Being able to just copy and paste styles is great, makes organising styles so much easier.

You really should try and get your hands on one, to appreciate the difference.
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#447404 - 02/25/18 06:57 PM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: zuki]
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That does it. Rikki and I agree so get your order in NOW! smile We'll both send you some styles!
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#447405 - 02/25/18 07:12 PM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By DonM
That does it. Rikki and I agree so get your order in NOW! smile We'll both send you some styles!


Ditto wink

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#447435 - 02/26/18 07:43 AM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By DonM
That does it. Rikki and I agree so get your order in NOW! smile We'll both send you some styles!


Thanks Don - I'm working on it. Trying to unload the 1000 is not an easy task
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#447474 - 02/26/18 09:44 PM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: zuki]
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Hi Zuki, what didn’t you like about the 1000?
And yes , more than happy to send you my style database.
I was keen on getting a Pa4x, Don managed to reinforce the fact I needed one. Haha
Great keyboard,
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#447475 - 02/26/18 11:56 PM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: zuki]
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Originally Posted By zuki
Those who have had both, what are your thoughts? Is the 4X light years ahead, are they fairly equal, etc.

The 1000 didn't thrill me and I have these weird thoughts that the 4X might be an overblown 1000.

When I sell the 1000, I will buy another board, but still on the fence.

The 3X 76 is so hard to beat.


Any thoughts appreciated


I don't know if you are aware of it but you have the PA4x sound with the PA1000 just not the extra features like more fills, EC5 connections etc;


Edited by vangelis (02/26/18 11:57 PM)
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#447480 - 02/27/18 05:25 AM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: zuki]
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It has to be more than that?
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#447485 - 02/27/18 06:00 AM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: zuki]
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I had a Tyros 2 and a PSR-S910.... but used the Motif ES to sequence full arrangements from scratch.

Then I went through a few for a gigging option to playback files while giving me good sounds to play along.

Roland BK-9
Korg Pa900
Yamaha PSR-970
Korg Pa4X

By far, the Pa4X sounds the best (to me) all around. The Maxx Audio stuff... better outputs... keybed feel... overall construction of the “Made In Italy” instrument... and the sounds are great!!

I love the Pa4X but I will have something else in my near future!! I wish I could keep both... best of both worlds but I need to sell things to get things... room and budget are factors. Good luck with your choice!!
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#447486 - 02/27/18 06:03 AM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: shueymusic]
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Originally Posted By shueymusic
I had a Tyros 2 and a PSR-S910.... but used the Motif ES to sequence full arrangements from scratch.

Then I went through a few for a gigging option to playback files while giving me good sounds to play along.

Roland BK-9
Korg Pa900
Yamaha PSR-970
Korg Pa4X

By far, the Pa4X sounds the best (to me) all around. The Maxx Audio stuff... better outputs... keybed feel... overall construction of the “Made In Italy” instrument... and the sounds are great!!

I love the Pa4X but I will have something else in my near future!! I wish I could keep both... best of both worlds but I need to sell things to get things... room and budget are factors. Good luck with your choice!!


Jon wise move to keep the KORG Pa4x it can do it all...

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#447516 - 02/27/18 06:57 PM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: zuki]
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Originally Posted By zuki
It has to be more than that?


Hi Zuki, there may be some sort of comparison list available. Really sounds like you need to get your hands on one.
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#447522 - 02/27/18 09:37 PM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: zuki]
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Originally Posted By zuki
It has to be more than that?


This is as far as i got

No fill tabs
No EC5 connection
Less styles
Less sounds <1GB rom vs 5.1 GB rom
Less user sample memmory
Lower quallity keybed
Lower build quallity (housing)
No drawbars/sliders
Lower quallity D/A converters.
No MAXX audio mastering effects
Less DSP (2 inserts for songs and 2 master effect)

looks like a quite extensive list..
Most of these things i use frequently on my PA4x..
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#447841 - 03/03/18 01:27 PM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: zuki]
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I sent you a Private Message Zuki.
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#447844 - 03/03/18 02:46 PM Re: 3X vs 4X [Re: Dnj]
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Donny...I think John has the big “G” in his future. My guess is the 4X will be finding a new home✈️

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