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#446652 - 02/16/18 08:55 AM
Re: All the Pop Styles of the Genos
[Re: Kabinopus]
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Registered: 12/15/99
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Loc: Ventura, Ca, USA
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This video made me feel like I have Genos at home and to tell the truth it's not a nice feeling. I think reading a lot of excitement about how great Genos is messes with brains more than the product itself. It is just rather close to PSR, let's say, S770, but costs 4 times more... Which is not that close... I am amazed how people make an expert judgment from a YouTube video listening over computer speakers. I have the Genos and the S970 at home. Believe me, they don't sound anything alike through my Bose speakers. They are not in the same league. ....  Eric
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#446668 - 02/16/18 11:15 AM
Re: All the Pop Styles of the Genos
[Re: Mikem]
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Registered: 11/11/04
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Loc: Russia
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Well, to put it simple, YouTube losses some data but not that drastically and I’m using the same earphones to watch the video as I use with my PSR-S950. I don’t really want to argue, but it’s not really about people and their preferences, it’s about an offer which Yamaha makes and trying to reveal what’s real and what’s misleading.
Let’s just say that PSR-S950 was promoted as a keyboard which would grow with its owner because of expansion packs. How long did it last? Till the next PSR. No more packs for S950.
Just because we buy products of some brands does not make us their partners, so I’d rather stay critical.
By the way, one Russian music producer when he auditions artists, always watches them on the screen, avoiding being with them in the same room. He says that he doesn't want them to affect his judgement with their personalities. So can we consider us being more objective when dealing with a keyboard ourselves than when listening to it on YouTube? Do we judge the sound more carefully when we play than when we listen others play?
One of my friends "liked" one of my videos on a social network. It was with PSR-3000, and I had by that time videos with S950. I told her later "You liked the wrong one!". I was emotionally influenced by the upgrade.
The thing is that just couple of days ago I was thinking what a huge leap Yamaha did with Genos. Prosaically, it was mostly based on how excited other people were about it.
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#446682 - 02/16/18 03:12 PM
Re: All the Pop Styles of the Genos
[Re: Kabinopus]
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Senior Member
Registered: 12/15/99
Posts: 2028
Loc: Ventura, Ca, USA
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Well, to put it simple, YouTube losses some data but not that drastically and I’m using the same earphones to watch the video as I use with my PSR-S950. I don’t really want to argue, but it’s not really about people and their preferences, it’s about an offer which Yamaha makes and trying to reveal what’s real and what’s misleading.
Let’s just say that PSR-S950 was promoted as a keyboard which would grow with its owner because of expansion packs. How long did it last? Till the next PSR. No more packs for S950.
Just because we buy products of some brands does not make us their partners, so I’d rather stay critical.
By the way, one Russian music producer when he auditions artists, always watches them on the screen, avoiding being with them in the same room. He says that he doesn't want them to affect his judgement with their personalities. So can we consider us being more objective when dealing with a keyboard ourselves than when listening to it on YouTube? Do we judge the sound more carefully when we play than when we listen others play?
One of my friends "liked" one of my videos on a social network. It was with PSR-3000, and I had by that time videos with S950. I told her later "You liked the wrong one!". I was emotionally influenced by the upgrade.
The thing is that just couple of days ago I was thinking what a huge leap Yamaha did with Genos. Prosaically, it was mostly based on how excited other people were about it. You are absolutely correct. If I would listen to the Genos and the 970 through my high end head phones, I would never buy a Genos. However; it is a completely different ball game through a decent PA. Snice both are Yamaha, you would expect a similar sound. However, as I said: having both here in my studio side by side and listening through a decent PA system there is a marked difference. I also hear your frustration. But you are a very intelligent adult. That being said, you don't have to buy a keyboard if you are not happy with it. There are so many wonderful choices out there right now, for every taste and vallet. Even the MOTL arranges are amazing today. The do a lot more than TOTL arrangers a few years ago. With so many wonderful choices, there really is no reason to complain. Just find what works for you and go for it. ... Good luck. Eric
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Genos, PSR-S970, TC Helicon VoiceLive3, Mackie 802-VLZ3 Mixer, 2 Bose L1 Pro16, Electro-Voice ZXA1 Subwoofer
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