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#446452 - 02/13/18 07:28 AM Re: Roland E-A7 VS Korg PA-600, CASIO MZ-X500 [Re: Dnj]
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I saw the line outs, but was surprised at the difference in highs and lows between Korg and Roland and thought it might be due to speakers. Casio was in between. I had a pa600 and preferred it here, though it needed some crispness. Roland drums/cymbals sounded harsh and tambourine like. Global eq settings , if available, would bridge the gap in either direction. Out of box setups are important as this is what catches one's ear to start with, but can be misleading if you are not aware that modifications can make significant changes.

With all of the minutiae in tweaking now available, do the big three (four..five..) still offer broader global eq settings in most, or any, of their models?
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#446454 - 02/13/18 07:38 AM Re: Roland E-A7 VS Korg PA-600, CASIO MZ-X500 [Re: Dnj]
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Ootb never!.... Changes must always be made... These videos mean nothing to the educated listener.... That is all.

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#446463 - 02/13/18 08:40 AM Re: Roland E-A7 VS Korg PA-600, CASIO MZ-X500 [Re: Dnj]
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Korg sounds grown-up enough to me, but it's just too obvious that accompaniment doesn't work smooth enough... Roland's accompaniment sounds a bit mechanically to me... It's like playing styles on a keyboard which were designed for another one. Well, a guitar voice is ... misunderstanding.

Casio, sadly, does not really changes the common prejudices against it. It's not a bad keyboard to start with, and I'd be happy to have one as a gift. It sounds decent enough even to perform in public or on stage.

But it's hard to ignore that Yamaha's keyboards do indeed sound grown-up as well, with no problem with accompaniment and do not cost that much higher than Casio's do, so I feel like I'm forced to appear like a closed-minded person who's being groundlessly favourable towards Yamaha's products, yet I'm trying really hard to see some alternatives. Not successfully so far...

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#446473 - 02/13/18 09:36 AM Re: Roland E-A7 VS Korg PA-600, CASIO MZ-X500 [Re: Kabinopus]
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Originally Posted By Kabinopus
Korg sounds grown-up enough to me, but it's just too obvious that accompaniment doesn't work smooth enough...


For that reason I wanted somthing different, Roland or Yamaha. As I had Roland before (E60) I guess made sense to try Yammy. smile
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#446496 - 02/13/18 03:24 PM Re: Roland E-A7 VS Korg PA-600, CASIO MZ-X500 [Re: adimatis]
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Too bad the Yamaha S770 was missing from this comparison.



PSR-S770 vs. Korg Pa700:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ytkww5faiU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSlBk7ZMs7c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnduuDIIe4A


PSR-S750 vs. Korg Pa600:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTQfpcBm2wY


PSR-S770 vs. Korg Pa600:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mq5bmNpVkQ


There are many more comparisons on YouTube, of course. These are just to get you started. smile
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#446497 - 02/13/18 03:27 PM Re: Roland E-A7 VS Korg PA-600, CASIO MZ-X500 [Re: Dnj]
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The above post was intended for Adimatis. Somehow, I goofed up with the reply. smile
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#446498 - 02/13/18 04:10 PM Re: Roland E-A7 VS Korg PA-600, CASIO MZ-X500 [Re: sparky589]
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Originally Posted By sparky589
I saw the line outs, but was surprised at the difference in highs and lows between Korg and Roland and thought it might be due to speakers. Casio was in between. I had a pa600 and preferred it here, though it needed some crispness. Roland drums/cymbals sounded harsh and tambourine like. Global eq settings , if available, would bridge the gap in either direction. Out of box setups are important as this is what catches one's ear to start with, but can be misleading if you are not aware that modifications can make significant changes.

With all of the minutiae in tweaking now available, do the big three (four..five..) still offer broader global eq settings in most, or any, of their models?


Regarding piano, the newer Roland pianos often sound too bright for a simple reason: the fortissimo layer is activated too easily when playing the lightweight keybeds. That struck me in these examples as well as in some FA-06 demos. It should be adapted by editing the layer limits (or in case of the FA-06, the Supernatural settings) or changing the key response.

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#446504 - 02/13/18 09:11 PM Re: Roland E-A7 VS Korg PA-600, CASIO MZ-X500 [Re: Dnj]
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Gotta go with the 770.
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#446506 - 02/13/18 10:20 PM Re: Roland E-A7 VS Korg PA-600, CASIO MZ-X500 [Re: Dnj]
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Thanks Mike! smile It's a matter of the past, for me. I've got the S770. Great little keyboard!
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#446519 - 02/14/18 06:13 AM Re: Roland E-A7 VS Korg PA-600, CASIO MZ-X500 [Re: adimatis]
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Originally Posted By adimatis
Thanks Mike! smile It's a matter of the past, for me. I've got the S770. Great little keyboard!



You're welcome! smile Yes, the PSR-S770 does sound very good, indeed.
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