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#443791 - 01/02/18 01:14 PM Re: 1st SD9 broken promise! [Re: Henni]
Henni Offline
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Registered: 12/01/08
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Loc: South Africa
I did not say that. Let me put this in a way that you can understand.

I am a normal individual. Yet I am able to convert most (99%) of the SD9 styles to play on my Audya, minus the missing loops off course.

Ketron, being the creator of the software, has no excuse whatsoever for not being able to convert whatever is on the Audya to the SD9. If something is at a different address or missing, simply point it to the correct address or closest fit.

As for 3rd party styles, it is something minor causing a major issue. If Ketron bothers to investigate this, they will within 5 minutes find a common error in all non Ketron converted 3rd party styles. It would take them no more than a single afternoon to write code that would fix this and then make this simple software available to all users.

Fact is, they could simply not be bothered. Pure & simple. Their support stinks. Their attitude stinks. All of this whist their products shine.

I need not say more.
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#443796 - 01/02/18 01:36 PM Re: 1st SD9 broken promise! [Re: Henni]
Torch Offline
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Registered: 12/17/12
Posts: 424
Last night, I was playing the Ketron SD4(sound module not the arranger module) and I was kind of surprised that it sounded bad through my headphone! I've always liked Ketron sounds. Then I played some VST instruments through the same headphone. Very rich and full sounds. I think my ears are spoiled by some quality VST sounds.

Anyway, I can't play the SD4 from vArrnager through the SD4 USB port. The SD4 will freeze up. It is a known bug that Ketron has not fixed. I was going to buy the Ketron SD1000, but I found out that it can not be powered by the USB port. A faulty part in it. No more Ketron for me unless Ketron changes their business practice. From what I hear the SD40 still seems to have issues. I decided to give up on the SD40.
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#443804 - 01/02/18 02:22 PM Re: 1st SD9 broken promise! [Re: Henni]
hammer Offline
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Registered: 01/27/08
Posts: 2069
Loc: Texas
Henni,
I misunderstood your post. I thought you were referring to the Ketron Legacy styles. Yes, I agree - the Audya styles should be useable on the SD9.

I am aware of the problems Ketron has with support. I had a SD2 module I used with vArranger. It went south after I installed the firmware update provided by Ketron. After months of waiting and making phone calls to the dealer which never got returned I just gave up. Finally, AJ, who read my post on the forum just sent one to me.

I am just very glad we have AJ here in the USA to help out and that my SD7s have been very reliable.

Deane

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#443809 - 01/02/18 03:07 PM Re: 1st SD9 broken promise! [Re: Torch]
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Loc: New Jersey
What did AJ say about this so called problem?
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#443818 - 01/02/18 05:23 PM Re: 1st SD9 broken promise! [Re: Henni]
Ketron_AJ Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 2974
Loc: Middletown, DE
Henni,

Please advise those you know who have tried using the style converter on the SD9 Pro and experienced abnormalities with this and any other functions .... if they bought their SD9 Pro with OS 1.0.0, they MUST first install OS 1.0.1 (as is clearly mentioned on our website) BEFORE installing OS 1.0.2. My guess is they possibly had OS 1.0.0 in their units, skipped updating with OS 1.0.1 (which has crucial updates not repeated in OS 1.0.2) and updated directly to OS 1.0.2 (which has updates not found in OS 1.0.1 either).

Also I'll state this again. The SD-series in general is NOT the AUDYA series and is not the flagship series (else it would have been in our brochures as we've usually done e.g X1, SD1, AUDYA). The SD9 Pro is also built on a totally newer platform than the AUDYA and so compatibility could sometimes be problematic. If you do convert a style from AUDYA to SD9 Pro, do not forget to also bring on board the Audio resources and name them appropriately ..... in AUDYA, styles are named xxx@120.wav, in the SD9 Pro, you need to create a folder with the style name and BPM (e.g. POP 112), then in this folder, put in all 18 or 22 (for styles with 8 variation parts) audio files associated with the style (ARR A.wav, ARR B.wav ...etc) ).

Hope this clarifies this.

Thanks,
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#443828 - 01/02/18 09:12 PM Re: 1st SD9 broken promise! [Re: Henni]
Henni Offline
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Registered: 12/01/08
Posts: 2725
Loc: South Africa
Originally Posted By SD9 User
At this time a answer from ketron germany . Do you have the Audya Audio Drums and Audya Guitars in the Style? At this Time are Styles with Audya Drums and Guitars not possible at Sd9. At the next Time Sandro from ketron Italy contact  with you takes up.
Your Style are great and perfect. The Problems must be solve. i need your styles, all 3000 ;-)"


AJ,

Well, if the SD9 is NOT the Audya replacement, then I perfectly understand the issue. Up to now I have been informed by various non official sources that it WAS...

I have no further feud. I'll wait patiently for the next generation Audya as I will move heaven & earth to get one.

Thank you for your feedback.

Henni
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#443831 - 01/02/18 09:29 PM Re: 1st SD9 broken promise! [Re: Henni]
Henni Offline
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Registered: 12/01/08
Posts: 2725
Loc: South Africa
For any wanting to use my styles on their SD9,

Please note that the SD9 will NOT convert Audya styles using either audio drums or audio guitars - I did not use audio drums, but I DID add audio guitars on some styles.

In future, I'll convert all required styles NOT to use this for SD9 users. Please state CLEARLY that you want the styles for the SD9 when you contact me for these.

Cheers,

Henni
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#443832 - 01/02/18 09:50 PM Re: 1st SD9 broken promise! [Re: Henni]
Ketron_AJ Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
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Loc: Middletown, DE
Originally Posted By Henni
Originally Posted By SD9 User
At this time a answer from ketron germany . Do you have the Audya Audio Drums and Audya Guitars in the Style? At this Time are Styles with Audya Drums and Guitars not possible at Sd9. At the next Time Sandro from ketron Italy contact  with you takes up.
Your Style are great and perfect. The Problems must be solve. i need your styles, all 3000 ;-)"


AJ,

Well, if the SD9 is NOT the Audya replacement, then I perfectly understand the issue. Up to now I have been informed by various non official sources that it WAS...

I have no further feud. I'll wait patiently for the next generation Audya as I will move heaven & earth to get one.

Thank you for your feedback.

Henni


Henni

I now understand. The SD9 Pro is the professional version of the SD series and in a unique class of it's own. That's like BMW just releasing the X1. It's newer and technologically more advanced than their X5 and X3 in some ways, but built for a "different" kind of customer. It doesn't however replace their X5?

Ketron's SD9 Pro is for those who want a professional product without all the in depth "editors and menus" usually associated with one ...one that sounds professional out of the box, a product you can purchase at 3pm and be gigging with at 6pm that same day.

Thanks,
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Design Engineer & Product Specialist.
www.KetronAmerica.com

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#443836 - 01/02/18 10:01 PM Re: 1st SD9 broken promise! [Re: Henni]
Henni Offline
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Registered: 12/01/08
Posts: 2725
Loc: South Africa
Thank you AJ,

I have corrected this misunderstanding everywhere required. I now have a dream to look forward to and that will be the new Audya. And if it tops the SD9, it will indeed be something special.

Henni
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#443839 - 01/02/18 10:26 PM Re: 1st SD9 broken promise! [Re: Henni]
Ketron_AJ Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 2974
Loc: Middletown, DE
Originally Posted By Henni
Thank you AJ,

I have corrected this misunderstanding everywhere required. I now have a dream to look forward to and that will be the new Audya. And if it tops the SD9, it will indeed be something

Henni


Following the music trend (as other manufacturers are doing), that dream may take a very very long time to materialize....if it does!
Most companies are scaling back on their high end gear ....and there are many good reasons to support this decision.....

Looking at all the new arrangers released in the past 6 months, which company has really released "something new" that will truly enhance your performance and entertainment?

You decide....


Edited by Ketron_AJ (01/03/18 12:14 AM)

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