The screen on the S970 is at best fair. And because I am trying to improve all my equipment; I am working on using a monitor for viewing the S970 screen.
I bought a HP 22” monitor and mounted it above the keyboard. Working with setting up the keyboard is much easier now.
I have spent many years using my laptop for my music. Styles, lyrics, play lists, and lots of other things related to music. I am now using an IPad for all my music. It is a fair substitute when compared to what is in my laptop.

The good news is that I can connect the monitor to my laptop and see everything I have worked on. I now have all my songs; lyrics and notes on a 22’ screen. NICE easy to read. The laptop can be placed away from the keyboard.

Sharing, John C.

thats the beauty of a tilt up display that Yamaha left out of s970 and genos....why why why???


Korg got it right

I's guess the 22 inch size of the monitor makes it more desirable than a tilt up display. The 970 screen is very readable at home.
regards

Both the S-950 and S-970 are very readable in most conditions. The only time they would not be is when there is a florescent light directly overhead, which can be the case in some jobs where the player failed to pay attention to the lighting situation. I even found the S-950 quite readable outdoors when I was in the shade, which was a huge improvement over the older Tyros series and early PSR models. Yamaha listened and changed it's displays to super twist HD technology, which was requested by players several years ago.

Good luck,

Gary

Gary try sitting very low,....it's a real strain at that level plus the glare makes it horrible,....just add a tilt display problem fixed..
Korg has addressed this with ease, .....why they took it off genos is another mystery after tyros had it,...people have already told em the genos display glare is a problem, its simple physics??

Donny, as you very well know, I never sat very low - I wanted the audience to see more of my beautiful body and smiling face. Unfortunately, those 2 attributes have went to Hell in a handbasket. Gettin old ain't fer wimps and sissies.

Gary

Please keep in mind that the size of the monitor is not important when you are a home player. A 22” monitor is beautiful – I do not need to use my glasses. I saw the set up on you tube and fell in love.

When I finish setting up I will post some pictures.

John C.

PS, I do have problems in my neck --- It is probably from bending my head down when tuning pianos.

Hey guys...this is a problem for me and others that are SHORT.
I don't want to mount the kbd to read the display.
Yes...Korg fixed it....I do think the Genos display is OK from the standpoint of seeing the display...but glare could still be an issue outdoors or in with bright lighting. I'm sure Yamaha saved $4.00 buy leaving it off Genos...you wander where these decisions come from sometimes....

I've been looking at the Samsung 18.4" tablet. It has a curved attached stand on the back that was a deal breaker, until I saw the youtube video on how to remove it in minutes...then it can sit on a music rest.
Samsung galaxy 18.4" tablet

If you just want a 24-inch LED monitor to be placed on the music stand of PSR-S970, LG 24MP88HV-S 24-Inch IPS Monitor with ultra slim bezel works very well:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Wkta58fAFCxfBOnE2

LG 24MP88HV-S 24-Inch IPS Monitor scales the 800x480 output of S970 very well - when I bought it, it was $200:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BX3FCJG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

With the monitor stand removed (very easily), it sits on the music stand of the S970 very steadily without any need for velcro or ties - back view of the monitor:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/RpetAMhsF68TwYNv2

Thanks,
Paul

This is the S970 and an HP 22” Monitor. (Monitor cost $115.00

1- First picture Display from my Laptop.
2- How the Monitor s mounted. (Not on the music rack)
3- Display of Desk Top. (Laptop)
4- Music Finder.
5- Display of 124 song titles – some songs have more songs embedded.

Select a song --- The Music Finder in the S970 has a matching Generic/code for each song on the list.
Monitor connected to the S970 – used to set up the keyboard.
Monitor connected to the Laptop – used to display all music, Midi, and wave files.

A OMB does 60 to 70% of his work before he gets to the job. So I am
still 60 to 70% a OMB. (smile) It’s still fun.

John CI don't think all the pictures are here.

John,

Nice setup, you've always been an enterprising guy. I remember the first photos I ever saw that you posted, it was your setup with the Logitch z5500s , that too was a unique set up.

For me, I would struggle with having a monitor in front of me as it blocks my view of the audience.

I took it to mean he uses the monitor to set up the integration of the laptop and keyboard, and to set up the keyboard for performance without the monitor, but maybe I am wrong.

Sad to say but I am not playing out any longer. My reference to 60% is that I am doing everything a OMB does in my home; the performing part is no longer. So I am still involved with music and keyboards but for my own pleasure.

The monitor allows me to set aside my glasses. Most important I can use my laptop which has 15 years of my work. Most important is my note program, Encore. I have hundreds of songs written with music and staff. Unlike using the PDF format I can change the key in seconds -- change whatever; and the best part is when I open a song I have 3 to 4 songs of the same type on the same page.

I have 5 songs lists which edited over the years. Each list contains about 120 songs. Add the embedded song that brings it up to about 200 songs. I can pull up a list with just about any type of venue. Gary has always said that the laptop does the BEST JOB; I must agree.

Now if the good Lord helps me to feel better; the Pa4x and my IPad (small screen) are ready to go. (I have not given up yet)(smile)

John C.

For what it's worth, I seldom use a PDF. My lyrics with chord changes are all in the laptop, and also in the keyboard. I just use a word processor, and can quickly sort by name, artist, genre, date, etc. Sometimes I go all night without looking at any lyrics though.
I do have a number of PDF files, but rarely use one except to learn a song I don't know.
The disadvantages of not linking the LT and the KB include the fact that one button doesn't pull up both at the same time! It would take way too long to change everything to PDF format at this point.
At my age, I don't even buy green bananas.

I thought about integrating my songs with a midi link(as above), but don't see the time advantage to warrant the work of setting everything up. I use an ipad with UnrealBook set up in playlists, the same with the keyboard. One stroke on the keyboard and very short scrolling to my PDF. Like Don, I don't have the time to establish midi links to all my songs, but if I had started out that way, I can see 10 seconds shaved off my time. Like the old song says, if I have to run, I just don't go.

So whats the easiest, and quickest way, to convert multiple 3" binders of lyrics to pdf's, without removing pages from plastic sleeves, and scanning each one (often only possible as jpegs) to copy to a usb stick? I don't have a mac product to use the program Uncle Dave does to just snap a picture..Will fedex/kinkos or staples do it?

Sparky, at one time I had a half-dozen 3-inch binders filled to capacity. I carried them with me in one of those plastic milk crates and it weighed about 45 pounds. When I first saw Uncle Dave and Donny Pesce on stage using laptops for lyrics, the following day I went home and scanned those pages using optical character recognition (OCR) software and transferred them into Word Perfect, saved each song into the same folder under the song title and never looked back.

On top of my custom console I have an Acer 9-inch netbook PC, which holds all those lyrics. And when I need new ones, I merely download them into MS Word from the internet, save them as a .txt file and load and I'm ready to go using Wordpad in the PC. Several months ago, I posted a link to those files so others could benefit from my efforts over the years. That 9-inch netbook PC sure makes life easy for this old codger. Here's the link to my files https://app.box.com/s/8bwjhtworydlzehmynry06tut0wsfta9

Hope this helps,

Gary

This discussion is instructive to me, since I’m still creating notebooks with typed lyrics (in large fonts) and hand-written chord changes. And, yes, those books are getting heavy. Arranger screens are too small for what I need to do. Typing the lyrics is no problem. But, how do you type-in the chord changes for your own arrangements and get them to line up exactly above or below the appropriate lyrics throughout the song? For basic 3 or 4 chord songs, no chord notations are needed----such as blues tunes and some country songs. But, playing some of the standards requires (for me) seeing the chord changes. Is there a particular software program that is easy to use for creating both lyrics and chords-----that could, then, be displayed on a tablet or monitor? I don’t need or want the actual song notation-----only lyrics and chord changes.

Why not just take the (readily available for almost any song) lyric sheets (in PDF format) and use any PDF editor to put the chord notations wherever you want on the sheet. Unless it's some non-standard arrangement though, you can get most music already prepared this way.

chas

There is a couple ways of doing this. Don Mason types the chord changes on the same line as the lyrics. If I recall, he may place the chords in brackets.

I usually type mine over the word where the chord changes using MS Word, or Word Perfect, then save the file as a .txt file so I can view it in any word processor, or on the keyboard screen, which some folks prefer.

There are several sites where you can download the lyrics with the chords appearing over the word where the changes take place. Additionally, with some sites, you can transpose the chords, which is very beneficial to those that sing and the original chords are out of your vocal range. Makes life a lot easier.

I think you can view text files on most pads without special software, at least I can on my Kindle Fire HD. Not sure about the others, though. The reason I like the netbook PC is that I can make and save changes, which saves a lot of back and forth time to the Desktop PC.

Hope this helps,

Gary

The problem with putting the chords over the lyrics is that if you want to put them into an arranger as text files, they never work right. Everything is out of alignment and/or on the wrong line.
I started doing my lyrics like this:

"Your Cheatin' (1) heart, will make you [4] weep. You'll cry and [5-7] cry, and try to [1] sleep...."
Or, if you know what chord you want to always do it in, use the actual chord name instead of numbers.
This format will always show up correctly, regardless of the word processor format or arranger.

For home use I prefer a monitor with the S970 Yamaha. With the Korg Pa4x I use an IPad with the ON SONG app. The on song app is the best I have seen for lyrics and chords. I have more than one song on a page and it scrolls down automatically. Swipe of my finger and I am on the next page with another group of related songs.

You do not have to type all your own songs there are plenty of people who have songs in word pad format that will share. On song allows you to edit everything. Change the size of the font for lyrics and the chords. Add color to either. On song can also handle songs in PDF format.

John C.
The photo: A Pa4x with a 9.7” IPad.