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#44017 - 12/30/03 10:03 AM about Technics kn2600
Veltsu Offline
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I ordered one of these, because there is amazing deal (€635) at http://www.thomann.de

This is my first keyboard (and 1st message here) and I could use all help I can get with this one, so please mail your tricks and tips about this kn2600 to discussion forum. There have been discussion already about this one, so I can tell that there is some prof-users around...

I also could use info about connecting this with other gear, such as midi-controller (I have Behringer fcb-1010), other midi-connection devices (I have Vamp2) and pc.
Thanks a lot in advance!

Nice forum you have here by the way...

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#44018 - 12/30/03 10:10 AM Re: about Technics kn2600
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Veltsu,
Welcome to our newest member in Finland?
I am sure your new keyboard will bring you lots of happiness.
Yes there is all the help you will ever need here in this forum from our experts.
Just ask specific questions and then you will get specific answers. We will help you with your problems, and soon you will be helping newer members
Best to you,
Happy New Year


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#44019 - 12/30/03 10:30 AM Re: about Technics kn2600
Veltsu Offline
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and I thought that my kn2600 deal was marvellous...

ok, it still is..

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#44020 - 12/30/03 10:32 AM Re: about Technics kn2600
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Just for the info, if anyone else is looking for a cheap KN2600, there is one here for £299.00 (that's 425 Euros)

It's not something I'm after, but saw it while shopping for PRO gear. KN2600 @ £299.00


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#44021 - 12/30/03 10:34 AM Re: about Technics kn2600
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Hello Veltsu, it is still a good deal, and a nice keyboard for the price, hope you have lots of pleasure from it - it won't have cost you: Arm + leg = broke if you don't

Tony
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#44022 - 12/30/03 10:39 AM Re: about Technics kn2600
Veltsu Offline
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well, tell you the truth about help-topics: I could start with asking about internet-freebies for this kn2600.

I`m aware that theres this k7000-page with lots of downloadable styles. I have already collected kn2600 styles from there. Could I use some other than 2600-styles too?

Is there usable (and free) pc-soft somewhere
that I could use? I have a laptop, so with usb-connections (included to kn2600) I could do many things.

Thanks again!

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#44023 - 12/30/03 02:35 PM Re: about Technics kn2600
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Veltsu,
what's difference between kn2600 EU at 600 €, and standard kn2600 at 1200 €??

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#44024 - 12/30/03 02:51 PM Re: about Technics kn2600
Veltsu Offline
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if you mean the Thomann-deal, to me there`s no difference other than the fact that you get manual in english or in deutsch. Which one - i don`t know...

Or "as they say", its only for EU-countries, but that don`t make sence to me

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#44025 - 12/31/03 10:31 AM Re: about Technics kn2600
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but, it is incredible.
The same keyboard may cost 600€ or 1200€??? The only difference is manual language?
I can't feel.
So, which is going to buy 1200€ version???

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#44026 - 01/01/04 11:13 AM Re: about Technics kn2600
Veltsu Offline
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Registered: 12/30/03
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Loc: Finland
If customer (must be dummie) goes for the more expensive one, It is his or hers fault. I could see no difference here between the products, but Thomann probably would let customer to know about the other price, if someone ordered the €1200 one...

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#44027 - 01/01/04 05:39 PM Re: about Technics kn2600
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Can someone convert what these prices are in American Dollars ?

Will a Technics keyboard made for Europe, work in the States, or is the electrical compatiblity an issue ?

And are there any similar good deals in the U.S. ?

Just curious
Larry
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#44028 - 01/01/04 11:44 PM Re: about Technics kn2600
Mark And Michelle Offline
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FAO Larry,

For every Euro read $1.2542 (US). You can get more details at the following link:
http://www.oanda.com/convert/classic

Mark & Michelle

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#44029 - 01/02/04 04:07 AM Re: about Technics kn2600
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Loc: Norway
Quote:
Originally posted by Bluebird:
The same keyboard may cost 600€ or 1200€??? The only difference is manual language?
I can't feel.
So, which is going to buy 1200€ version???


I don't know for sure, but I think the two different
prices have something to do with import/export and
there most probably are going to be added taxes and
VAT when keyboard being collected at the local postoffice??

As far as I can see, all other kb's are priced "as usual"...
even if I can see most prices are higher than I could see at
my dealers store.
GJ

[This message has been edited by Gunnar Jonny (edited 01-02-2004).]
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#44030 - 01/02/04 09:13 AM Re: about Technics kn2600
lahawk Offline
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Mark and Michell,

Thanks for the currency converter link

After converting Jupiter5's Euro price, it is about $533 US Dollars.

No way any dealer in the States is selling a KN2600 for that price. I would say the price is double that..at least $1000.

Larry Hawk
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#44031 - 01/02/04 11:35 AM Re: about Technics kn2600
Johnnie.c Offline
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Registered: 08/12/01
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Loc: England
Quote:
Originally posted by lahawk:
Mark and Michell,

Thanks for the currency converter link

After converting Jupiter5's Euro price, it is about $533 US Dollars.

No way any dealer in the States is selling a KN2600 for that price. I would say the price is double that..at least $1000.

Larry Hawk

Why would Technics allow their latest keyboard the KN2600 which boxed was £1000 to be sold in several outlets for £299
1. Can't they sell them
2. Are they not any good
3. Also some EWO expansion boards at £79
4. Are they dumping all their stock
5. WHY
6. Think about it

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#44032 - 01/02/04 04:23 PM Re: about Technics kn2600
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Technics Doom Day Johnnie,

You seem to be convinced that the Technics Keyboards are fading away like the Technics Organs. I hope you are wrong as I have owned many organs and thougth that Technics was one of the best. I have never owned a keyboard other than Technics 6/7, but I look forward to 8,9 ?

Selling price of keyboards in my opinion does not indicate dealers are unloading. Where I am located in Florida, USA, the price of the KN7000 ranges from $5995 to $2800. The difference in price is how badly the dealer wants to scalp the consumer.

Happy New Year Johnnie, hope to see you with a new 8000 soon.

Fran in Florida

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#44033 - 01/06/04 12:10 PM Re: about Technics kn2600
Mysteryman Offline
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Registered: 01/06/04
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Loc: Scotland
I just purchased a KN2600 for £299 (426 Euro, $540 US dollars) from a UK site which I am pleased about. Only had the keyboard 2 days and getting the hang of it.

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#44034 - 01/06/04 08:05 PM Re: about Technics kn2600
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Mysteryman:Could you supply us with more information about the place you purchased your KN2600 for $540. Somehting just does not sound right. At a price $540, I need to have one. Hmmmm!!

John C.


[B]I just purchased a KN2600 for £299 (426 Euro, $540 US dollars) from a UK site

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#44035 - 01/07/04 01:05 AM Re: about Technics kn2600
Chuck Piper Offline
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Registered: 01/17/02
Posts: 403
Loc: United Kingdom
Hi John C,

I provided a list of UK dealers a while back. Read my post in this thread. Click here:
http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum25/HTML/002220.html

Visit their websites to contact them. Ask if they ship to the U.S. and what the total cost to you would be. Keyboards are decidedly cheaper here in the U.K. You might get the deal you are searching for.

Chuck

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#44036 - 01/07/04 07:45 AM Re: about Technics kn2600
Mysteryman Offline
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Registered: 01/06/04
Posts: 7
Loc: Scotland
Here you go.........Turnkey a major music retailer and distributor are selling the keyboard for as mentioned above. When I seen the price I thought it was a printing error but apparently not.

I ordered it via the web with no problems and got it next working day. I am taken aback by the quality of the sounds considering I was a Korg Karma, 01/W, M1 owner to name a few.

The site is http://www.turnkey.uk.com/tkweb/index.jsp


They have the KN2600 advertised on the main page.

Thanks

PS they also do international deliveries aswell

[This message has been edited by Mysteryman (edited 01-07-2004).]

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#44037 - 01/07/04 08:57 AM Re: about Technics kn2600
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Loc: San Jose, California
What is the imput voltage and cycles.
US needs 115 volts @ 60 cycles
Is it dual voltage?
Bebop
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#44038 - 01/07/04 10:58 AM Re: about Technics kn2600
Mysteryman Offline
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Registered: 01/06/04
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Loc: Scotland
Going by the manual for UK voltage it says AC120/220/230-240V 50/60 HZ

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#44039 - 01/07/04 01:54 PM Re: about Technics kn2600
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Amazing, a discount £700 for a KN2600 ??
What's going on? Either the shop are going
to close, or they're crazy about getting the
stuff out of the shop.
Also some other equipment are really good
bargains.
The big question, what about taxes when import
to other countries?
GJ
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#44040 - 01/07/04 02:33 PM Re: about Technics kn2600
Johnnie.c Offline
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Registered: 08/12/01
Posts: 562
Loc: England
Quote:
Originally posted by Gunnar Jonny:
Amazing, a discount £700 for a KN2600 ??
What's going on? Either the shop are going
to close, or they're crazy about getting the
stuff out of the shop.
Also some other equipment are really good
bargains.
The big question, what about taxes when import
to other countries?
GJ

Look for an important announcement from Panasonic in the next couple of weeks or so.
Not necessarily the demise of Technics but maybe something big.
Turnkey have had the KN2600 for £299 for about a month now.
Turnkey would not be able to do this without the consent of Panasonic.Ring around and you will find out that the dealers cannot even buy them wholesale for £299
I have said this before why would any manufacturer reduce a newly released keyboard by discounting it by nearly three quarters.
Has anybody tried to buy a new KN7000 in the last month or has anybody enquired as to the availability of the 7000 if so what lead times are being given

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#44041 - 01/09/04 07:01 AM Re: about Technics kn2600
Mysteryman Offline
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Registered: 01/06/04
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Loc: Scotland
Possibly Turnkey have had problems shifting their stock and have decided to sell them off at cost price to make way for newer stock. Bearing in mind Turnkey are also distributors they will possibly sell the stock off to music retailers so expect to see the price drop from these retailers

Some retailers are still selling the KN2600 for around £650-£750 at present. I am happy to say I like this keyboard with so many features as this is my first arranger keyboard

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#44042 - 01/09/04 10:23 AM Re: about Technics kn2600
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Quote:
Originally posted by Mysteryman:
Possibly Turnkey have had problems shifting their stock and have decided to sell them off at cost price to make way for newer stock. Bearing in mind Turnkey are also distributors they will possibly sell the stock off to music retailers so expect to see the price drop from these retailers

Some retailers are still selling the KN2600 for around £650-£750 at present. I am happy to say I like this keyboard with so many features as this is my first arranger keyboard

Your surmise that Turnkey have excessive unsold 2600 stock does not add up because had they had them for a while at wholesale they would have cost them somewhere in the region of £600 per unit so to sell old stock at £299 retail including VAT would be like committing hari kari.
The only way Turnkey are selling them so cheap is because Turnkey must have done a deal with Panasonic
which begs the question WHY

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#44043 - 01/09/04 12:41 PM Re: about Technics kn2600
Mysteryman Offline
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Registered: 01/06/04
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Loc: Scotland
Quote:
Originally posted by Johnnie.c:
Quote:
Originally posted by Mysteryman:
[b]Possibly Turnkey have had problems shifting their stock and have decided to sell them off at cost price to make way for newer stock. Bearing in mind Turnkey are also distributors they will possibly sell the stock off to music retailers so expect to see the price drop from these retailers

Some retailers are still selling the KN2600 for around £650-£750 at present. I am happy to say I like this keyboard with so many features as this is my first arranger keyboard

Your surmise that Turnkey have excessive unsold 2600 stock does not add up because had they had them for a while at wholesale they would have cost them somewhere in the region of £600 per unit so to sell old stock at £299 retail including VAT would be like committing hari kari.
The only way Turnkey are selling them so cheap is because Turnkey must have done a deal with Panasonic
which begs the question WHY

[/B]


You assume they bought them for around £600 per unit........well looking at their back catalogues which I have, they were selling them for £595 and then dropped to £499...so it is possible they bought them for £299 cost price based on volume buying. They are distributors remember which their cost prices are cheaper than the retailers cost price. They are either selling them at a financial loss or break even. As I have been involved with distribution / trade sales in the past most retailers etc when selling stock to get rid of it sell at cost price initally then drop the price at a loss to make way for new stock.

We can only wait until Panasonic possibly tell us about future plans if any.

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#44044 - 01/09/04 01:28 PM Re: about Technics kn2600
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Registered: 06/28/01
Posts: 2781
Loc: Lehigh Valley, Pa.
Maybe Turnkey is getting out of the Technics Buisness, and simply wants to turn over their stock





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#44045 - 01/10/04 05:27 AM Re: about Technics kn2600
Veltsu Offline
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Registered: 12/30/03
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Loc: Finland
Somebody asked earlier about Thomann`s kn2600 deal. Its really €635 and theres nothing more to it, no taxes no nothing. The manual is in english thou. I`ve had mine for few days and I`m very pleased with it!

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#44046 - 01/10/04 10:53 AM Re: about Technics kn2600
Johnnie.c Offline
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Posts: 562
Loc: England
Quote:
Originally posted by Mysteryman:
You assume they bought them for around £600 per unit........well looking at their back catalogues which I have, they were selling them for £595 and then dropped to £499...so it is possible they bought them for £299 cost price based on volume buying. They are distributors remember which their cost prices are cheaper than the retailers cost price. They are either selling them at a financial loss or break even. As I have been involved with distribution / trade sales in the past most retailers etc when selling stock to get rid of it sell at cost price initally then drop the price at a loss to make way for new stock.

We can only wait until Panasonic possibly tell us about future plans if any.

I assume nothing.
The unit cost for the KN2600 wholesale is £595.

A little time ago dealers were made an offer by Technics that if they ordered £20,000 worth of KN2600 they would receive a discount of £150 per unit

Turnkey are a large hardware retailer of long standing and are not distributors to the retail trade Technics UK are the only and exclusive distributors in the UK

What new stock do you assume they are making way for
the KN2600 is a fairly new and latest product from Panasonic/Technics

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#44047 - 01/10/04 12:21 PM Re: about Technics kn2600
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