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#438612 - 10/06/17 08:43 AM Re: Banned from psr tutorial [Re: screenshot]
mirza Offline
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Originally Posted By screenshot
It’s like little kids... well yes you're right...but not from bachus point of view..im still in your corner kidda



I didn’t even mean it was Bachus. He knows his gear.
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#438615 - 10/06/17 08:51 AM Re: Banned from psr tutorial [Re: Bachus]
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 12656
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
Lets be clear on this matter. First and foremost, the PSR Tutorial site has been around for many, many years, during which time the members have provided support for ALL keyboard players - not just Yamaha. Thousands upon thousands of members have been assisted by a significant number of other members who have a very high level of technical expertise.

If someone has a problem with their keyboard, most of the time one of the moderators, or forum members, will usually come up with a good solution or fix for that particular problem. For example, I have an SM Card that has circumnavigated the globe a half dozen times, one that had the updates for the PSR-3000 and the only way to install them on the keyboard was using a SM card with the downloaded data. Not everyone had that capability, therefore, I mailed it to them with the premise they would mail it back to me.

When someone's keyboard began to do weird things, for the most part we came up with corrective solutions that very same day, and sometimes, just a few minutes later. If the problem was hardware related, we often provided the forum member with in depth instructions how to correct that problem, and failing this, we usually recommended an authorized service center that was near to where they lived.

Several of the moderators have provided incredible software, PC based programs for Yamaha arranger keyboards. And, they have done this at no cost to the members. There are very few forums that provides this kind of service. Over the years, Joe Waters has updated the forum to accommodate each, new Yamaha arranger keyboard, often a few months before the keyboard became available.

Similar to many music related forums, the PSR Tutorial provides an area for members to upload their songs and videos related to the songs. This is one of the more popular areas of the forum, second only to the styles section where members request suggestions for a style to use for a specific song, and others frequently contribute a third party style for those songs. The activity on the styles section is usually to the tune of a dozen or more requests daily that are fulfilled.

The site moderators are chosen by Joe Waters. Joe selects them on the basis of their technical expertise and ability to provide assistance to forum members in need. I am proud to say that I was among the first moderators selected, along with Michael Bedesem, who has created many, many software solution programs for Yamaha arranger keyboards. As moderators, we do not just sit around waiting to ban someone or delete their posts. For the most part, the only posts that are deleted are those that come from someone hacking into the forum to sell their products, which for a while, included several porn sites. Upon seeing those posts, they were immediately deleted and that poster was permanently banned, for obvious reasons.

On rare occasions, someone joins the forum that decides to denigrate some members because he or she feels they are superior to the membership for one reason or another, mostly because of their musical training. While they may be classically trained, or not, does not give them the right to berate another forum member. When this happens, repeatedly, then one of the forum moderators usually steps in and sends a PM to the offender. If he or she persists in this practice, then the moderators usually have an online conference to determine the next step in alleviating the problem or situation. This was the case with Allen Russell and Babe. And, before either of them were banned, they were repeatedly warned, and each of the moderators read each and every offending post before that action was taken. This was not the case with Bachus, therefore, I cannot comment on the reasoning behind his ban.

As to commenting about other arranger keyboards on the PSR Tutorial forum, it is permitted and no one objects to constructive criticism or comments pertaining to other arranger keyboards. However, like most moderators, I object to someone starting a pissing contest, a mine is better than yours post or thread of this nature. IMO, it serves no useful purpose and tends to inflame some individuals to where they post things they would never say to someone in person. I have threatened to delete some threads of this nature, but I never had - just the threat usually quelled the problem and the thread died on it's own. I have seen a number of pissing contests started on this forum, and some of those threads have become quite heated arguments. IMO, they have never served a useful purpose.

I am happy that Joe Waters renewed Bachus's membership in the forum, and I sincerely hope that he becomes an active member and contributes his expertise and knowledge base with Yamaha arranger keyboards to members in need of his assistance. The PSR Tutorial Arranger Keyboard Forum is, and continues to be, among the top arranger keyboard forums dedicated to Yamaha users and owners.

All the best,

Gary cool
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#438619 - 10/06/17 09:50 AM Re: Banned from psr tutorial [Re: travlin'easy]
Bachus Offline
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Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 5133
Garry, i agree with you that the psr tutorial forums are the next best forum just behind synthzone...

I have allways enjoyed the sharing nature of the Yamaha crowd..
The helpfull hands when someone is in need

And after going all korg allmost i year ago
I kept visiting the forums, as i enjoyed them very much
There are so many womderfull helpfull people there

And even tough i will probably not spend the €2600 required to trade in mu pa4x for the Genos, i will continue visiting the psr tutorial forums, just because they are a great place..


I just hope my lost posts can be recovered
And i would like a personal mail from Joe, about what happened
Maybe i can learn from it to prevent something like this in the future..
What i domt want or need is the name of the modulator that did the ban.
I dont see any reason for me to know... thats something internal for,psr tutorial


Someone send me a mail with the topic created after my ban..
And i am actually surprised how people that often disagreed with me, have me in such high regards... seems the majorrity of the community discussing the Genos supports me, amd that is something to cherish.

So no hard feelings from my side..
It happens and its getting solved..
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#438622 - 10/06/17 09:55 AM Re: Banned from psr tutorial [Re: Bachus]
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
I will contact Joe this afternoon to get you the information.

Gary cool
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#438627 - 10/06/17 10:29 AM Re: Banned from psr tutorial [Re: Bachus]
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 12656
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
Bachus, you may have to reregister in order to get back on the forum. Be sure to register under the same name, password, etc... and hopefully, you will not encounter any problems. Now, this may bring back your previous posts, but this depends on how they were lost in the first place. If they were deleted by the moderator that banned you, they may not be able to be recovered. Not sure at this point. If you have a problem, please contact Joe Waters via email and he will be more than happy to assist you in any way he can.

Good luck,

Gary cool
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#438634 - 10/06/17 11:57 AM Re: Banned from psr tutorial [Re: Bachus]
Bernie9 Offline
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Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 3920
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
I am sure you saw that Joe Waters has taken back sole authority to ban someone.
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#438640 - 10/06/17 01:07 PM Re: Banned from psr tutorial [Re: Bachus]
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 12656
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
Bernie, the only members I have banned in nearly 20 years have been those that hacked the forum to sell their wares or porn purveyors. Never had to ban anyone for doing something wrong in all those years. That said, I'm happy that Joe has once again taken on the burden of having to ban someone - it's a very difficult decision and should never be taken lightly. I know Nigel has had to do this a few times, and I'm sure he agrees with me on this subject.

Gary cool
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#438643 - 10/06/17 01:49 PM Re: Banned from psr tutorial [Re: Bachus]
screenshot Offline
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Registered: 02/05/16
Posts: 12
just seen mirza's post...i'm a bit red faced...and i totally misunderstood you're meaning ..my bad....please accept my apologies....

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#438645 - 10/06/17 01:55 PM Re: Banned from psr tutorial [Re: Bachus]
Bernie9 Offline
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Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 3920
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
Gary
Of coarse you are right, and I am sure Joe feels the same way. That is why he revoked authority by other moderators to ban anyone. He has reclaimed that right for himself only
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#438676 - 10/06/17 09:32 PM Re: Banned from psr tutorial [Re: travlin'easy]
Bachus Offline
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Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 5133
Originally Posted By travlin'easy
Bachus, you may have to reregister in order to get back on the forum. Be sure to register under the same name, password, etc... and hopefully, you will not encounter any problems. Now, this may bring back your previous posts, but this depends on how they were lost in the first place. If they were deleted by the moderator that banned you, they may not be able to be recovered. Not sure at this point. If you have a problem, please contact Joe Waters via email and he will be more than happy to assist you in any way he can.

Good luck,

Gary cool


Thanks Gary, for your efforts.

I am back on Psr tutorial
Had to recreate the account
Sadly it seems that all the old posts are gone
Some things you just cant change back
Its a pitty, but we have to live with that

I want to thank everyone for the support here in this topic and over at psr tutorial
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