OK, let me share some simple wisdom!

When someone rolls a ball to you the game is over of you don’t roll the ball back. Amen!

If you touch the ball – comment in any fashion – or roll the ball back, the game continues.

Sorry but this is the way my mind works.
John C.

I agree. Did someone not return your ball?

I agree Bruno...

I throw lots of balls, seems less and less people are even interested in the game...

Some days, being a spectator is just as much fun as being a player.

Gary

You have to throw the right ball to get a response, and as times have changed, the balls also need to change.
There is also the problem of forum overload, (Look back at the earlier days of SZ and you will find the manufacture specific threads were as busy as the General thread) which has exploded in recent years, thus the jam gets spread super thin.
I put a stop on joining new forums some time ago, as otherwise it would just have got ridicules.
While diversifying into new is good, diversifying the same (Which a lot of forums now do) is bad.
Happy posting
Bill

Also why doesn't more people rarely post their songs here on SZ or demo examples of what they are talking about, technics, sounds, styles, samples, or whatever,?
.....instead of mine is bigger then yours
talk is cheap sometimes when describing things,...but pictures/videos say a thousands words and we all learn from it too, .....meanwhile on forums like Psr tutorial people post their songs etc, all the time,...go figure...?

I currently am a member of four internet forums, three of which are music, one sailing. I only post music regularly on one, though I have posted several songs here in the past, and recently, the only one I ever wrote. I always look forward to constructive criticism, when it comes. That's why places such as the PSR-Tutorial and Keyboard Player - Keyboard Forum are quite popular. Here, on the Synthzone, I sincerely believe players are reluctant to post their songs, fearing the responses they may receive from a tiny number of somewhat elitist members. My only advantage in posting here is everyone knows I'm not a musician, which I have stated many, many times - I'm just a hack entertainer and proud to be in that category.

Here's one I posted this afternoon on one of the other forums: This song was actually written by Cole Porter way back in 1935, however, it was re-released by a host of artists over the next several decades until 2012. I decided to do a disco rendition of it, which was very popular in the 1970s, in contrast to the 1950s renditions done by Sinatra, Tony Bennett, etc... Here's my disco rendition of Begin The Beguine

All the best,

Gary

Gary ya did good. Enjoyed listening.

John C.

Gary great hustle style for this song thanx for sharing...

Thanks guys, for the compliments. I used a custom Yamaha style for it that I have had around for years, but wasn't sure if it would work for this song. If anyone would like a copy, just email me and I will be glad to post it.

Gary

Gary......really! As Chas pointed out 1-2 weeks ago, no one ever gets a thumbs down on this site. All I ever see is an endless parade of "clapping hands." I think if someone recorded a waiter dropping a tray of dishes, and named it something like Moonlight Waters, you'd see another set of "clapping hands" appear!

So you are saying in this case you wouldn't have posted your disapproval? Then that would mean you are part of the problem wouldn't it?

Well said! Remember we are all Lucky2BHere, thank you Nigel.

Abacus your post brought a big smile – I try to simplify by using a ball as an example and you talk about changing the ball. aaaaaaah!

But yes I do agree with some of the things you said.
John C.

posted by mistake......ignore

No Nigel, I don't consider myself part of the problem. I wouldn’t post my disapproval because I find it more practical to just stay out of giving ANY comments. You don't get in trouble that way and you don't alienate others either. I'm aware I'm not part of the "inner circle" in this group......why ostracize myself further? I'm sure you noticed that no one, not in the Synthzone, not anywhere, wants to hear criticism if it's not accolades upon accolades about how wonderful they are. That's one of the anomalies of life, isn't it?

I learned my lesson when I critiqued one of Rico's videos a while back. I said absolutely nothing hurtful. I opened up my post with praise for what I liked about the performance and then proceeded to offer suggestions on how I thought it could be improved. Never even got a "thank you" reply back from Rico for my rather lengthy list of suggestions. I admire Rico's playing ability but it seems he (and others) only want to hear the compliments, the good stuff. The ego is a delicate piece of real estate in each of us.

A good musician will sometimes put out a bad product. I’ve been there many times. What’s the big deal about telling that to someone…….“your performance of song A was not up to snuff this time around.” I can guarantee we’d have a heck of a lot more quality musicians if they could learn to humble themselves and take the bad reviews with the good ones. And maybe the byproduct of that would be that arranger sales start to improve as musicians start to improve.

In my book, there are no bad musicians. Everyone has something to offer. But the ones I respect the most are those (both amateur and professional) who are always looking to improve. Do you think people like Liberace or Victor Borge got that big by ignoring negative remarks and just languishing in a pool of false praise?

In 1964, when asked what he thought of [John] Coltrane, [Sonny] Rollins, and [Miles] Davis, Tristano answered, "All emotion, no feeling." He replied to "How do you distinguish between the two?" with: "Well, say I believe there is no real hysteria or hostility in jazz, their stuff is the expression of the ego. I want jazz to flow out of the id. Putting it another way, real jazz is what you can play before you are all screwed up; the other happens after you're screwed up."

In all fairness, anybody know what Miles or Coltrane or Rollins thought of Lennie? When you intellectualize something (as opposed to just enjoying it), you have to realize that it's just your opinion - not necessarily the gospel. Although I can't really picture Donny being an avid fan of Lennie Tristano, I DO know that we tend to rely too much on the opinions of people we admire. I seriously doubt if Lennie's opinion will do much to tarnish the image of these jazz stalwarts. Just MY opinion.

chas