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#429244 - 02/25/17 06:16 AM Mics: Headworn vs. handheld
guitpic1 Offline
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A few years back, I purchased a couple of Crown 311A head worn mics. My wife and I both used them back in the days when we did a guitar/bass combo.

My wife is now using a wireless handheld and I went to a handheld as well with our arranger.

The reason I went to a handheld is that I found that singing through my arranger, my vocal volume changes pretty dramatically when I turn on the harmony. With a handheld, I can back off the mic and get better volume control. I couldn't do that with the Crown.

Thoughts?

I think Gary used a Crown successfully with his arranger.
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#429248 - 02/25/17 06:45 AM Re: Mics: Headworn vs. handheld [Re: guitpic1]
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I use a headworn shure wh20 xlr thru my pa900 but use the compressor in mic settings
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#429249 - 02/25/17 07:00 AM Re: Mics: Headworn vs. handheld [Re: organgrinder]
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sorry use the compressor settings in mic settings and set it to lead and harmony. you vocals will always be matched according to how loud you sing. i set the threshold at 28 the ratio at 5.6 and the noise gate at 60 or less according to how much you hear your breathing thru the mic. This is just a starting point but is should help. If that crown is too hot turn the threshold down to around 18
hope this helps
Mel
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#429254 - 02/25/17 07:48 AM Re: Mics: Headworn vs. handheld [Re: guitpic1]
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You have to set up the mic setting that sets the Harmony V/S Lead ratio to about 30 percent harmony and everything will be just fine.

Gary cool
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#429310 - 02/26/17 12:20 AM Re: Mics: Headworn vs. handheld [Re: travlin'easy]
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Good info
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#429317 - 02/26/17 08:03 AM Re: Mics: Headworn vs. handheld [Re: guitpic1]
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I know that Gary, Garth, and my old Spin Class instructor (don't laugh!) all love the headset mics, but I just never could adjust to loosing my "working the mic" technique that I've become so accustomed to. The vocal dynamics are greatly changed, and unless you sing at a very steady level, you'll miss some of the dynamic changes that can only come from changing your proximity. Then, there's the whole coughing scenario ....
Just my 2 cents.
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#429323 - 02/26/17 10:53 AM Re: Mics: Headworn vs. handheld [Re: guitpic1]
travlin'easy Offline
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Instead of proximity, I use vocal/voice control, which works just fine for Garth and myself. As for the cough, got it covered with the cough button on the belt pack, or just flipping the mic down, which because of its extremely short range, makes it impossible to hear a cough if the mic is flipped down below your chin, which on takes a half second to accomplish.

All the best,

Gary cool


Edited by travlin'easy (02/26/17 10:54 AM)
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#429324 - 02/26/17 12:13 PM Re: Mics: Headworn vs. handheld [Re: guitpic1]
Dnj Offline
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handheld for me all the way always

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#429329 - 02/26/17 02:14 PM Re: Mics: Headworn vs. handheld [Re: guitpic1]
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My vocal style is too dynamic to stay put at a fixed distance. I need some serious room for certain pitches in certain songs. If I ever did "Piano Man" with a headset ... I'd clear the room!
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#429334 - 02/26/17 03:22 PM Re: Mics: Headworn vs. handheld [Re: guitpic1]
DonM Offline
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As I recall, the headset Gary uses has a built-in limiter/compressor circuitry.
At any rate, I can use a headset on the PA4X, and by setting the onboard limiter/compressor have all the dynamics I need.
I still don't like using the headset mics though. Something about old dogs and new tricks I suppose. smile
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