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#429135 - 02/22/17 01:57 PM mic cable problem ...
tony mads usa Offline
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When I work strictly as a vocalist, I find my mic cable gets really twisted during the gig ... is there any kind of cable or adapter end that would prevent this?

Also, I use an XLR to 1/4" transformer to plug my mic into the Pa900 ... Is there a mic cable with an 'in-line' transformer built in so that I don't have to have 5 or 6 inches of transformer sticking out of the KB?
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#429136 - 02/22/17 02:01 PM Re: mic cable problem ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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Who's going to be the first to say it.....'wireless' smile smile.

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#429137 - 02/22/17 02:05 PM Re: mic cable problem ... [Re: cgiles]
tony mads usa Offline
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I guess chas is ... yes, that would be the best solution, but at this stage of my 'career', spending $500 - $600 on a wireless mic doesn't seem like a wise investment ...
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#429138 - 02/22/17 02:13 PM Re: mic cable problem ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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Tony, I have a solution to your problem. I'll give you a call.

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#429144 - 02/22/17 05:15 PM Re: mic cable problem ... [Re: travlin'easy]
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Gary, thank you ... That MIGHT take care of one of the problems ...

But I am STILL looking for an 'in-line' transformer ... don't they make these things???

Of course I could use a shorter version of this, and plug the male end of the transformer into the female end of this cable and then plug it into the KB, but then that's another connection to be concerned about ... frown


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#429145 - 02/22/17 05:43 PM Re: mic cable problem ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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I also have a pa900 and i use a 90 degree adapter into the pa 900 and the transformer plugged into that. I seem to remember sam ash had a xlr to 1/4 in cable with a built in transformer a few years
ago. but i don't remember when i saw it. by the way i use the right angle 1/4" adapter so I don't damage the mic jack on the keyboard and it gives it some give if someone bumps into it.

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#429156 - 02/23/17 06:44 AM Re: mic cable problem ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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I had Sweetwater make me a 5' cable with a transformer built in. They do it in house. Before that, I used 2 short cables and put the transformer in the middle, so it could lay on the floor, and not put stress on the jack. The mic side used a standard XLR-XLR wire, then the transformer had XLR-1/4"F, so I plugged a short guitar cable into it. Wireless is a great option, if you have a mic you love, but for a stationary performer, it seems like a waste of battery usage, and more bulk to connect. Get the custom wire. Easy-Peasy.
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#429159 - 02/23/17 07:14 AM Re: mic cable problem ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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Or borrow a quality Peavey transformer cable from a friend.
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#429160 - 02/23/17 08:43 AM Re: mic cable problem ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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Pardon my ignorance, but I never heard of a transformer cable. I have been using a simple XLR to 1/4 inch adaptor if my keyboard only has a 1/4 inch jack. Am I missing something?
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#429161 - 02/23/17 08:54 AM Re: mic cable problem ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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There are cables with a built in transformer at the 1/4" end. Fran was teasing me about lending his Peavey cable to me before I had mine made!
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#429167 - 02/23/17 09:54 AM Re: mic cable problem ... [Re: Bernie9]
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Originally Posted By Bernie9
Pardon my ignorance, but I never heard of a transformer cable. I have been using a simple XLR to 1/4 inch adaptor if my keyboard only has a 1/4 inch jack. Am I missing something?

Bernie ... this is the low to high impedance adapter I am talking about: ... I am looking to eliminate that from sticking out the back of the Pa900 by having it incorporated into the mic cable somehow ... .
BTW ... no such thing as a stupid question smile


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Edited by tony mads usa (02/23/17 09:55 AM)
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#429170 - 02/23/17 11:14 AM Re: mic cable problem ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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Tony, I'll be more than happy to make you the short, right angle extension cable you need and send it up to you. Piece of cake for this old dude.

Gary cool
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#429172 - 02/23/17 11:51 AM Re: mic cable problem ... [Re: travlin'easy]
tony mads usa Offline
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Thanks, Gary, but I have one of those ...
I just want to see if I can get a mic cable with the low to high impedance transformer built in ... one less connection to worry about ...
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#429173 - 02/23/17 01:12 PM Re: mic cable problem ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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"TOTL wireless" all the way

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#429174 - 02/23/17 01:49 PM Re: mic cable problem ... [Re: tony mads usa]
Fran Carango Offline
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Transformer cable


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#429177 - 02/23/17 03:55 PM Re: mic cable problem ... [Re: Dnj]
tony mads usa Offline
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Originally Posted By Dnj
"TOTL wireless" all the way


Donny ... thanks, but, when I am doing a gig with my keyboard I use the on board vocal processor for my lead voice and harmony ... consequently, I need a mic to plug into the keyboard ...
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#429178 - 02/23/17 05:14 PM Re: mic cable problem ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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No, you don't need to plug the mic into the keyboard, Tony. You merely plug the output of the wireless mic receiver into the mic input of the keyboard, which then allows you to use the vocal harmony and all the other keyboard settings.

Now you know why I get the big bucks, wink

Gary cool


Edited by travlin'easy (02/23/17 05:14 PM)
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#429179 - 02/23/17 05:26 PM Re: mic cable problem ... [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By travlin'easy
No, you don't need to plug the mic into the keyboard, Tony. You merely plug the output of the wireless mic receiver into the mic input of the keyboard, which then allows you to use the vocal harmony and all the other keyboard settings.

Now you know why I get the big bucks, wink

Gary cool


Ditto Gary

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#429180 - 02/23/17 05:55 PM Re: mic cable problem ... [Re: Dnj]
tony mads usa Offline
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Donny and Gary: That's all well and good, guys, but I know that I am talking to two of the guys on this board who are all about quick set-up and breakdown, and setting up a wireless system is NOT going to be faster than plugging my one mic cable into the back of my keyboard ...

If I use a wireless mic, it will only be when I perform with the female vocalist, because on those gigs it is all backing tracks, no keyboard, and there are times when I might go out to the audience which the wireless would allow ...
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#429182 - 02/23/17 08:01 PM Re: mic cable problem ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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I don't think you need a transformer. I used an XLR to 1/4 inch cable with the 900, and it worked just fine.
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#429183 - 02/23/17 08:14 PM Re: mic cable problem ... [Re: DonM]
tony mads usa Offline
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Thanks, Don ... I started using the transformer because all my mic cables were xlr to xlr and the transformer was the only xlr to 1/4" adapter I had ... I'll try an xlr to 1/4" ...
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#429184 - 02/23/17 08:42 PM Re: mic cable problem ... [Re: tony mads usa]
J. Larry Offline
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My mic cable has a small, slim-line transformer built into the ¼” jack, or vice versa. Don’t recall where I got it. I think it’s a Peavey. It’s not obtrusive and works great with the Shure Beta 58 mic.

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#429185 - 02/23/17 09:23 PM Re: mic cable problem ... [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By DonM
I don't think you need a transformer. I used an XLR to 1/4 inch cable with the 900, and it worked just fine.

I disagree, Don. There is a noticeable high end loss with out the transformer. It sounds terrible to me without it.
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