#415050 - 01/22/1605:35 AMYamaha Montage... Is it for you?!?
shueymusic
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Now that there are demo videos and specs... Is the Yamaha Montage for you?
I build musical arrangements from scratch. I've used a music workstation since 1989. I love using MIDI to arrange because of... Easy tempo change, pitch change, sound change, patch changes, event edit if a simple mistake was made... And the list goes on.
Montage is not an evolution in the workstation process of music arranging. I use my DAW to work with audio... But I guess at the ripe old age of 42, I am being lead to computer sequencing.
The processing power is impressive... Everything sounds great on the Montage but I would place it in the Jupiter 80... V-Synth... Wavestation category.
Sorry, not for me unless the sequencer was on par with Motif ES/XF!
#415051 - 01/22/1605:47 AMRe: Yamaha Montage... Is it for you?!?
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abacus
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No, as I can do more with computer based software, however for live performance for a musician (Creative), then just like the synths of old (And the latest Jupiter) it will be a great tool which hopefully will rekindle innovation in sound, rather than more of the same as we have had for the last 2 generations or more..
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In short NO for MY needs on stage as a OMB......give me an Arranger KB any day,..... Montage would be better suited for studio, recording, or as a KB player in a band situation like all synths..
#415061 - 01/22/1607:17 AMRe: Yamaha Montage... Is it for you?!?
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rosetree
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I had hoped for a Montage which would allow for the use of larger sound libraries by means of ssd streaming technology, just like the Kronos - thereby narrowing the quality gap between hardware and software instruments. Additionally, I would definitely have expected that all features of the MoXF/Motif XF would have been at least maintained if not improved. But -the full functional sequencer has been reduced to a simplified recorder -the maximum free flash has been reduced from 4 GB (using Mutec flash boards) to 1.75 GB, so that large libraries cannot be used. In addition, I think 50% of the instrument are wasted in my case, as I'm absolutely not interested in the FM-X engine (unless Bert's demos manage to turn me into an electronic sound freak).
I still have to check all sound demos in detail, if the ROM sounds are spectacular, a future lightweight version (MoXF successor) might be interesting for me. However, an updated Korg Krome with Kronos features and an acceptable keybed is perhaps earlier to be expected...
#415062 - 01/22/1607:28 AMRe: Yamaha Montage... Is it for you?!?
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Bachus
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Most of the Things that the Montage can do, can also be done by my Kronos, and then some more.
Most of the Things i love about my Tyros 5 can not be done by the Montage.
I think its a great synth, i just dont have room for it in my setup.. and putting a 3rd keybed on top of my current two is also not an action...
However, i see a future for this keyboard espescially for people comming from Motif MOXF, i still think combining it with Varranger and a small midipad controller might yield great results...
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#415063 - 01/22/1607:30 AMRe: Yamaha Montage... Is it for you?!?
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Bachus
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
In short NO for MY needs on stage as a OMB......give me an Arranger KB any day,..... Montage would be better suited for studio, recording, or as a KB player in a band situation like all synths..
Really?
I think Montage is moving away from teh studio towards live performances... but not for the type of music most of us here prefer.. Its a dance music beast for sure.. and works really well in a band, as you can sync your tempo in realtime with your analogue drummer
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#415067 - 01/22/1607:44 AMRe: Yamaha Montage... Is it for you?!?
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rosetree
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Originally Posted By: Bachus
as you can sync your tempo in realtime with your analogue drummer
That function could really be a game changer... our drummer would never accept a click via headphones, but this way patterns would be usable, very helpful for pop cover songs especially if there are just singer, dummer, 1 keyboardist and 1 guitarist... I hope something like this could also be implemented as a separate device which could send the tempo to any synthesizer via midi then.
#415071 - 01/22/1608:03 AMRe: Yamaha Montage... Is it for you?!?
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ianmcnll
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I like it so far...I was an FM programmer for Yamaha in my early years as a clinician (combo division) and cut my teeth on the DX-7...ended up doing specialized work with the DX-7 MkII.
Yamaha's first FM synth (basically a preset job with up-loadable sounds on data sticks), the GS-1, was 8 operator and subsequently sounded fatter than the fully programmable 6 operator DX-7's which arrived after.
Hopefully this unique blend of AWM2 and the 8 op FM-X will inspire players and programmers alike.
But to answer the question...is the Montage for me? Nope, my trusty Tyros4 still fills all my needs admirably.