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#415089 - 01/22/16 12:23 PM Re: Yamaha Montage... Is it for you?!? [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: rosetree
I had hoped for a Montage which would allow for the use of larger sound libraries by means of ssd streaming technology, just like the Kronos - thereby narrowing the quality gap between hardware and software instruments. Additionally, I would definitely have expected that all features of the MoXF/Motif XF would have been at least maintained if not improved.
But
-the full functional sequencer has been reduced to a simplified recorder
-the maximum free flash has been reduced from 4 GB (using Mutec flash boards) to 1.75 GB, so that large libraries cannot be used.
In addition, I think 50% of the instrument are wasted in my case, as I'm absolutely not interested in the FM-X engine (unless Bert's demos manage to turn me into an electronic sound freak).

I still have to check all sound demos in detail, if the ROM sounds are spectacular, a future lightweight version (MoXF successor) might be interesting for me.
However, an updated Korg Krome with Kronos features and an acceptable keybed is perhaps earlier to be expected...




I have to agree with you, Rosetree. I too, am more interested in acoustic sounds (including orchestral), and even though the Montage sounds good so far, it seems to be more about synth-type sounds. Maybe, they just haven't shown us it's potential regarding acoutic/orchestral sounds much yet. We'll have to wait and see.

The CFX Piano sounds wonderful, and the choir with strings and pipe organ sounds good, too (which you can hear in a few demos I posted yesterday), but is this enough for me to get rid of my Motif XF? I can very easily just buy some orchestral libraries. I hope they demo the new Performances with 8 parts, because mine only has 4. This may make me lean towards getting it.

Time will tell. smile
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#415094 - 01/22/16 01:49 PM Re: Yamaha Montage... Is it for you?!? [Re: shueymusic]
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Registered: 09/30/10
Posts: 733
Loc: So California, USA
I saw it yesterday guys it cool looking and I think it is aimed at studio production guys it is a Heavy beast

solid metal frame it got a lot under the hood I walked away saying that cool but I prob would have no interest in it.

new Pianos are nice

come on Yamaha you got the tech to do a better Piano for Tyros 5 that cuts better larger sample offer it up as a add on I had several conversation yesterday about this they have told me the topic will come up in there wrasp up meeting

I am willing to pay for it make it a offering on yamahamusic soft it would be the best seller offer a Piano suite as a download they have it on the new clavinova come on now next tyros is prob 2 years away as well guys it will not be next year . so there is tim e to offer this package .
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#415108 - 01/22/16 03:48 PM Re: Yamaha Montage... Is it for you?!? [Re: musicforyourday]
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Registered: 07/18/07
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the one thing I do like is the smooth transitions when you switch voicing. I hate when they just cut off. the roland fantom G series had this as does the Kronos I believe. I wish all keyboards had smooth transitions between voice switching.. Ron

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#415131 - 01/23/16 05:33 AM Re: Yamaha Montage... Is it for you?!? [Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 03/02/06
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
Still kinda early in the game lets wait and see what developed with the Montage it's just the beginning.


Thats what The Yamaha representatives said, they will be adding more features over the comming (year) .. In contradiction with the Faq, they allready confirmed VST 3.0 support... I.e. Using the Montage as a VST inside your DAW( hopefully more daws then just cubase)

The interface layout is quite well tought out.. The 4 rows of 8 buttons to the right correspond with the possition of ellements on the touchscreen...
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#415132 - 01/23/16 05:37 AM Re: Yamaha Montage... Is it for you?!? [Re: Mikem]
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Registered: 03/02/06
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Originally Posted By: Mikem
Originally Posted By: rosetree
I had hoped for a Montage which would allow for the use of larger sound libraries by means of ssd streaming technology, just like the Kronos - thereby narrowing the quality gap between hardware and software instruments. Additionally, I would definitely have expected that all features of the MoXF/Motif XF would have been at least maintained if not improved.
But
-the full functional sequencer has been reduced to a simplified recorder
-the maximum free flash has been reduced from 4 GB (using Mutec flash boards) to 1.75 GB, so that large libraries cannot be used.
In addition, I think 50% of the instrument are wasted in my case, as I'm absolutely not interested in the FM-X engine (unless Bert's demos manage to turn me into an electronic sound freak).

I still have to check all sound demos in detail, if the ROM sounds are spectacular, a future lightweight version (MoXF successor) might be interesting for me.
However, an updated Korg Krome with Kronos features and an acceptable keybed is perhaps earlier to be expected...




I have to agree with you, Rosetree. I too, am more interested in acoustic sounds (including orchestral), and even though the Montage sounds good so far, it seems to be more about synth-type sounds. Maybe, they just haven't shown us it's potential regarding acoutic/orchestral sounds much yet. We'll have to wait and see.

The CFX Piano sounds wonderful, and the choir with strings and pipe organ sounds good, too (which you can hear in a few demos I posted yesterday), but is this enough for me to get rid of my Motif XF? I can very easily just buy some orchestral libraries. I hope they demo the new Performances with 8 parts, because mine only has 4. This may make me lean towards getting it.

Time will tell. smile


The allready confirmed Bosendorfer Grandpiano sound, that can be loaded into the memmory will occpuy over 1,5 GB.. I think that shows how much 1,75GB can do for you these days...

Thats why VST integration is becomming more and more important... It doesnt require any memmory, all Yamaha needs to do is create a tool in the montage comparable to akai VIP... With a touchscreen, everything can be added as easy as eating a pie...



Edited by Bachus (01/23/16 05:38 AM)
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