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#413922 - 01/01/16 09:24 AM
Re: 1 or 2 tips/tricks of the trade to share w/ newbie
[Re: Steve A]
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Senior Member
Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
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Playing arranger is a very personal thing,.....this kind of question is gonna confuse the heck out of you as you will get so many different replies regarding how players use their keyboards, don't get caught up in the mess of confusion,......who's right? who's wrong?.... doesn't matter, it's what works for YOU as a player,......my advice is practice alot, ween yourself off charts, improvise, develope a good stage presence, and vocal style, and create your own style of playing thru trials and mistakes over and over again, ask questions, go see other OMB players perform and absorb what's good for you,....some of us have been playing professionally since before arrangers even were invented in the early eights,,......and then 20 years before that with out them,.....your gonna need patience and lots of love for music to achieve success,...there is NO shortcut if you want to do it right it takes years on stage experience in every situation,.... good luck to you. http://korgforums.com/
Edited by Dnj (01/01/16 09:33 AM)
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#413925 - 01/01/16 10:05 AM
Re: 1 or 2 tips/tricks of the trade to share w/ newbie
[Re: Steve A]
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Senior Member
Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
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I would advise you to get the Korg EC5 pedal. You can assign five functions to it. I have Vocal Harmony on/off, Break/fill, Intro 1 (which I use as a second break/fill), and the others for style parts. I also use the dedicated sustain pedal slot. Still have the volume/assignable slot open if I need it. Since I associate text files with my Songbook entries, I use the third assignable button, directly above the joystick, to scroll text files. It is just a matter of lifting a finger to use it. Or you could assign it to one of the foot switches. You will find the Songbook function extremely important and beneficial! I will be happy to answer any specific questions. My PA4X will arrive tomorrow, but I am quite familiar with the 3X, so it won't be much different. You can go to Korg site and download 24 sets of free styles! Not all will be useful, but you will find some gems there. The Korg forum here: http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=75&sid=3213bafb8813567c4a2fecddbaa89ac3is very useful.
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#413935 - 01/01/16 12:10 PM
Re: 1 or 2 tips/tricks of the trade to share w/ newbie
[Re: DonM]
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Registered: 02/08/08
Posts: 388
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
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I would advise you to get the Korg EC5 pedal. You can assign five functions to it. I have Vocal Harmony on/off, Break/fill, Intro 1 (which I use as a second break/fill), and the others for style parts.
I also use the dedicated sustain pedal slot. Still have the volume/assignable slot open if I need it.
Since I associate text files with my Songbook entries, I use the third assignable button, directly above the joystick, to scroll text files. It is just a matter of lifting a finger to use it.
I will be happy to answer any specific questions. My PA4X will arrive tomorrow, but I am quite familiar with the 3X, so it won't be much different.
Don, Really useful info. Exactly the kind of response I was looking for. I did get the pedal and thx for your technique usage. I printed the Manual and am reading it, but this question is meant to fill in the blanks and pick the brains of those who have gone before me. There is a wealth of knowledge here, so why not utilize it. Not looking for short-cuts, but really want to fast track my learning curve. If I can learn tricks and tips here, why not? I have been a member here for well over 5 years without owning an Arranger and only visit the arranger site.....I'd be a fool not to use such a great resource..... Gonna give you a minute to get up to speed on your Pa4X and will definitely take you up on your offer. Thanks for replying
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#413943 - 01/01/16 01:39 PM
Re: 1 or 2 tricks of the trade for newbie to Arrangers
[Re: Steve A]
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Member
Registered: 04/28/06
Posts: 807
Loc: North Texas, USA
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Steve, To answer some of your questions... -You can reduce the volume of the drum tracks to zero on one or more introductions (Intros), or the repeating parts (Variations) of the style. You can also play your own intro, and then start the style a few bars in. -I find a foot controller useful for triggering fills, change in style variations. And in other cases, change to a new preset registration (simultaneously change multiple upper voices), or apply automatic harmony notes above the lead. -Personally I always play with a split. I was never very good at two-handed piano (hence the arranger!) Although some models claim to recognize chords from two-handed playing, I imagine the results would be frustrating for someone new to arrangers. Since you are playing worship, I understand what you mean about the drums not always being appropriate, and also cessation of the style when keys are released ("Memory.") Yamaha offers what are known as "free play" styles, which address these limitations, making some of them uniquely suitable for worship. I made the following style for Korg, which is in fact a very simple "free play" style. From a recognized chord, it generates a triad on one channel and bass note on another. When used with organ and/or string voices you might find it suitable as a simple accompaniment for worship. It's also great for practicing, or for pieces that have a change in time signature partway through. http://www.synthzone.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/322331#Post322331An arranger can do AT LEAST as much as any other kind of keyboard out there. They are defined by chord recognition and real-time accompaniments in response to the played chords. The world of arrangers is one of infinite possibilities, limited only by your imagination. Welcome and enjoy!
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