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#412553 - 12/05/15 08:58 AM Re: Migrating From PSR S10 To PSR 970 [Re: DonM]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By: DonM

I'm still preferring my Korg in many ways,


please elaborate a bit more Don.... confused1

PS better drums is a good thing...;-)


Edited by Dnj (12/05/15 08:59 AM)

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#412557 - 12/05/15 11:23 AM Re: Migrating From PSR S10 To PSR 970 [Re: Bernie9]
DonM Offline
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O.K. We're not getting into sound right now. These are operational features:

The Korg takes 5-button foot switch, plus a dedicated Damper input and a programmable foot switch.
It has a full row of programmable sliders, plus three programmable buttons just above the joy stick.
It has a joystick, just above the touch strip.
It has a touch strip.
The sliders have 3 modes. One for volume controls of Style, RH 1, 2, and 3, LH, drums, Bass and MP3. Next mode is organ drawbars. Next mode the sliders are fully programmable to do whatever you want. Modes can be automatically select via Songbook or Performance, or manually selected.
It has 3 right-hand voices.
Transpose and Octave change are conveniently located.
You can see the writing. No black on black labels.
It has lots of dedicated buttons. For example Split, Mic Delay on/off, alternate VH settings, Talk . . .
It has knobs to control mic volume, VH volume, amount of effects, double.
It has a light to show you when the VH is engaged.
It has a button to turn the mic off.
It has a slider to adjust style level versus Lead voice volume.
The inputs on the back have labels on the top of the keyboard, so you can see where to plug things in without seeing the back of the keyboard.
It takes a standard AC plug. No wall wart.
It has XLR mic connector.
It has aux outputs and inputs.
It has USB slot on front, plus extra one on the back, plus one for PC.
It has nice touch screen.
It has wonderful Songbook feature. Way better than Musicfinder or Registrations on PSR. It also has Performances, Korg-speak for Registrations. I use them only to have a bevy of lead sounds instantly available, and do everything else with the Songbook. There is a dedicated button to have the Performances change the style and voice, or just the voice.
It has dual sequence/MP3 player. O.K. so I don't use that.
It has a Chord Sequencer plus extensive regular sequencer, plus audio recorder.
You can fully edit, save, replace or delete factory styles.
It has phantom power.
It has Power On setup, where everything you want is saved. When you turn it on it's ready to go.
The Key-start mode is always on! You don't have to hit that button every time you start a song that is not save in Reg.
It has a wonderful Vocal Harmonizer, as good as or better than many stand-alone units.
It has very advanced e.q. and sound enhancement features. MAXX Audio.
It has full-sized keys.
It has Aftertouch.
Every function is fully addressable via midi. Yamaha style controls require System Exclusive messages. Not needed on Korg, but it keeps me from using third party foot switch with the PSR.
I'm sure I'm leaving out some stuff.
All these things are important to me and make playing easier and more fun.
None in itself is real critical, but as a package it is formidable.
Oh, and it is not real heavy. A little heavier than PSR, maybe four pounds. I need the exercise anyway. It is the same size or maybe smaller than PSR! They fit in the same bag anyway.
There are no bad choices these days; it's just that some suit certain players better.
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#412558 - 12/05/15 11:28 AM Re: Migrating From PSR S10 To PSR 970 [Re: Bernie9]
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Don is that it? LOL.... aside from the fact it cost so much more...
so when you selling the SD970/PA3x for the PA4x?.... just sayin'?

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#412560 - 12/05/15 11:39 AM Re: Migrating From PSR S10 To PSR 970 [Re: Bernie9]
DonM Offline
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Used PA3Xs are going really cheap.
I won't be even considering PA4X until they get the bugs out. Sometime next year, if at all.
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#412563 - 12/05/15 11:47 AM Re: Migrating From PSR S10 To PSR 970 [Re: Bernie9]
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But, with all those attributes, it still doesn't even come remotely close to the PSR-S970 when it comes to sound quality and styles - at least not from what I've heard. Of course, I'm deaf as a post, so it doesn't make any difference. wink

Who knows, I may be getting a good buy on a lightly used S970.

Gary cool
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#412564 - 12/05/15 11:57 AM Re: Migrating From PSR S10 To PSR 970 [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By: DonM
Used PA3Xs are going really cheap.
I won't be even considering PA4X until they get the bugs out. Sometime next year, if at all.


So that means January 1st 2016?....lol

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#412565 - 12/05/15 11:58 AM Re: Migrating From PSR S10 To PSR 970 [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy


Who knows, I may be getting a good buy on a lightly used S970.

Gary cool


WTG Gary good move you deserve it and so does your audiences!!


Edited by Dnj (12/05/15 11:59 AM)

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#412567 - 12/05/15 12:10 PM Re: Migrating From PSR S10 To PSR 970 [Re: Bernie9]
DonM Offline
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I can send it back if I decide I don't want it, but we'll talk if it comes to that Gary.
As far as sound, the Korg sounds great. Yamaha has great guitar sounds, but it's easy to load great guitar sounds into the Korg too. In fact the acoustic guitars on board are really good. The overdriven and distorted rock guitars are good. Where Yamaha wins so big is in the classic electrics from the 50's, 60's, and that is mostly because they have set up the DSPs so well.
I've never needed a style for Korg that I haven't found, or for any other arranger in the past 10 years for that matter. There are hundreds of thousands of styles out there for Yamaha, but the vast majority or renamed, slightly edited, or versions from previous models. It would take weeks to go through them all, edit and save the ones you might possibly want.
How many styles can you use?
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#412568 - 12/05/15 12:19 PM Re: Migrating From PSR S10 To PSR 970 [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
But, with all those attributes, it still doesn't even come remotely close to the PSR-S970 when it comes to sound quality and styles - at least not from what I've heard. Of course, I'm deaf as a post, so it doesn't make any difference. wink

Who knows, I may be getting a good buy on a lightly used S970.

Gary cool


Gary, have you done a side by side comparison of the S970 and the PA3x and PA4x?
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#412569 - 12/05/15 12:22 PM Re: Migrating From PSR S10 To PSR 970 [Re: Bernie9]
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Great points, Don. And most of all the korg sounds so darn live. It all but breathes under your fingers.

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