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#403683 - 06/19/15 12:14 AM Getting bored with the Audya...
Henni Offline
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Hi,

Just like with any other arranger, the initial excitement is starting to wear off for me. With my S950, new, EXCELLENT styles can be found almost daily. The last good thing that happened to my Audya was version 2 of the Ajamsonic upgrade & that was long, long ago.

Hence, as of late the Yamaha took the place of the Audya on all gigs. I'll even sell the Audya if I can find a good buyer for it. Pity, as the Audya has so much potential - an OUTSTANDING arranger but with limited resources...

Henni
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#403686 - 06/19/15 01:56 AM Re: Getting bored with the Audya... [Re: Henni]
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Hi Henni,
You are probably the last person I expected to hear that from. A friend of mine who previously owned an Audya bought the SD7 a couple of weeks ago and very quickly sold it on. He now has the S950 and is delighted with it. He has had a T4 since it came out but seems to prefer the 950. What do you think are the pros and cons of the audya against the 950? Does your S950 have a hard drive or are you happy with the internal memory
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#403687 - 06/19/15 04:00 AM Re: Getting bored with the Audya... [Re: Henni]
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Hi,

I have only very good things to say about the Audya. It sounds more real than anything else out there. But what you buy is what you get.

Over at the PSRTutorial Forum & at the CreateSongStyles forum I find many, many new fantasdtic styles for the S950 almost daily, and this is what I like.

AJ changed all of this for awhile, but even that has sort of stopped for now except those new styles that he is selling.

So for now the S950 has all of my attention. It keeps on being "new" for me.

Regards,

Henni
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#403689 - 06/19/15 05:02 AM Re: Getting bored with the Audya... [Re: Henni]
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Hi Henni
I cant believe the title of this thread is coming from you either... But before you decide to off load the Audya, just give it a good dust off and store it well my friend, for after a few months or so after your new ventures with the PsrS950, you might return to Audya and will realised how much youve missed The Audya Sound and how unique it is.
I have multiple keyboards as you know and upon rotation, everytime its Audyas turn, by gee its always so live and refreshing, I refer to it as the "acoustic arranger" -:))
Something as simple as singing/playing over one of the unplugged styles with the live strum guitars is pretty hard to beat...
Keep well Henni
Ky

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#403699 - 06/19/15 08:46 AM Re: Getting bored with the Audya... [Re: Kytrinh]
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Originally Posted By: Kytrinh
Hi Henni
I cant believe the title of this thread is coming from you either... But before you decide to off load the Audya, just give it a good dust off and store it well my friend, for after a few months or so after your new ventures with the PsrS950, you might return to Audya and will realised how much youve missed The Audya Sound and how unique it is.
I have multiple keyboards as you know and upon rotation, everytime its Audyas turn, by gee its always so live and refreshing, I refer to it as the "acoustic arranger" -:))
Something as simple as singing/playing over one of the unplugged styles with the live strum guitars is pretty hard to beat...
Keep well Henni
Ky



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#403704 - 06/19/15 09:58 AM Re: Getting bored with the Audya... [Re: Henni]
Henni Offline
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Hi guys,

Okay, so won't get rid of it. I have nothing bad to say about it apart from what you buy is what you get. And I uploaded many thousands of converted styles for it, so I did my share.

Just today I downloaded the most stunning new styles for my Yamaha - and they keep on getting better. They need no tweaking, they work as is. Wish I could say the same for the Audya...

We have a one go three hour country Gig this weekend. I easily found ample excellent country styles for the Yamaha to do this. And they all amaze me, they are just THAT good.

Imagine if I had to prepare something similar on the Audya... For now I'm just into my S950. All I miss are those stunning human voices of the Tyros 5, although all of those styles play on my S950 too.

Cheers all,

Henni
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#403724 - 06/19/15 04:27 PM Re: Getting bored with the Audya... [Re: Henni]
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you guys got me to checking out the s950 and country sounds, check this guys guitar stuff...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUjeabtFSyE

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#403753 - 06/20/15 07:23 AM Re: Getting bored with the Audya... [Re: Henni]
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His ( steel ) guitar technique is fine.

Even though he´s playing most time "single fingered" with his left hand. ( But in some songs he shows that he ca do it with all fingers too laugh )

But the drum and accord-section is... terrible ( especially in regard to an Audya wink )
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#403756 - 06/20/15 09:11 AM Re: Getting bored with the Audya... [Re: Henni]
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I have tried unsuccessfully to replace My KETRON keyboards with Tyros 1 and 3, Korg PA1x, 2x for the past 10 years or so, I have Audya5 for several years now, frustration with lack of styles , but found myself keep coming back to KETRON sines ms50' ms100, X1, sd1pro, now audya5 because of the real live band sound. Another thing is that I play with a guitarist, and only KETRON that I'd find cut thru and remain presence in my band outing with guitarist. Love Tyros 3 sounds awesome by itself, but almost lost with the guitarist playing. I have also Korg pa900, but for styles sound, it's Audra.
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#403779 - 06/21/15 03:09 AM Re: Getting bored with the Audya... [Re: Henni]
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I have been in the same situation as Henni many times. I love digging into a new arranger and getting it ready for gigging. This holds me for a while until the novelty wears off and I think of what I like about my other four arrangers.

I have an Audya 76,Yamaha S910, Roland BK-9, and Technics KN7000. Each has it's strong points and all are more than capable of doing any job I have.

I have come back to my AJAMsonic Audya recently, with renewed fervor. Like it was mentioned, it is like coming back to an old friend. I, like Henni, am never satisfied. I am always tweaking or adding material.

The Audya is the best all around keyboard I have, and I know I am nowhere close to really knowing it and making it my own.

The fun isn't in reaching your destination, but the jouney along the way.

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#403805 - 06/21/15 12:14 PM Re: Getting bored with the Audya... [Re: Henni]
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Hennie,

What type of styles are you seeking and missing on the AUDYA (send Youtube links to the similar tunes you want to play but cannot find styles on the AUDYA for them right now)? Maybe we can put some of these on our next development program for AUDYA. It's true ... the heart of the Arranger is it's styles.

Did you get the Super Professional styles yet?

Thanks,

AJ
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#403815 - 06/21/15 11:04 PM Re: Getting bored with the Audya... [Re: Henni]
Henni Offline
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No AJ,

My last update was Ajamsonic version 2. Not to worry my friend, it's really not serious. Please note that my email has changed to buildtofly@yahoo.com I am no longer at Exxaro.

Like everyone ove here says, I'm sure I'll dig into the Audya again sometime.

Have a blessed day,

Henni
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#403831 - 06/22/15 10:54 AM Re: Getting bored with the Audya... [Re: Henni]
leezone Offline
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Registered: 06/24/08
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biggest problem with AUDYA is that editing, tweaking is nearly impossible, no micro editing

u think Ketron should really re-do the entire OS, and let us tweak as you can on my Roland G-70, or the PA3X, etc.

AUDYA sounds great out of the box, that's it
if you want new stuff, you generally have to create yourself,
except AJ's AJAMSONIC of course

we have TWD Awesome styles from UK, and Robert's kick @ss style. Wish those had continued

people create awesome styles for Audya, totally new like these:




I think what Henni is saying is that styles are EVERYWHERE for the Yamaha, thousands of them, you don't have to learn how to program, and make them yourself

i wouldn't give up overall "sound" for more styles.

my Audya moves the crowd and that's what it's all about at the end of the day



Edited by leezone (06/22/15 10:55 AM)

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#403849 - 06/22/15 02:35 PM Re: Getting bored with the Audya... [Re: Henni]
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#403924 - 06/23/15 02:04 PM Re: Getting bored with the Audya... [Re: Henni]
Henni Offline
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Hi,

I've cracked the way to make some Tyros 5 vocal styles work on my S950. Beautiful styles - AMAZING styles. (AJ, you should look into ALL Yamaha styles using human vocals - the Audya could REALLY do with these type of styles...) Now that would keep me occupied for awhile.

Off course they should sound better on the Audya, but Ketron does not provide the tools to do these kind of things...

Leezone, I've been here for awhile now. You weren't always so kindly outspoken & in favor towards the Audya. What lit your spark recently?

Cheers,

Henni
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#404039 - 06/26/15 05:36 AM Re: Getting bored with the Audya... [Re: leezone]
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I totally agree! I really need that too! Not to mention *.ins cretion software...
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#404043 - 06/26/15 06:55 AM Re: Getting bored with the Audya... [Re: Henni]
crist Offline
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That sad, don't make us case, software ins to make drum, i would like to make drum ins in gm to my liking. ketron manufacturer does not make us case is amazing.

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#404313 - 07/03/15 12:03 PM Re: Getting bored with the Audya... [Re: Henni]
Henni Offline
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Hi all,

See here what I mean. Michael Bedesem & Yamaha provide the tools to change modified styles from any older or other fabricate & model arranger into the most modern, high tech Yamaha styles. And it is SO easy!

Now, if Ketron would also do THAT...

For me it's mostly about available styles & I get bored very quickly. No manufacturer beats Yamaha in this regard!

Henni
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#404338 - 07/03/15 04:14 PM Re: Getting bored with the Audya... [Re: Henni]
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Hi,

Listen to what I mean here.

Henni
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#405116 - 07/18/15 09:49 AM Re: Getting bored with the Audya... [Re: Henni]
Henni Offline
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Here's what it is,

I've finally figured it out after spending some more time on the Audya. The Audya is for real musicians who can play for real with their right hand. All the voices are there, but you the player must use them. In return you get the most realistic backing ever.

The Yamaha is good for me because I'm more of a programmer than a real time musician. I can push buttons, play chords, use intros & endings for better effects. I can utilise all the "Wow" of an arranger, but I cannot play in real time. Hence the Yamaha is better suited for me. By merely pushing the right buttons, I can create spectacular stuff, but really it is the arranger doing it and not me.

I say again, the Audya does EVERYTHING exceptionally well that Fran describes. He would fall in love with it quickly. DonM plays guitar & other instruments on an keybed like the real thing. So he'll get the best out of the stunning voices of the Audya & the styles won't over power his playing.

So, the Audya is good for real musicians, the Yamaha also. But it has enough wow things which can be had by the simple push of a button so that someone like me can also create some stunning stuff with it.

You start off with most Yamaha intros & viola, the WOW! is there before you've even started the song. Good for me, but bad for a real musician who wants to play the intro himself as it sounds in the original song.

We do Gospel, so any intro goes as we do not imitate any specific music. I press intro in the middle of a song and WOW! again. a True musician would NEVER do that. Ketron specifically created intros in such a way that is does not effect the song to be played. Good for a real musician, but bad for me...

So, an Audya in the hands of a true musician sounds truly amazing, even spectacular. But the Yamaha in my hands, also sounds spectacular, but it's mostly the arranger doing the "wow" & not me. Hence I like busy styles as I cannot contribute anything else to it apart from the right chords.

Henni
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#406250 - 08/03/15 01:31 PM Re: Getting bored with the Audya... [Re: Henni]
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Thanks for openin' up, Heni!

It takes real balls to write down what you just did! I admire your honesty and I hope you'll enjoy more playing on the Yamaha keys... Great brand, btw... Nothing like Ketron, though, when it comes to arrangers...

Have a great life!
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#406269 - 08/03/15 07:29 PM Re: Getting bored with the Audya... [Re: Henni]
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Originally Posted By: Henni
Here's what it is,

I've finally figured it out after spending some more time on the Audya. The Audya is for real musicians who can play for real with their right hand. All the voices are there, but you the player must use them. In return you get the most realistic backing ever.

The Yamaha is good for me because I'm more of a programmer than a real time musician. I can push buttons, play chords, use intros & endings for better effects. I can utilise all the "Wow" of an arranger, but I cannot play in real time. Hence the Yamaha is better suited for me. By merely pushing the right buttons, I can create spectacular stuff, but really it is the arranger doing it and not me.

I say again, the Audya does EVERYTHING exceptionally well that Fran describes. He would fall in love with it quickly. DonM plays guitar & other instruments on an keybed like the real thing. So he'll get the best out of the stunning voices of the Audya & the styles won't over power his playing.

So, the Audya is good for real musicians, the Yamaha also. But it has enough wow things which can be had by the simple push of a button so that someone like me can also create some stunning stuff with it.

You start off with most Yamaha intros & viola, the WOW! is there before you've even started the song. Good for me, but bad for a real musician who wants to play the intro himself as it sounds in the original song.

We do Gospel, so any intro goes as we do not imitate any specific music. I press intro in the middle of a song and WOW! again. a True musician would NEVER do that. Ketron specifically created intros in such a way that is does not effect the song to be played. Good for a real musician, but bad for me...

So, an Audya in the hands of a true musician sounds truly amazing, even spectacular. But the Yamaha in my hands, also sounds spectacular, but it's mostly the arranger doing the "wow" & not me. Hence I like busy styles as I cannot contribute anything else to it apart from the right chords.

Henni




Henni, You've done a very good job explaining this. I feel exactly the same way. That's why I think the Yamahas would be best suited for me, too.
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#406278 - 08/04/15 01:13 AM Re: Getting bored with the Audya... [Re: Henni]
Henni Offline
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Now,

If only we could get the SD7 styles playing on the Audya... And I see no reason why they should not apart from the different format used for whatever reason.

Henni
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