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#402533 - 05/17/15 08:04 PM Carrying your gear
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How do you get your keyboard stands, mic stands, bag of cables etc., around from car/van to gig? I'm thinking of getting one of the small foldable trolleys just to make things a bit easier instead of doing multiple runs.

Anyone else use one of these or do you just carry them separately.

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#402534 - 05/17/15 08:54 PM Re: Carrying your gear [Re: Stein67]
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Rock n Roller. Do a search, there are lots of discussions on it here. I couldn't do what I do without it!
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#402535 - 05/17/15 09:11 PM Re: Carrying your gear [Re: Stein67]
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#402538 - 05/18/15 05:10 AM Re: Carrying your gear [Re: Stein67]
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rock n Roller for sure and I use a military style HD bag for seat and stands
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#402539 - 05/18/15 05:40 AM Re: Carrying your gear [Re: Stein67]
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Edited by rosetree (05/18/15 05:55 AM)

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#402540 - 05/18/15 06:21 AM Re: Carrying your gear [Re: Bill Lewis]
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Just found this on Ebay. A Rock n Roller and bag like this should do it for all your gear. Its a 40" bag with wheels. Good for seat, mic stands, etc. Just put in duffle bags and you'll get a lot of choices.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/251753422193?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


Edited by Bill Lewis (05/18/15 06:22 AM)
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#402541 - 05/18/15 06:22 AM Re: Carrying your gear [Re: Stein67]
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Gruvgear been out a while also... nice kart but so expensive compared to Rock-n-Roller.....
no gigging musician should be without a R&R kart.....


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Edited by Dnj (05/18/15 06:29 AM)

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#402542 - 05/18/15 07:00 AM Re: Carrying your gear [Re: Stein67]
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My modified R-10 Rock And Roller cart.

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#402545 - 05/18/15 08:46 AM Re: Carrying your gear [Re: travlin'easy]
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I Could not get by without the Rock N Roller Cart.

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#402547 - 05/18/15 12:48 PM Re: Carrying your gear [Re: hammer]
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Here's my video of loading the Rock n Roller

http://www.synthzone.com/forum/ubbthread...etup#Post378852
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#402548 - 05/18/15 12:49 PM Re: Carrying your gear [Re: PraiseTheLord]
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Originally Posted By: PraiseTheLord
Here's my video of loading the Rock n Roller

http://www.synthzone.com/forum/ubbthread...etup#Post378852



bad link???

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#402549 - 05/18/15 01:09 PM Re: Carrying your gear [Re: Stein67]
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Unfortunately, as I play many short 'gigs' on church weddings, there are quite a number of historic churches with cobblestone pavement around. It's awful to use a trolley suitcase or a cart then. Also bad for wheelchair users... Sometimes there are stairs, too. I guess there are more obstacles like that in Europe compared to North America due to the number of historic buildings.


Edited by rosetree (05/18/15 01:09 PM)

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#402558 - 05/18/15 03:40 PM Re: Carrying your gear [Re: Stein67]
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Fortunately, the Rock And Roller carts have balloon tires on the front while help on rough surfaces. There is also a stairway/curb skid feature, which can make life a bit easier when a few stairs or curb blocks the way. Nothing's perfect, but the R&R cart is about as close as it gets for OMB entertainers.

Cheers,

Gary cool
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#402646 - 05/21/15 07:14 PM Re: Carrying your gear [Re: travlin'easy]
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Link worked perfectly for me, DNJ!
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#403494 - 06/16/15 06:57 AM Re: Carrying your gear [Re: Dnj]
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It has been fun to see photos and videos of how others carry their gear. At a recent gig, I remembered to take a couple of photos of my stuff in transit.

So, here are a couple of photos of my Rock'n'Roller loaded up [img][/img] . On it are my Pack-a-Seat (seat that has storage inside), my Nano 600 bass unit, and blue gig bag. On top of those, Fusion case with Tyros5. On top of that, "stand case" holding the stands and "top speakers" for the Nano 600. The only thing not on here is my USS "A-frame" type stand. I carry the stand in my left hand, and pull the cart with my right - I can do most load-ins with a single trip (unless there are stairs etc.)

-Jim


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#403499 - 06/16/15 07:56 AM Re: Carrying your gear [Re: jimlaing]
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Originally Posted By: jimlaing
It has been fun to see photos and videos of how others carry their gear. At a recent gig, I remembered to take a couple of photos of my stuff in transit.

So, here are a couple of photos of my Rock'n'Roller loaded up [img][/img] . On it are my Pack-a-Seat (seat that has storage inside), my Nano 600 bass unit, and blue gig bag. On top of those, Fusion case with Tyros5. On top of that, "stand case" holding the stands and "top speakers" for the Nano 600. The only thing not on here is my USS "A-frame" type stand. I carry the stand in my left hand, and pull the cart with my right - I can do most load-ins with a single trip (unless there are stairs etc.)

-Jim


Jim more pics of the storage seat?...sounds interesting? thanx
R&R is the only way to gig on the go... cool2

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#403514 - 06/16/15 12:25 PM Re: Carrying your gear [Re: Dnj]
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Re: my Pac-a-Seat (seat that has storage in it) ... I bought it almost 20 years ago. Found about about this type of seat from a pedal-steel guitar player. Apparaently, this style of seat is popular among "Steelers".

Search for Pac-a-seat, Steeler's Choice, Sho-Bud, etc. and you'll find some. Here is one site. They have changed a lot since mine was made ...

http://www.steelerschoice.com/services.html

Jim
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#403518 - 06/16/15 12:43 PM Re: Carrying your gear [Re: jimlaing]
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Originally Posted By: jimlaing
Re: my Pac-a-Seat (seat that has storage in it) ... I bought it almost 20 years ago. Found about about this type of seat from a pedal-steel guitar player. Apparaently, this style of seat is popular among "Steelers".

Search for Pac-a-seat, Steeler's Choice, Sho-Bud, etc. and you'll find some. Here is one site. They have changed a lot since mine was made ...

http://www.steelerschoice.com/services.html

Jim


These seats are the koolest things I've seen in a while for a gigging musician, lots of flexibility, .. I have two concern & that is do they make ones with adjustable legs for different heights & with the added seat & backrest what does it weight loaded with wires, mics, mixers etc,? confused1

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#403522 - 06/16/15 01:09 PM Re: Carrying your gear [Re: Stein67]
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I would have those same questions DNJ, although it is a neat concept for certain situations.
I have used a drafting stool for many years. Totally adjustable in height, and it has rollers so I often use it for a dolly. I seldom take the Rock n' Roller unless I have a long way to transport things. It takes more time to take the dolly and gear out of the van, load it up, wheel it inside, etc., then find a place to park it while I work than it does to make a couple of trips. I need the exercise anyway, and none of my gear weighs more than 25 pounds.
Of course at the place where I work most of the time, I just pull up and there are several guys rushing to see who gets to carry my stuff in. A $5.00 bill still goes a long way!
If that seat had rollers and was adjustable in height, I would be interested because I would just leave it there, even when I'm not going to be there for a night or two. I could stash stuff in it that I only use there, such as small lights.
It's really expensive though!
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#403534 - 06/16/15 05:31 PM Re: Carrying your gear [Re: Stein67]
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The thing I like about my Quic Lock 749 seat is that is is full adjustable, it has a backrest, footrest and folds up flat for transportation and storage. The only thing that Donny don't like about it is the weight. It's made from welded, heavy gauge steel and tips the scales at just under 18 pounds. However, when Joe Ayala was near his top weight, he sat upon it with no problems. While the weight capacity was just 250 pounds, I modified mine, made the seat larger, added a steel plate, thicker padding and reupholstered it with heavier grade leather, which added another 5 pounds to the overall weight of the seat, but I'm sure it also increased the weight capacity quite a bit.



All the best,

Gary cool
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#403536 - 06/16/15 05:46 PM Re: Carrying your gear [Re: travlin'easy]
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Good seat but too big to carry around all the time this is always a problem for us guys
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#403537 - 06/16/15 06:08 PM Re: Carrying your gear [Re: Stein67]
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Thank you for that bit of info Gary. I'm sure I'll think of that tonight while I try to fall asleep.

Not as fat as he used to be, Joe
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#403541 - 06/16/15 07:43 PM Re: Carrying your gear [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
The thing I like about my Quic Lock 749 seat is that is is full adjustable, it has a backrest, footrest and folds up flat for transportation and storage. The only thing that Donny don't like about it is the weight. It's made from welded, heavy gauge steel and tips the scales at just under 18 pounds. However, when Joe Ayala was near his top weight, he sat upon it with no problems. While the weight capacity was just 250 pounds, I modified mine, made the seat larger, added a steel plate, thicker padding and reupholstered it with heavier grade leather, which added another 5 pounds to the overall weight of the seat, but I'm sure it also increased the weight capacity quite a bit.



All the best,

Gary cool

Nice seat BUT in my quest to travel light I stopped carrying a seat of any kind and I've used quite a few,....being I'm a very low sitter I just use what ever chairs they have at the gig with no problems...I also carry a seat pad just in case also....one less thing to haul around ...

carry on!

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#403546 - 06/16/15 09:27 PM Re: Carrying your gear [Re: Stein67]
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I'm just going to start standing up for all my jobs.
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I actually wish I could, but I use the pedals too much and have trouble feeling my feet anyway so it's not an option.
For short jobs of an hour or so, I have a folding stool that weighs about 3 pounds. I have had it for years but don't use it much. Once I made the mistake of letting my late friend HankB have it. After he died I got it back.
Damn I miss Hank.
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#403566 - 06/17/15 06:12 AM Re: Carrying your gear [Re: travlin'easy]
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I think most of the "steeler's seats" are fixed height. Probably the height that works best for playing pedal steel (although even those guys might want adjustability due to varying person-heights?!) Anyway, I tested out my steel-playing friend's seat, and it was perfect for me. At that time, I played bass pedals, and it was perfect height for me to play those (a bit higher than just playing keys). I bought my pac a seat (can't remember which maker I bought mine from) almost 20 years ago, and it has help up fine for that long, gig after gig. Mine has the original upholstery, original hardware, never a problem. I do tighten up the screws on the "piano hinge" part, every couple of years.

It can be somewhat heavy when you load it up with stuff; depends what you put in it. Mine has a mic, lots of cables, spare cables and adapters, power cords, MIDI cables, USB cables, stuff like that ... it has 4 compartments, so I can "organize" stuff a bit, too ...

-Jim
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#403571 - 06/17/15 06:42 AM Re: Carrying your gear [Re: Stein67]
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Jim no doubt its a great seat and flexible & useful piece of gear...but I would say its more suited for the "House" style player who stays put for a while at jobs vs an everyday on the road travelin' easy kind of performer as many of us are packing up and running all over day after day gig after gig...but the adjustable legs IMO is a must.

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#403581 - 06/17/15 08:34 AM Re: Carrying your gear [Re: Stein67]
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You don't have adjustable legs on those chairs you borrow when you play! smile
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#403592 - 06/17/15 11:46 AM Re: Carrying your gear [Re: Dnj]
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I guess it's a personal-preference thing ... I've used this (Pac-a-seat or "steeler's seat") for many hundreds of gigs over ~20 years, and I guess I'm just used to carrying it. Since it is "boxy" in shape, it fits nicely on the Rock'n'Roller cart (as you see in the photos I posted), and I can stack something on top of it easily.
And I've gotten used its modest weight and carrying it. As seen in my photo (a few notes back, in this thread), my Rock'n'Roller cart isn't even all that 'full' of stuff, that is, what I carry to gigs is modest (for solo gigs anyway).

It's a different story when my full band (6 pieces) is playing, but as a full band I only do less than a dozen gigs a year; most of mine are solo/duo/trio, and the Pac a Seat is something I don't mind at all "toting" from home to gig and back etc. The Nano 600 has worked great too, I only need my bigger PA on the occasional very larger or outdoor gig.

-Jim
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