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#399259 - 02/08/15 10:42 AM So What did we learn from NAMM 2015?
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#399266 - 02/08/15 01:02 PM Re: So What did we learn from NAMM 2015? [Re: Dnj]
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What did you expect to learn? It's a trade show.

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#399267 - 02/08/15 01:11 PM Re: So What did we learn from NAMM 2015? [Re: Dnj]
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Maybe that Musikmesse is more important with respect to arrangers? (to be confirmed in April...)

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#399268 - 02/08/15 01:24 PM Re: So What did we learn from NAMM 2015? [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: rosetree
Maybe that Musikmesse is more important with respect to arrangers? (to be confirmed in April...)


that's a BIG Maybe....... but I guess we'll see at things like Musikmesse the trend of the future arranger kbs ...don't be surprised if things start to change from what we know now...as the VOID of arrangers at NAMM 2015 has started...I hope not...could the "Party" be Over?......or do we stockpile what we have already. we'll see.

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#399273 - 02/08/15 02:14 PM Re: So What did we learn from NAMM 2015? [Re: Dnj]
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IIRC, Korg usually goes with Messe on arranger announcements.

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#399279 - 02/08/15 10:25 PM Re: So What did we learn from NAMM 2015? [Re: 124]
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Lessons from NAMM

-NAMM is not for the arranger market
-Innovation comes from the smaller companies
-Integration between hardware and VSTs made another step
-Analogue synths are making a comeback
-TOTL synth workstation hardware is a thing of the past for both Yamaha and Roland.
-VST software is moving forward, where the hardware is moving backward


I think those where my lessons
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#399286 - 02/09/15 05:28 AM Re: So What did we learn from NAMM 2015? [Re: Bachus]
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Lessons from NAMM

-NAMM is not for the arranger market
I think those where my lessons



Exactly,........Arrangers are on the bottom of the list instead of coming closer together with workstations , Etc, in the music communities though process.......and because of that little by little they will dwindle away and be replaces by what the people want....and NAMM 2015 is a BIG Indication of that. NO matter how much WE love arrangers it could be a losing battle in the future. Why isn't it being embraced more by pros & they realize what a powerful music tool it is? confused1
that's the big question? I personally think it's because musicians rather CREATE Music on workstations from scratch the way they want it interpreted vs playing some repetitive pre made style.....& even though you can still do that on an arranger most have no interest at all..


Edited by Dnj (02/09/15 05:31 AM)

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#399287 - 02/09/15 06:03 AM Re: So What did we learn from NAMM 2015? [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
Originally Posted By: Bachus
Lessons from NAMM

-NAMM is not for the arranger market
I think those where my lessons



Exactly,........Arrangers are on the bottom of the list instead of coming closer together with workstations , Etc, in the music communities though process.......and because of that little by little they will dwindle away and be replaces by what the people want....and NAMM 2015 is a BIG Indication of that. NO matter how much WE love arrangers it could be a losing battle in the future. Why isn't it being embraced more by pros & they realize what a powerful music tool it is? confused1
that's the big question? I personally think it's because musicians rather CREATE Music on workstations from scratch the way they want it interpreted vs playing some repetitive pre made style.....& even though you can still do that on an arranger most have no interest at all..


In the US they are non important

In EU its still a whole different story, however, its hard to get the youth into playing any actuall instrument except guitars and drums... despite the fact that for musical education at many schools they use arrangers these days.

Overhere in europe we deffinately need a charm offensive from two or three rockstars using arrangers to create music...to pull in the youth, but in general arrangers are still big buiseness and still outsell organs/synths/workstations.


Edited by Bachus (02/09/15 06:05 AM)
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#399289 - 02/09/15 06:39 AM Re: So What did we learn from NAMM 2015? [Re: Dnj]
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Arrangers seem to sell better in certain areas...here in Canada, the province of Quebec is one of the biggest markets...it is also where Yamaha sells the largest number of custom finished grand pianos.

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#399293 - 02/09/15 07:10 AM Re: So What did we learn from NAMM 2015? [Re: Dnj]
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at least I'm not alone in my thinking that's just the way it is. many players I talk to consider an arranger keyboard as a lazy man's tool. Versus a workstation.

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