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#393930 - 09/29/14 08:05 AM
New speaker system from RCF
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#393936 - 09/29/14 11:48 AM
Re: New speaker system from RCF
[Re: frankieve]
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#393960 - 09/30/14 07:44 AM
Re: New speaker system from RCF
[Re: frankieve]
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Donny, look at the specs. I think all you are seeing is the wattage, not all the other stuff. For example, the Horizontal Coverage is just 120 degrees, somewhat better than a conventional sound system, but no where near the 210 degrees Bose provides. The Bose L1 Compact has four inputs (1/4-inch, 1/8-inch stereo, RCA, XLR), not a single XLR. Check the other technical information HERE! ACOUSTICAL SPECIFICATIONS Frequency response: 45 Hz- 20 Khz Max SPL: 125 dB Horizontal coverage angle: 120° Vertical coverage angle: 30° Compression driver: 5 x 2” Ultra compact fullrange, 1.0 v.c. Woofer: 10” Woofer, 2.0” v.c. INPUT/OUTPUT SECTION Input connectors: Jack-XLR male Output connectors: XLR female Input sensitivity: -2 dBu / + 4 dBu PROCESSOR SECTION Crossover frequencies: 220 Hz Protections: Thermal, rms Limiter: soft limiter Controls: Volume, EQ, phase, xover AMPLIFIER Total Power: 400 Watt High frequencies: 100 Watt Low frequencies: 300 Watt Cooling: convection Connection: VDE connector PHYSICAL Height: 490 mm (19.29”) Width: 288 mm (11.34”) Depth: 427 mm (16.81”) Net Weight: 19.2 kg (42.32 lbs) Cabinet: Baltic birch plywood Hardware: 2 x M6 Handles: 1 top Pole mount cap yes Colour: Black
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#393970 - 09/30/14 12:36 PM
Re: New speaker system from RCF
[Re: travlin'easy]
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Donny, look at the specs. I think all you are seeing is the wattage, not all the other stuff. For example, the Horizontal Coverage is just 120 degrees, somewhat better than a conventional sound system, but no where near the 210 degrees Bose provides. The Bose L1 Compact has four inputs (1/4-inch, 1/8-inch stereo, RCA, XLR), not a single XLR. Check the other technical information HERE! ACOUSTICAL SPECIFICATIONS Frequency response: 45 Hz- 20 Khz Max SPL: 125 dB Horizontal coverage angle: 120° Vertical coverage angle: 30° Compression driver: 5 x 2” Ultra compact fullrange, 1.0 v.c. Woofer: 10” Woofer, 2.0” v.c. INPUT/OUTPUT SECTION Input connectors: Jack-XLR male Output connectors: XLR female Input sensitivity: -2 dBu / + 4 dBu PROCESSOR SECTION Crossover frequencies: 220 Hz Protections: Thermal, rms Limiter: soft limiter Controls: Volume, EQ, phase, xover AMPLIFIER Total Power: 400 Watt High frequencies: 100 Watt Low frequencies: 300 Watt Cooling: convection Connection: VDE connector PHYSICAL Height: 490 mm (19.29”) Width: 288 mm (11.34”) Depth: 427 mm (16.81”) Net Weight: 19.2 kg (42.32 lbs) Cabinet: Baltic birch plywood Hardware: 2 x M6 Handles: 1 top Pole mount cap yes Colour: Black Gary you think this RCF $1700.00+ speaker system isn't a better choice then a Bose compact? or and L1 for that matter.
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#394007 - 10/01/14 07:03 AM
Re: New speaker system from RCF
[Re: frankieve]
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There are allot of factors about speakers to consider, just because a company claims a certain spec, especially one that has no guidelines, you can't really rely on just that.
As most of us in the pro audio world can tell you, is that wattage does not matter at all. Since there are so many other factors that will determine the SPL output. a 700 watt system can be louder than a 1400 watt, and vice versa.
Also the " coverage " spec is one that makes me laugh, what exactly are they testing and these 120 or 180 or 210 degree of coverage? is it frequency response? is it the SPL of the frequency response, is it the change in frequency response and or change in spl or freq response.
Also Bose and RCF are very respected companies. RCF has been making speakers and enclosure for a very long time, and have made them for allot of other companies, including helping put Mackie and plastic speaker boxes on the map
It all comes down to simplest points,
1- does is sound good ( this is very subjective, but there is a standard of good sound ), and will it be loud enough? 2- does it sound good enough to justify what it cost? 3- will it work in the way I need it to in my type of shows and locations?
and the main question which is the most important..... Can Frank make any money selling it
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#394027 - 10/01/14 01:33 PM
Re: New speaker system from RCF
[Re: frankieve]
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Frank, when I was young, which I realize was about the same time John Paul Jones joined the Navy, the degree of coverage for speakers was measured with a portable DB meter, which is what was also used to measure falloff. I assume, that is still the technique used, which was extremely accurate at the time. If you look at the spec patterns, you can also see the degree of coverage as well. For me, it's very important, especially the job I played today. I was set up with only about 75 percent of my audience in front of me, and the remaining 25 percent were situated at tables to each side and somewhat behind me. No one had a problem hearing the music full volume using the L1 Compact. The audience size by actual count was 138 people. Having owned many, many, many sound systems, I'm confident that I could not have achieved that kind if sound distribution equality with any conventional sound system. Now, does it sound good - HELL YES! To both me and my audiences, the Bose L1 Compact sounds great. Never once had someone say it sounded distorted or muddy, which is not the case with some of my previous, high-dollar sound systems. Does it justify the cost, IMO, that's a resounding YES! I've actually paid significant more for some conventional sound systems in years past. Will it work for ME? It does exactly what I want it to do and it does it very, very well. Will it make money for Frank? I would think so. It sure makes a lot of money for me. Good luck, Gary
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